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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:17 AM
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Last week, the President "weak, needs to take command"-but yesterday he was "arrogant, patronizing"
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 07:20 AM by Empowerer
Wow . . .
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:18 AM
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1. That appears to be the BS that they are scooping out today.
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 07:19 AM by Skidmore
You've nailed it. My interpretation is that the Rs know they looked bad and all the spin in the world won't hide the fact that they don't give a rat's patootie about the sick and unwealthy.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:19 AM
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2. I'm assuming you are listening to RW assholes...
perhaps on Morning Schmoe? Count me unsurprised...
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:20 AM
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3. Tweety was doing some of this crap last night as well.
He was taking on all the pain that McCain felt yesterday.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:24 AM
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6. Figures... Tweety is bad enough, but Chuck Todd with him?
No thanks.
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:28 AM
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9. Absolutely - what's with Matthews' sudden obsession with
a President calling Members of Congress by their first names? It's a prerogative of the office that all Presidents have done when they've seen fit, especially in meetings and informal settings, which this was.

These people not only obviously cannot accept that this man is sitting at the top of the pyramid, but they feel perfectly entitled to bray about it nonstop.

I wonder why?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:37 AM
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11. Because he's a Democrat... They were similarly disdainful of Clinton
There's lots of racism out there, but the MSM has always put RETHUG Presidents on a throne, always referring to them as "the President" or "President Bush*" etc., but feeling free to refer to Presidents Clinton, Carter, Obama, as "Bill Clinton," "Carter", "Barak Obama". If they'd done the same with widdle Georgie*, the RW would have skinned them alive, but Dems don't give them the same hell, so they get by with it.

As to President Obama calling Senators by their first names... how is that less respectful than Bush* giving them all stupid nicknames?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:16 AM
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14. That was actually a brilliant ploy...
right from the gate, he set the power positions.

For sure, it is the president's privilege to call people by their names, titles or whatever, (recall bush and hsi simplistic nicknames). Once he did this, he let everyone in the room know he was the power to be reckoned with. It also set the road to amiability, calling an individual by their first name sets the stage for a more "endearing" exchange. He would have been "arrogant" if he would have just used last names, something along the order of, "now Boehner, you know that is just plain false"...that would have truly looked arrogant...:D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:09 PM
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25. Ah yes bush's nic names which were so endearing to the
whoremedia. And the gops have no room to talk about lack of respect in anything especially the office of the President.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:21 AM
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4. Maybe I'm weird, but I just LOVE it when they think he's arrogant.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:23 AM
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5. How dare he call them by their first names!!! n/t
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:25 AM
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7. Yep
I always feel patronized when someone calls me by my first name.

I have asked my partner to please show me more respect and be less patronizing and address me otherwise.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:10 AM
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13. Didn't you know...
He's supposed to give them silly nicknames, like his imbecile predecessor did. They wanted to hear, "The Oompa Loompa is out of order, and what he just said is factually incorrect." Or, "Sorry, Grandpa. We aren't campaigning any more."
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:26 AM
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8. Twisting reality to meet the propaganda
The ever changing propaganda.

Proof that no matter what Obama does, it will not be good enough.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:31 AM
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10. If I were Barack Obama yesterday, I'd be arrogant and patronizing too.
Members of the Republican Party in Congress are on record as stating they want to harm Obama's Presidency, and apparently they don't care what the cost is. If it's harmful to the American people, so be it. Party first, corporate profit second, then maybe the people if there's any time left. That's the GOP mantra.

Obama had people sitting there telling lies. Lies that they've told before. He knows the deal: they don't like him because he's black. He's a crazy liberal. (Yeah, right... :eyes: ) He knows they have a deep seated hatred of him because of the color of his skin.

You have to have a pretty thick skin to deal with that, and I think that's what he's doing. He knows they're all full of shit, and out of respect for the office he holds, he can't tell them that to their faces.

They are playing games with lives. People are dying because of the GOP blocking legislation. And they're largely responsible for this mess. They had 6 years under Bush to fix health care if they wanted to, but they were too busy starting wars, cutting deals for their cronies, and ignoring warnings about imminent terrorist attacks.

I say arrogance and a patronizing attitude are the very minimum requirements for dealing with these idiots. It's not like they're really serious about doing anything that might help others. It's all a game to them.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:19 AM
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15. While I watched, there were perhaps 50 times I would have just said...
"Look, you're full of shit. I know you're full of shit, your members here know you are full of shit, the peoiple watching know you are full of shit. Put off the talking points and speak your mind, what do you have to offer; put up, or shut up."

:D
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:07 AM
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12. It's that game from the Gingrich memo in the 90s: always use negative language; never say
anything neutral and certainly never ever say anything nice -- the Rs have been playing this way for years now

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:21 AM
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16. Yep...
those who have the IQ over that of a stick figured this out long ago...some R's are just barely getting it...;)
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:27 AM
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18. I expect 99% of the US public has never heard of, or has now completely forgotten, that memo
Winning one-to-one political conversations will involve reminding people, again and again, exactly how we got where we are
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:24 AM
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17. Sounds like you're experiencing some cognitive dissonance
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:29 AM
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19. They might as well call him what they really want to...
an uppity negro. Come on you guys, just do it.

:eyes:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:49 AM
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20. I bet there are hundreds of RW radio hate dispensers dying to say 'uppity'
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:08 AM
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21. Adolescents usually gripe about authority
My favorite is how the right & the pundits have been bashing Obama for not showing leadership. For not taking CONTROL of the HCR debate. So he graciously agrees to televise this summit - an attempt to accommodate the juvenile GOP - and they sat in there yesterday making snarky comments about how much TIME he was spending at the meeting. Implying that the Prez should be doing more important work.

I thought he controlled himself masterfully & smacked them down with class.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:19 AM
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22. Remember, the MSM is for manufacturing reality, not reporting it.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:33 PM
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26. People will recite it becasue they heard it on the news
four legs good, 2 legs bad... etc
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:02 PM
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23. Eh.
Just because you've never seen the combination doesn't mean it's impossible.

This is different from saying that Obama fits in this category.

But my dissertation advisor did. When he didn't get sufficient start-up funds at his new job, he cried. Whenever he was confronted with something unpleasant that he didn't feel in control of, he buckled. However, that didn't keep him from being absurdly controlling and demanding when it came to his students and people that he considered his inferiors, including his colleagues. Often he was most patronizing and arrogant when it came to things that he knew or should have known about and didn't do squat with for months until they were about to blow up in his face.

He was weak and needed to take command. He was arrogant and patronizing. One size idiot boy did not fit all contexts.

(And, on a separate issue, under what conditions is it acceptable to call a black man "arrogant"? Do we assume that blacks are graced with intrinsic, insurmountable humility as a genetic inheritance linked to the DNA segments involving skin color? Do we think Steele or Sowell or Clarence Thomas are arrogant, which apparently can only mean "uppity"? Or are interracial judgements on this point simply untenable because of inherent, genetic cultural differences? Otherwise, many posts seem paranoid and overly self-defensive, making defending our hero at all costs a personal and racial matter.)
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:08 PM
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24. Who was it that remarked
"If Obama walked on water to save a drowning victim, the critics would say it's because he couldn't swim"

That attitude pretty much sums up the RW talking heads right there.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:48 PM
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27. We know who is weak
trolls on the ground,trolls on the ground look like a fool with them trolls on the ground.
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:00 PM
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28. Yeah, I heard that one, too.
Makes me sick.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:10 PM
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29. Hey, I remember when Bush was Churchill
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