**** Health Care Summit: Thread #5 ****

[Clio the Leo]

Continued from here..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=197782&mesg_id=197782

And proof that Ryan is WRONG....
http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-treatment/see-the-curve-bend

[vaberella]

1. Thank you. Ryan is exhausting to the point I tuned him out. n/t

[gkhouston]

9. I tend to get silly when I watch him, as I imagine him combing Shinola into that hair. n/t

[LSK]

2. Finally someone explains the distinction between Medicare and Medicare Advantage

[LSK]

3. LOL McCain speechless as Obama agrees with him

:rofl:

[SharonRB]

8. I think someone owes someone a Coke.

:rofl:

[DevonRex]

Would that be LSK owing SharonRB a coke?

:rofl:

[SharonRB]

16. I think so.

[LSK]

24. you sure you want a can of HFCS?

:hide:

[SharonRB]

31. Lemonade would actually be better!

[Clio the Leo]

11. I wish Obama had said, "see how easy that was?"

"you said something I thought was correct, I agreed and I'm not less of a man for it ... and I think the American people will still vote for me. See? not so bad"

[Hutzpa]

30. He was perplexed

and winced with bewilderment.... wtf! he agrees with me? :rofl:

[SharonRB]

4. LOL -- McLame didn't know what to say

when POTUS said he made a good point.

:rofl:

[Clio the Leo]

5. yummmmm ...... donuts..... NT

[dennis4868]

6. Every damn time a rethug....

says "government takeover of health care" I start to lose it....what in the bills says that the government is taking anything over? It's a talking point that sounds good on the tee vee but has no truth to it.

[tallahasseedem]

7. Alright...

McCain needs to get over the damn election. He's so petulant.

[Botany]

10. he was just making stuff up

:grr:

medicare and the V.A. have a 3 cents per dollar overhead costs but the
private for profit companies have a 30 cents per dollar overhead costs.

typical shit ..... oh look big government BAD BAD BAD

[Jennicut]

12. Drug prescription bill was a mess, under Bush. Obviously.

[LSK]

13. $180B of Medicare Advantage goes to Insurance Companies

Plaster that phrase everywhere!!!!

[Jennicut]

14. +1 million!

[DevonRex]

25. Wow! Now THAT was an insurance company handout, wasn't it?

Thanks pukes!

[Jennicut]

15. Paul Ryan, STFU and let someone else talk.

[Clio the Leo]

17. take it DOWN notch Paul!

We are NOT on Springer! You're AT THE WHITE HOUSE!!!! The President of the United States is IN THE ROOM!!! You are a member of CONGRESS!!

ACT LIKE IT!!!

.... and oh yeah, Marsha .... SUCK IT! :)

(Paul Ryan kept interrupting Bacerra because he disagreed with Becerra's charictarization of what he'd said)

[SharonRB]

18. Love Becerra calling out Ryan

on his comments about the CBO. What a hypocrite!

[Botany]

35. Wolf gets to interrupt the response and then brings on somebody ....

.... to tell us what we are hearing.

:grr:

[tallahasseedem]

19. The Repugs are being very rude...

more than usual today.

[mzmolly]

20. Live link here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35523266?from=en-us_msnhp>1=43001

[LatteLibertine]

21. Ryan's just trying to spin

on behalf of his corporate masters. Anthony Weiner has it right about the Republiklans.

[dmr]

23. yup

[kjackson227]

22. Go, Javier!

[cyndensco]

33. Javier played it masterfully.

Ryan was forced to eat crow acknowledging the CBO was reliable AND the "referee was left on the table."

It is wonderful seeing the republs squirm!

[Hutzpa]

26. woohoo this is fun

ding... ding...

Xavier vs Ryan the spinster.

:rofl:

[jenmito]

28. Eddie Munster was slapped down! n/t

[quiet.american]

27. YES, RYAN - you WEASEL. You did try to discredit the CBO.

Thank you Javier for calling him out.

[Clio the Leo]

29. and here's Grassley! Should be fun! lol NT

[LSK]

34. WTF is he smoking? 0% of Medicare Advantage goes to insurance companies???

:wtf:

[crazylikafox]

37. what an idiot. He just said that the insurance companies make NOTHING on medicare advantage.

yea right

[LSK]

42. Obama was thinking WTF

:rofl:

[tallahasseedem]

32. Gupta is on...

thank heavens, I couldn't go on watching without his input.

:sarcasm:

[Botany]

45. Oh please tallahasseedem you think you should be able to hear the "stuff" ...

... without the pleasure of somebody telling you what you just heard.

As if you could think about things on your own.

[impik]

36. Obama looked at Xavier like a proud dad

[hisownpetard]

47. He did!

[madamesilverspurs]

38. Fucking Blitzer!

I don't give a damn what YOU think, let us listen to the summit, we don't need you to interpret for us. STFU!!!

Sorry for yelling, but this is unconscionable. . .


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............

[MiniMe]

154. That is why I am watching it on cspan3

[Clio the Leo]

39. i just want to point out that Boehner...

... has said NOTHING other than to say who's turn it was to speak and whine that no one told them there was a time limit on speaking

~ and that's it ~

(And neither has McConnel)

[LatteLibertine]

43. As another said

Boner's busy scheming to get a tax shelter for his tanning bed online.

[dmr]

44. and they are the leaders!

[dmr]

40. Becerra made so much sense.

[Botany]

and that is why they had to interrupt him w/ Wolf & Dr. G. telling us ...

.... what we just heard.

[LatteLibertine]

41. Ugh Grassley is like a root canal

[dmr]

48. It is painful listening to him.

[LatteLibertine]

52. He didn't bother listening

to President Obama's explanation for mandates. Guess he was reviewing and going over corporate talking points in his mind.

[LSK]

46. ASSHOLE, HOW MUCH DOES RISING INSURANCE COSTS HARM SMALL BUSINESS??

[LSK]

NOW ITS A NONCONSTITUTION MANDATE, NEVERMIND AUTO INSURANCE

SEAT BELTS, ETC ETC ETC

FUCKER

[POAS]

49. Somebody tell Grassley that

small businesses are getting swamped by health costs.

[Clio the Leo]

50. Grassley: "The high costs of this bill comes from an unconstitutional mandate!"

so the bill is expensive to the gvmnt because people are being taxed too high?

that doesn't even make any sense

[tallahasseedem]

51. Grassley=Douche

Seriously.

[DevonRex]

59. Assley is his name from now on. nt

[Clio the Leo]

53. this must be what it was like watching the Constitutional Convention...

.... only with a LOT more idiots in the room

[BeyondGeography]

54. Retire already

[LatteLibertine]

55. I hope Biden loses it on his ass :P

President Obama will like clown him in any case.

[MarjorieG]

56. Which GOP posed mandates in the 90's? Grassley?

[hisownpetard]

57. Grassley's teeth are about to shoot out.

[dmr]

65. lol He's putting me to sleep. Will stay away & watch for it now

[Bobbie Jo]

67. Good...maybe somebody can use them

Seems like a waste of perfectly good teeth to me.

[DevonRex]

71. ROFLMAO!!!! nt

[hisownpetard]

163. Her dead sister's teeth!

[RepublicanElephant]

58. did grassley just unwittingly make an argument for reconciliation? nt

[Born_A_Truman]

60. Grassley pounding table, can his shoe be far behind?

[MorningGlow]

62. Petulant old fart n/t

[tallahasseedem]

64. LOL!

He might as well...he's insufferable.

[LatteLibertine]

66. LMAO

I'm expecting McLame to lose it.

[Clio the Leo]

61. POTUS encourages everyone to grow a pair and act like adults...

... when it comes to entitlement reform.

Good luck with that sir.

[vaberella]

63. Who's the guy who called out Paul? My net is acting up...WH.gov keeps freezing on me. n/t

[LSK]

68. Xavier Becerra

[vaberella]

166. I like him. n/t

[LatteLibertine]

69. If whitehouse gov is freezing on you

try the C-SPAN 3 stream.

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_wm.aspx

Whitehouse gov was doing that to me earlier too. Now it seems fine.

[LSK]

72. had the CSPAN3 stream on solid all day

[Clio the Leo]

70. very glad to see that my Stupak fears are NOT materializing...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x196484

[LatteLibertine]

73. Did someone say Coburn bailed on the Summit?

I thought I heard that.

[MorningGlow]

76. No, just stepped out for a minute

He's back.

[SeattleGirl]

77. No, he just left the room for a few minutes.

[hisownpetard]

No, he's back

[hisownpetard]

74. Kent Conrad is scoring big-time points. So true!

[SeattleGirl]

82. Yep. We did that with our mother, and found the same thing

Conrad did: some of the meds she was on were not necessary any more, so we got that all straightened out. It's a good thing to do.

[SharonRB]

75. Boehner speaks...

[LatteLibertine]

Ruh roh

Here we go, talking points extraordinaire. Utter waste of time to listen to this corporate puppet.

[hisownpetard]

91. Why do I keep hearing the Coppertone commercial in my ear?

[Moosepoop]

123. Because just like the Coppertone girl....

he's showing his ass. ;)

[polichick]

78. Oh boy - here's boner!

[LSK]

79. Boner's hangover must be easing, now he speaks

:rofl:

[LSK]

92. fucking idiot is full of talking points and pandering

fuck you asshole

[Jennicut]

80. Boner is finally speaking. He has a slight lisp. Why did I never notice before?

[Blaukraut]

81. Oh shit, Boehner is gracing us with his pearls of wisdom now n/t

[tallahasseedem]

83. Oh lord...

Boner is back on the scrapping the health care bill again.

[SeattleGirl]

We do NOT have the best healthcare system in the world, you idiot!

We're #32. Yay us. :eyes:

[Bobbie Jo]

84. Scrap this, Boner.

Damn fool.

[quiet.american]

I don't recall Boehner criss-crossing the nation to listen to the will of the American people.

The fucker's filibustering.

[gateley]

85. Is my sound cutting out or does Boehner keep burping? nt

[flpoljunkie]

95. The sound has been cutting out for some time now on CNN. It's annoying.

[gateley]

127. C-Span 3, too. nt

[flpoljunkie]

159. Sadly, I do not get C-Span3.

[hisownpetard]

99. He sounds like Foster Brooks!

[gateley]

Bwah! Exactly!! nt

[hisownpetard]

146. Didn't know if anyone else remembers him. Hahahaa!

[tallahasseedem]

103. Be nice

he had some drinks during lunch. LOL!

[dmr]

86. Conrad is making a very important point about prescription meds

[RepublicanElephant]

87. somebody put some stupid in boner's drink. nt

[MorningGlow]

88. "best health care system in the world"??

:wtf:

[dennis4868]

I wish I had health insurance.....

[GoCubsGo]

108. In whose universe, orange guy?

My health care system is "pray I don't get sick or injured." If that's the "best in the world", I pity the rest of the world. Have I told you lately how much I hate these people. (And, I use the term "people" loosely with these vermin.)

[Writer]

89. Wow. Watch Boehner grandstand.

What a douche.

[Jennicut]

90. "We have the best health care system in the world". Yeah, for whom?

A dangerous experiment would be letting people die for lack of care. Duh.

[LatteLibertine]

101. Sure we do

if you're among the most wealthy 1-10%.

[tallahasseedem]

93. "Dangerous experiment"

I was wondering when he'd pop up with the talking points.

[LatteLibertine]

94. Yay insurance industry talking points

Thanks Boner, you corporate sock puppet.

[Blaukraut]

96. Fitting in all the talking points and pounding the 2k prop

Yeah, go Boehner! Looks like they saved him til the end so people will remember his nasty-ass yammering over everything else.

[BeyondGeography]

97. The best health care system in the world?

In terms of what? Infant mortality? Life expectancy? Obesity? Diabetes rates?

[LatteLibertine]

110. If you're Boner, it's great.

[LSK]

98. Obama please put this fool in his place n/t

[Clio the Leo]

100. Boehner: more bill fondeling....

... like Cantor did. (I wonder how long it took them to come up with that scheme.)

[quiet.american]

102. Man-Tan is filibustering. Trying to hog it with absolute nonsense. nt

[crazylikafox]

104. Nice way to end. Boner is making the case now for Reconciliation.

[Arkana]

105. Obama "Is this guy kidding?"

[Jennicut]

106. Boner, get rid of your insurance and go out there and see what the real world lives like.

Creepy orange idiot.

[SeattleGirl]

107. Yes, Boner, you COULD go on and on and on, and you

probably will.

My advice is that you STFU!

[GoCubsGo]

119. Thank goodness for the 'mute' button.

If not for that, I would be vomiting in disgust right now.

[Clio the Leo]

109. I think I spoke too soon about Stupak...

.... Boehner bringing up tax payer funding of abortions now.

[LSK]

111. establishing basics of coverage is not designing healthcare plans

God this guy makes my blood boil.

[tallahasseedem]

112. Abortion...

he is really throwing ALL of the talking points out.

[RepublicanElephant]

113. "i'll drink to that!" nt

[Blaukraut]

114. he went there - taxpayer funded abortion in the bill. Lying prick n/t

[SharonRB]

115. Screw you, Boehner

[SeattleGirl]

116. We're NOT going to start with a clean piece of paper, you idiot!

[MorningGlow]

117. LOL Obama while Boner's speaking

Rubbing the bridge of his nose, closing his eyes. "Damn this guy's an ass..."

[SeattleGirl]

122. I know! LOL!

[polichick]

129. That was pretty funny!

[LatteLibertine]

118. I hope President Obama breaks it off in his ass

[DangerousRhythm]

120. Wow, instant eyeroll from me. I JUST tuned in and in that second, there's BONER...

and he's talking about abortions. UGH.

[polichick]

121. Boner is just a fearful twit. nt

[Clio the Leo]

124. lol, yall get the impresson that Boehner and Obama cant stand one another?

They have barely LOOKED at one another the whole time.

[MorningGlow]

142. Totally

Obama was NOT looking at him, but he's attentively watched everyone else who's spoken.

[quiet.american]

125. I rarely call someone a fucker, but Boehner is a lazy, no-nothing fucker. Showed up empty-handed.

Contributing absolute bullshit. Okay, you have your campaign commercial, Boehner.

[Blaukraut]

145. He didn't show up empty-handed. He lugged a really heavy prop

to the meeting. You gotta give him credit for that.

[Arkana]

126. THAT'S BULLSHIT, BONER!

YOU'VE BEEN CALLING HIM NAMES AT YOUR COZY LITTLE WHITE-BREAD GOP CONFERENCES SINCE HE WAS SWORN IN, YOU ASSHOLE!

[hisownpetard]

128. Obama and Sibelius look like they want to vomit.

[GoCubsGo]

135. I know how they feel.

[Botany]

130. Oh Boner .... as a citizen of Ohio I want to apologize

Federal Mandate / Entitlement Program (Boner)= Helping The American People (Obama)


Goddamn it do you want to help people or for profit insurance companies?

[quiet.american]

131. Obama: Go back to sitting at the kiddie table, Boehner. The adults are talking. nt

[BeyondGeography]

132. Barack: John, you ignorant slut.

[SeattleGirl]

137. ROFL!

:rofl:

[tallahasseedem]

133. Obama is seriously pissed...

you can see it.

[quiet.american]

141. Yep, and I'm glad to see it, cause Lord knows, Boehner deserves it. nt

[rufus dog]

134. HA!

Let me interpret for you John.

Shut the fuck up you petulant little puke.

[Bobbie Jo]

136. Obama to Boner....YOU LIE!

of course more eloquently.

[RepublicanElephant]

144. lol! nt

[LSK]

138. Obama to Boner, thats not the current topic, we are talking about deficits

[Phx_Dem]

139. I think the Pres just called Boehner a liar, in his nice way.

"What you said it just not true."

lol

[POAS]

153. Obama to Boner--

:spank:

[NYC_SKP]

140. Fuck Boehner, best HC system my aching pimpled hairy ass. You fuck, you.

Fuckster.

Rat Bastard.

[Botany]

149. Well 37th in the world and the most expensive

W.H.O. Rankings

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway

.....

35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
39 Cuba
40 Brunei

[LatteLibertine]

143. I'm glad President Obama is too cool to let Boner

dictate the narrative.

[Clio the Leo]

147. "POTUS just very politely told Rep. Boehner he was out of order..."

POTUS just very politely told Rep. Boehner he was out of order and will deal with him at the end of the #HCR summit.

http://twitter.com/bazmaniandevil/status/9642065579

[MorningGlow]

150. Schweet

Boner needs some serious :spank:

[Arkana]

158. *Cracks knuckles* "My associate Igor and I vill deal vith you...later."

[Clio the Leo]

148. Rep Cooper to the GOP, "If you love medicare, you need to act to save it, FAST!" NT

[Jennicut]

160. He was good. They don't really care, do they?

[LatteLibertine]

151. Republicans put the fun in fundamental

[hisownpetard]

152. Boehner wanted to get on and off as fast as possible, before Obama pwned him.

[LatteLibertine]

155. McLame!!!

Someone kill me :P Gah!

[Clio the Leo]

156. and on we go to thread #6....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=198371&mesg_id=198371

[polichick]

157. WAH - we want to start over!!!!! (Don't they get it - that's not happenin'.)

[hisownpetard]

161. UGH - McCain's tiny little pointy fingers!

[quiet.american]

162. Dick Durbin was amazing. Yes, 'Pubs, if you don't like your gov't health insurance, drop it.

But why say no one else is entitled to it?

[MiniMe]

164. That's my President

To Barasso: Would you be satisfied with catastrophic health care? Bareass says yes I would. Then the President says would you say the same thing if you made $40,000 per year?

[tabatha]

165. They don't have points

so now the ad hominem attacks start.