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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:00 PM Original message |
Ezra Klein: The Public Option. A Failure of White House Leadership. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. The best commentary on this issue I have seen yet. K & R |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. My sentiments exactly. This should put some of the more fantastic speculations to rest. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. he achieved a sort of clarity that should ring bells in the Oval Office. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. These guys in the M$M will say anything |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Klein has been pretty supportive of the WH, overall, as I recall. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I'm sure he has, after all we wouldn't read him if he was out and out in opposition |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. He's never been a great fan of the public option. n/t |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. That's not really what the piece is about. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Yes. In fact, he's been a booster favorite on this board. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. They love him until he utters a word of criticism. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. Frankly, this played out perfectly, |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:11 PM Original message |
Will they pass some 'token' covering 2% or Medicare Part E for Everyone? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Another completely ludicrous post from you |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Another bitter post from you. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Man oh man, this is some righteous clarifyin' goin' on here!!! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
6. I agree - it's called "covering one's ass" and it ain't leadership. nt |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Feels like triangulation |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Klein seems to think it is mostly just incompetence. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Too many clintonistas |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. This gang is far less competent, I fear, even than the first-term Clintonistas. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. that is rubbish, how many HCR bills did the Clintonistas pass? |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. How many has this one passed? |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. 2. One in the house and one in the Senate. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. No final bill as of yet. And they had 60 votes. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. He also explained in the post preceding it the problem with reviving the PO: |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Klein seems to have a pretty subtle grasp of the political culture that is in play right now. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I just posted a separate thread on that Klein post. It really helps to understand the dynamics of |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Right. I went in and rec'd it. |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I do respect Rockefeller for being honest about it |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Right. It's gotten beyond ridiculous. nt. |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Excellent - So Good to See the Truth Written At Long Last |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. I don't get it. Why does Klein believe that reconciliation |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. It's because certain deals and expectations have already been established. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. I've never been optimistic about the PO, at least not since "Sliver"-Gate. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
33. Look at Obama's campaign rhetoric. By his own standards |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
34. Gibbs' statement today proves that Obama opposes the public option. |
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