Marc Theissen on CSpan...this asshole is a sadist...

[rasputin1952]

So I'm sitting here trying to clean out my keyboard, and this POS Theissen comes on talking about torture, and what, "a good thing it is". "Waterboarding is not torture", was his theme, and as he discussed this, he was actually grinning while describing the "benefits" of the procedure.

Now I'm not a psychiatrist, and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night, but I know some things about how human beings act in certain situations...it doesn't take a PhD to see that this clown was actually enjoying his discussion on harming others. The sadism was so apparent, that I am surprised the everyone in the room with Theissen didn't move away from him...it was that obvious.

THe "talking points" were a boilerplate R crapfest, about how we were "saved" after 9-11 by torturing individuals. This man, (and I use the term "man" very loosely), should have to undergo "sessions" as he described...I'm willing to bet he'd confess to killing Santa Claus by beating him to death with the Easter Bunny.

I just had to vent...this disgusting subhuman piece of shit should just burst into flames and if there is a hell, he should be the next kindling for it's fires.

I am appalled that this miserable excuse for a human being even exists, much less be given a platform for his vile crap.

I pity this piece of crap of I ever come across him, I will not assault him physically, but the verbal tirade from me would melt him into the asphalt...God I'm pissed. He's a blemish on humanity.

Jesus...how can anyone grin while talking about torture?...:wtf:

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

1. They have revealed more than once that torture is the actual priority

When given a choice between security and torture they always opt for torture.

Yes, it really is all some psycho-sexual empowerment fantasy.

As was the similarly 'serious-minded' desire to start a nuclear war with the USSR circa 1962.

[rasputin1952]

3. It was so vile...

I just cannot believe that any aspect of humanity can possibly side with this clown.

I can't recall when I've been so ticked off at a guest on CSPAN...usually, I can stomach the R aspect...but to see this big headed bastard sitting there just about to burst out laughing while talking about his...actually made me ashamed to be a human...:grr:

[roguevalley]

22. I think they keep the tapes to jerk off to. Seriously. I think they get a

sexual high from it or from being able to order it. What a buncha sadists.

[90-percent]

2. Righties

The entire water-boarding is good meme has been repeatedly debunked over the last five years. By professional interrogators from the FBi, amongst other security professionals.

Some "terrorists" imprisoned by America were water boarded between 100 and 200 times (I forget the exact number, like 153 and 187 or something.)

If water-boarding is so damn great how come they had to do it so many times?

Does this mean they got good intel one out of fifty times? Or was the subject only giving them one letter per word with each session so it took 153 times to get a complete sentence?

They just keep repeating their ignorant OPINIONS over and over and over until they somehow get transformed into CONVENTIONAL WISDOM after a while.

The USA executed Japanese military that got convicted of water boarding American prisoners after WW2. This Theissen creep is advocating an act of treason (waterboarding) as a wonderful effective aid to intelligence when the scientific data suggest it does nothing of the sort. These guys get their world view from the TV show 24! It's too bad their didn't get their philosophies from the Sarah Silverman program instead! The entire world would be a lot better off!

-90% Jimmy

[rasputin1952]

4. It was so disgusting to watch...

I tried to get on CSPAN...but in a way, I'm kind of glad I didn't... O8)

I was seething, and it's not a good way to be in a situation lke that...;)

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

5. Was he rubbing his nipples as he spoke?.... Just sayin' nt

[rasputin1952]

9. ...

:rofl:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

19. Sorry about that visual. nt

[eleny]

11. LOL!!!!!!!!

[ensho]

6. he is snake cheney's creepy puppet

he should be in a prison

[PBS Poll-435]

8. Agreed on both points

What a waste of oxygen.

[TankLV]

7. Too bad abortion WASN'T illegal in the PI...

Looks like the world would have been better off WITHOUT this piece of shit...

[rasputin1952]

13. He should be tried as a war criminal...

he was horrific...:mad:

[eleny]

10. People who talk like that are anarchists, too

Torture is against international law. Trying to tear down carefully crafted laws based on decency and humanity is just plain anarchy, imo.

Sounds like it was a very creepy segment at C-Span.

[rasputin1952]

12. It was horrific...

to see the "glee" when he talked about this was reminiscent of watching some nazi war criminal during the Nuremberg trials...:grr:

[Cha]

14. The washed post is obviously very proud..

too bad America's "media" has been taken over by the "official party line".

[rasputin1952]

16. While watching him...

I was reminded of reading about nazi atrocities. In order to find out, "how much pain a person could endure" a thermometer was inserted into the urethra, then the penis was placed on a metal table and hit with a mallet, breaking the glass inside...the poor soul was then force-fed water until near bursting...virtually all of those who went through this died from the pain involved...not just "passing out" or going into a coma, but literally died.

I figure if Theissen ever read about that...he'd ejaculate like a pent up boar.

The evil is beyond description.

[Cha]

15. "..these successes have come without torture"

"TOP TALIBAN MILITARY COMMANDER CAPTURED.... Even the most rabid Republican partisans should find it difficult to disparage a success story of this magnitude.

The Taliban's top military commander was captured several days ago in Karachi, Pakistan, in a secret joint operation by Pakistani and American intelligence forces, according to American government officials.

The commander, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, is an Afghan described by American officials as the most significant Taliban figure to be detained since the American-led war in Afghanistan started more than eight years ago. He ranks second in influence only to Mullah Muhammad Omar, the Taliban's founder and a close associate of Osama bin Laden before the Sept. 11 attacks.

Mullah Baradar has been in Pakistani custody for several days, with American and Pakistani intelligence officials both taking part in interrogations, according to the officials.

It was unclear whether he was talking, but the officials said his capture had provided a window into the Taliban and could lead to other senior officials. Most immediately, they hope he will provide the whereabouts of Mullah Omar, the one-eyed cleric who is the group's spiritual leader.

A former CIA official who led the Obama administration's Afghanistan and Pakistan policy review last year told the NYT that Baradar's capture has the capacity to cripple the Taliban's military operations.

Nearly as important is the shift in Pakistan's approach to the American efforts to combat the Taliban. Not only did Pakistan's intelligence service play a key role in Baradar's capture, but U.S. officials believe senior military leaders in Pakistan "have begun to distance themselves from the Taliban," and have "gradually come around to the view that they can no longer support the Taliban in Afghanistan."

The former CIA official said the successful raid constituted a "sea change in Pakistani behavior."

Spencer Ackerman, who explained the strategic importance of not torturing Baradar, added, "Boy, that Barack Obama sure doesn't know how to deal with terrorism, huh?"

That isn't partisan chest-thumping; it's just reality. Baradar's capture comes just two weeks after U.S. forces took out Hakimullah Mehsud, the leader of the Pakistani Taliban and extremist with close ties to al Qaeda. In August, Baitullah Mehsud was killed. In September, U.S. forces took out Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, the ringleader of a Qaeda cell in Kenya and one of the most wanted Islamic militants in Africa.

And Republican whining notwithstanding, these successes have come without torture, with civilian trials on U.S. soil for suspected terrorists, and while attempting to close the detention facility at Gitmo.

When it comes to the domestic political divide, only one side inspires confidence on national security and foreign policy, and I'll give you a hint: it's not the Republican Party."

—Steve Benen 8:00 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (24)
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

[rasputin1952]

17. And this speaks volumes...

"...I'll give you a hint: it's not the Republican Party."



Stone Age miscreants trying to scare people, all of the time, in any way they can...knuckle-dragging oafs...:grr:

[Cha]

18. We'll never leave the Age of Ignorance

behind with republicons given air time on corporate tv.

[Cha]

20. "I still find it hard believe the Wash Post hired marc thiessen"

<Steve Benen Again>
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

"Von Hoffmann Award Nominee"~Andrew Sullivan~

"Washington Post Confirms We Are No Longer Capturing & Interrogating High-Value Terrorists," - Marc Thiessen, the day before news broke of the capture and interrogation of the top Taliban commander.

By 'interrogate', of course, Thiessen means torture, as understood by every legal authority in this country and the world before John Yoo's brilliance transformed the legal field. It is this kind of mediocrity, Orwellian newspeak - as well as brazen support of war crimes - that must have led Fred Hiatt to give him a weekly column in the fast-imploding Washington Post."


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/02/von-hoffmann.html

"The Von Hoffmann Award This award is given for stunningly wrong political, social and cultural predictions."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/awards.html

<snip>

"CIA Historian Rips Marc Thiessen, Says He’s Got CIA/Torture History Wrong"

"As you know, former Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen has carved out a mini-industry as a leading defender of the Bush-Cheney torture program, arguing that it may have been the greatest triumph in the history of the CIA and that Obama has put us in grave danger by dismantling it.

Guess who disagrees with Thiessen: A leading CIA historian and longtime Pulitzer-Prize winning national-security reporter.

I checked in with Tim Weiner, the author of a history of the CIA called “Legacy of Ashes,” and he tore into Thiessen’s interpretation of history, saying Thiessen has it all wrong.

Thiessen made a splash last week by saying that the interrogation program may have been the “single most successful and important intelligence program” in “the history of the CIA.” Thiessen even argued that the Obama approach to terrorism — supposedly in use in the 1990s — helped bring about 9/11. He’s made variants of this case far and wide.

But it just isn’t so, says Weiner."

<more>
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/torture/cia-historian-rips-marc-thiessen-says-hes-got-ciatorture-history-wrong/

[rasputin1952]

21. Loolks like the Afghan's and the Army showed him...

:D

Thiessen will "justify" his lust for inflicting pain in some manner; sadists always do.

Theissen and his ilk live in a world of their own, a dark and hostile world; light rarely enters and tis world, and when it does, the reigning notion is to stomp it out before it gains any foothold. Like all tyrants, those who were with the bush administration will spend the rest of their lives shouting about ow they protected from evil, while never realizing their own evil...they are monsters.

[Cha]

23. I liked what Andrew Sullivan said

about the "fast-imploding Wash Post"..looks like fred hiatt is helping it along instead of trying to stop the bleeding.

Imagine some former owners and editors would be spinning their graves?

[Blue_Tires]

24. 9-11 just drove some people into the darkest of places mentally

because i never thought the day would come where americans would go on TV and actually DEFEND torture...A decade or so ago, even most conservatives would say "America is supposed to be better than that" or something...

[rasputin1952]

25. I never thought so either...

systematic torture, we never felt we would have to deal with something that despicable.

[Raine1967]

26. He was just hired to write column for WaPo

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/02/from-froomkin-to-thiessen.html

From Froomkin To Thiessen

There was only one regular opinion writer at the Washington Post who strongly and consistently opposed and exposed the torture policies and war crimes of the Bush-Cheney administration, Dan Froomkin. He was not on the op-ed page, which prominently features Charles Krauthammer, the intellectual architect of the descent of the US into the torture methods of the Gestapo, Khmer Rouge and Inquisition.
<...>
If you ever believed for a minute that Dan was fired for anything but challenging the Krauthammer line on torture, think again.

[invictus]

27. +1