Amen to John Cole - This Absolutely needed to be said

[TheBigotBasher]

(edited for copyright purposes-proud patriot Moderator Democratic Underground)

I’m new to this whole party, so I haven’t quite figured out the whole history of all the infighting yet, but I have to tell you that there are a number of people like me who worked their ass off last year trying to get Obama elected, and who would still crawl over glass to get him elected again. We are just sick and tired of the unending negativity in some quarters and tired of being told that we are vastly outnumbered by the disaffected (but loudest) few, when polls show Obama with up to 90% of liberal support. So help me God I will curbjaw the next person who savages Obama on Fox and then has the balls to use the “Overton window” as a defense. I’m sick and tired of people writing pieces flaying the administration alive and then saying “but I only wish the best for the admin.” I’m sick and tired of people looking at the HCR bill and picking out only the things they dislike, ignoring all the positive aspects that make folks like Feingold and Sanders willing to vote for it- but that isn’t good enough for our progressive betters on the blogs and in the media.

I’m sick and tired on the focus on Rahm, because it weakens the President for his alleged allies to constantly act as if Rahm is really running the show. Everything you think has happened because of Rahm, Obama had to sign off on it.


So I tend to act in a volatile manner when I see unsupported assertions. Maybe we have carved out our little Obot sanctuary here. Or maybe we have carved out a place where we remember all the good things that have happened in the past year, on top of the failings. And yes, there have been lots of failings.

But right now-I just don’t trust the beltway progressives any more than the beltway Republicans, even though on a lot of issues I think the progressive activists are probably right about policy. What I see going on are the same hysterical types of responses to everything that we get from Republicans, only the position on the issues has changed.

And I’m rambling

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[jgraz]

1. Really? We're not past the pony bullshit yet?

Please, if you want to shit on the people who got Obama elected, find a more original way to do it.

[ProSense]

2. "Please, if you want to shit on the people who got Obama elected," Yeah,

better to pretend that there aren't people who got Obama elected who aren't obsessed with Rahm. Even better still, stick with the unoriginal attack on Rahm as a way to "shit" on the President.

[Skittles]

5. Rahm isn't even in the equation for many folk

he's just extra shit

[ProSense]

9. Like I said

"stick with the unoriginal attack on Rahm as a way to "shit" on the President."

The purpose of the attacks on Rahm are clear.

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[Skittles]

3. it's getting old, isn't it?

the defensive tone speaks for itself - he doth protest too much

[TheBigotBasher]

6. He is not shitting on those who work to get Democratic candidates elected.

He is shitting on those who are helping to push America back to a much more extreme right wing Republican Party, because he has not delivered the end to a 30 year Republican hegemony in one year.

This political battle is also a battle of ideas to replace the ideas that lasted 30 years, backed up by a capital and housing bubble that left many, across the World, not just in America, impoverished.

[jgraz]

10. And the number of hours you've put in working to get Democrats elected would be...?

We'll wait while you figure out a graceful way to count to zero.

[mkultra]

24. it would be (yourTime)+ infinity x 2

[girl gone mad]

4. ...

[Skittles]

7. GET WITH THE PROGRAM GIRL

you'll take more war, crappy healthcare reform and BIPARTISANSHIP and fucking LIKE IT

[MannyGoldstein]

8. I Don't Want A Pony.

I do want Obama to live up to his promises. You should too.

[Dinger]

11. Novel Idea Manny

:thumbsup:

[TheBigotBasher]

12. The Democratic Party seems to love to shoot itself in the foot.

From the "blue dog" Democratic Senators ho seem to find great joy in dismantling the very platform that they were elected to deliver, to those on here and other blogs who want to blame the President for every single thing that goes wrong, without ever pushing the positive.

I not only want Obama to live up to his promises, which in the main HE IS, I want Democratic members of Congress to deliver. I do not want divisions to hand a very fragile and broken World back to a far more extreme Republican Party.

The Democratic Party has no reason to sleep walk to defeat. No reason at all.

[MannyGoldstein]

16. I Don't Agree That He's Living Up To His Promises

Obama's done a tremendous job of protecting banker bonuses - pledging $14 Trillion to back them - but he put in about 5% of that to help the rest of us, less than half of what Krugman, Stiglitz, and other reputable economists said was needed to keep unemployment below 10%. Then when unemployment went above 10%, he said (via Biden) that "nobody" expected it to happen. Which was not true.

Obama repeatedly campaigned on a public option for health care (which itself is a bad compromise with the Far Right. Now he has the audacity to claim that he never campaigned on the public option. This is not true.

Obama said he'd end DADT as soon as he got into office. He did not. Suddenly, after Scott Brown won his Senate Seat, Obama's representatives said they'd study it for a year.

Obama has ignored or abetted warrentless wiretapping, war crimes, imprisonment without judicial oversight, outsourced torture (extraordinary rendition) and endless war. The day after he pledged we'd withdraw from Afghanistan in 2011, his Secretaries of State and Defense went on the air saying that just a handful of troops would be withdrawn that year. We're in Afghanistan for many, many years.

[firedupdem]

13. K&R

I ignore the craziness. Most people that voted for Obama are still 100% in his corner. We need this administration to succeed or else we're done for another 8 yrs or so. Not one Democrat I know is ready to throw in the towel. The one's screeching the loudest have never, ever supported this president. Their opinions mean zilch. When you can't find not one positive thing to say about anything this administration has done...something is definitely wrong.

[BlueIdaho]

14. Rule number one.

NEVER confuse DU for the real world, its not.

[Number23]

15. I kicked and rec'd the other thread on this, and I'm kicking and rec'ing this one too!

:hi:

[HopeOverFear]

17. John Cole is THE MAN!

He's one of my favorite bloggers.

[Prism]

19. Interesting anti-LGBT motif here. More of the same, though.

John Cole is, of course, a conservative. Naturally, his concern about movement on LGBT issues is fairly non-existent.

In fact, this conservative's blithe dismissal of LGBT concerns matches pretty evenly with a lot of posters on DU.

No wonder this post of his is proving so popular. Not that it is surprising in the least.

A little bit of a disconnect there with the OP's posting name and Cole's attitudes.

But, we're well past first principles, I think.

Blue shirt, go team.

[freddie mertz]

20. Mr. Cole seems to have a long-running issue with LGBT "complainers"

All of which fits in with the usual "pony" routine.

Not to be saved.

[Phx_Dem]

21. Keep "rambling" dude. You sound good to me!

[mkultra]

22. Hell yeah, any "progressive" that spouts destructive

criticism and claims its constructive could probably learn a lot from a good curbjaw. The rest of us are rowing our asses off.