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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:30 PM Original message |
Two wars and a double dip recession should dictate less glitz. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think given the times we are living in |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Maybe they should just move |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I don't think that is what the OP was saying at all. |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
159. yeah such bastards. but of course if they did what you say |
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bikingaz (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #159 |
239. don't forget the $ 140 million spent on the inauguration |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #239 |
245. Nice right-wing talking point |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #239 |
250. thanks for the input freep. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. My father is a preacher..... |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Being a good host does not mean being ostentatious. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. I appreciate your story... |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. oh cripes. get serious. please. |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. I disagree |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. Maybe they should have had a BBQ at a Texas Ranch |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Why not? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Because that was bush's stupid |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. The same stuff is going down. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. That's your fucking bullshit answer |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Well I thought it was an appropriate answer |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You make your own shit. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. I sure |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
121. As you say from your big shit pile. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #121 |
251. don't bother. you can't change the Failer's minds. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. There's no pleasing this crop of serial whiners. |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. You're |
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Lilyeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. You hit the nail on the head |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. The Obamas have clean underwear! Ostentatious! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
70. Yeah, what's up with that? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
201. There are DU'ers not happy with Obama because... |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #201 |
217. Oh, I know there are, |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. "Putting on airs"? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
118. Let's just take them to the local McDonalds |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. Is there a source for this |
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left coaster (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Source? |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. the designer himself told of the process on CNN last night |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
73. And, that upsets you..too bad. And, too bad |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
116. No one said. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. You forgot to post the link from this obvious RW opinion peice... |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Even if it is a RW opinion piece the critique holds. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. First of all, the OP says that we're in a double-dip recession. Really? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Wrong. I do know. |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Every single |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I am aware they to not have a vacation home. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. The ONE vacation you cite as proof the Obamas don't care about |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Why does it have to be so ostentatious? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. You must be kidding. They're the FIRST FAMILY and they have money thanks to |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. wait |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. So you think they couldn't afford to pay for their vacation? How do YOU think they made |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. You really take things to extremes. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. You didn't answer how you think they got the money to pay for their vacation. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #95 |
125. I have no idea and I did not raise that point. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #125 |
132. Oh, that was your board buddy. You stepped into the convo. and she didn't answer. n/t |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
188. You are so entertaining to watch. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #188 |
225. Really? |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
181. They didn't pay shit |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #181 |
226. Really? Then that's GREAT! They did NOT "spend to the max" as the poster said. |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Yes |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Nope. |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. You're wrong |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I never said that Obama should do without security. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
236. And Michelle was criticized for wearing a cardigan to meet the queen-- |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. Do you have proof of them "spending to the max be it on vacations, or in the White House"? TIA. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
249. ok, i will. you're delusional. |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
17. I disagree |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Thank you, prole! How nice that you brought |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Well so long as the designer is happy |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
131. You have no evidence whatsoever of child labor being involved |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
195. I think it is a logical question given the number of people working on |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #195 |
220. There are no facts |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
143. Baseless speculation |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #143 |
197. Perhaps. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #28 |
256. What brand of sneakers do you wear? |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. of course they are thrilled |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #35 |
253. Only the embroidery |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
237. And of course they will also end up with more business from having dressed the |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. I want glitz and glamour and to show the world that we're capable of pulling off a |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Oh fa crissake....like that is an important issue? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Er...isn't he working on that? Or have I been hallucinating all these months? |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. maybe this is a class thing or an era thing |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
120. I didn't see it as "ostentation". I saw it as expected, customary finery at a formal event. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. No one was suggesting they put on a scrunchy and serve up mac n cheese, |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #127 |
147. Tone things down--like how? Off the rack dress rather than a designer? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. Oh horrors! How could they?! Please God don't say off-the-rack!!! |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #150 |
154. ??--most First Ladies have designer gowns for formal events. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Never said that she should go to Dress Barn. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. LOL--I see that you don't have a real point. You just want to bitch about the Obamas. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. You didn't answer my question. |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #150 |
158. She buys off the rack |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
141. It wasn't "ostentatious" and your |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Ahh well... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
135. Well, since I support even modest attempts at improving |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #135 |
146. Sometimes one is better off without |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Haven't broken out champagne--nor am I singing a dirge, either. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
40. Oy vey |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
238. +1 |
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Kdillard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
43. It was not a frivilous party. It was a State Dinner for an important democracy. It is a |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. God forbid. Michele look like a well dressed middle class woman |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
130. If she did, you'd be complaining that she had more than the poor |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #130 |
134. And you would be critical if there were any criticism at all. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #134 |
151. Ummm, no |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. Yup. That is one of our major monuments - ostentatious. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
44. Sally Quinn just said, on MSNBC, "So when people look at this (state dinner) and say |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Yeah, Sally |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. So you DON'T think it's important for the U.S. to have good relations with India, |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Oh. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Wow. You obviously have no idea how diplomacy works. But you sure know how to |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. It sounds like a RWer |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. This was a STATE DINNER where important diplomacy takes place. I'm surprised |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #91 |
129. Red herring. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
171. Don't bother..the poster has |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. I see that. It's sad how bad DU is getting... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. No, we get it from the other end of the extreme where |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. That's right. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
119. I don't care who it was that said it..they were right and you |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Sally Quinn??????????? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I know exactly who she is. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Har. (eom) |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I must be too young. But I know what she said and it made perfect sense, unlike the |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. it made perfect sense... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Like your board buddy said, it doesn't matter where it came from. It still "holds." |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
124. I know who she is too..but what she says it right and.. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Thanks, Cha. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Careful jenmito. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. You think so? I don't. And where's the "double dip recession" that the OP talked about |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
49. It was a very classy affair .... ruling classy! One might even say bourgeois ! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
145. Like President Obama hasn't had many people at the |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
51. This place has officially jumped the fucking shark. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Absolutely not. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Ok fine. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. I never said anything like that. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. And you still haven't said what he should be sacrificing. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. why the drama? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
78. Your message is "Anti-Obama" screed All The Fucking |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
113. I think you are overwrought. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. I'm pointing out the facts. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #117 |
138. Facts? |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
85. If you look at the photos from the events earlier in the day |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. I know she does, God bless her. |
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khal02 (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
90. UMM |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
99. At this very moment, the whole Obama family is working a community service event in DC. |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. Good point! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
115. Right! They are always doing that sort of thing! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #99 |
152. Yeah, computer chair whiners. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. why does it have to be either silk OR rags? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. I don't understand why your point continues to be missed in this conversation. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. I am coming to see that ostentation means different things.. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. Because some people have ruling class affectations, sorta like groupies who admire the rich. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
103. hmmmmmmmmm |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
169. Now you're accusing the Obamas of being groupies..your |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Mmm hmm. And how *specifically* would you have Obama show |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. again, why do you go to the extreme?? (eom) |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. And again, no specifics from you. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #83 |
102. I did post my own suggestion. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. That means nothing. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
252. First of all, you know damn well that buying from Macy's or whatever "middle ground" |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Absolutely. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. I just looked and yep, that's exactly what they're saying at FR. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. There will be more in common with FR |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. No, anything Obama does is wrong is the meme |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. Fail. I OPPOSE the escalation. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. again, why the extreme? |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. All I am asking is for you to post some specific suggestions. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. I think there have been a number of suggestions made. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #111 |
139. "tastefully dressed up for a formal occasion" |
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mrbarber (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #111 |
204. The food was extremely expensive? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. You are confusing criticism and hatred. That's a copout. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. And back to the point of the thread. I already asked grasswire this. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #100 |
112. the "criticism" is not constructive, and occurs every day from the same |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #112 |
122. Well of course is not constructive because every day other folks |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #122 |
136. Everything he does may not be right |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
109. Now that's untrue |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
199. +1! Sing it! I'm sick of it, too! n/t |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
69. Next thing you know....... |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Once the war has escalated who knows |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Again-Do you have proof of them "spending to the max be it on vacations, or in the White House"? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. You know I already posted the link. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. No-you posted a link to ONE vacation which they paid for themselves. You didn't back up |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. Uh the article stays that the Obamas and the taxpayers paid for the vacation. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Uh, you did NOT back up your claim "spending to the max be it on vacations, or in the White House." |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
108. The WH is what it is |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Show off the poverty? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. You were the one describing the U.S. as if it were in a state of poverty |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. That poster doesn't want to hear any facts.. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #126 |
142. If you would share some facts |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Bullshit.you want to show off how anti-Obama you are. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Ignore. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #148 |
173. Then don't respond. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #123 |
140. I thought that was the American Dream |
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dalaigh lllama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
160. What a load of whiny claptrap |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
161. Dumbest thread ever |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #161 |
234. bogus |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #234 |
243. Do tell! |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #161 |
235. I'm sure something will come along to top this tomorrow. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #235 |
244. Unfortunately, you're right. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
162. Yes, we should treat our allies to the Grand Slam at Denny's. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Surprise. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Where's the double-dip recession? Or do facts mean nothing to you? n/t |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #164 |
174. The things you make me do. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #174 |
228. "Two wars and a double dip recession..." We are NOT in a double dip recession. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #164 |
205. Jenmito I thoughts the facts meant something to you. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #205 |
231. I just came back to the computer and responded to your post. How many of mine haven't you |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Unlike you, who assumed, without proof, that child labor was involved in making Michelle's dress. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. Wrong. I never did assume it. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. You asked it apropos of nothing. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #167 |
179. When the designer responds that 40 people worked on it and the |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #179 |
182. Now you're just grasping at strawmen. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. India never uses child labor and |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #184 |
187. I didn't realize every single product from India is the result of child labor. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. Think about it. 40 people worked on the dress. How could that dress be affordable |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #190 |
193. Yeah, you got me. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #193 |
206. Surely. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #206 |
207. Secondhand insults from a third-rate poster. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #207 |
213. Evidently |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #213 |
218. No, you were the one who responded to me in the first place. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #218 |
221. Yes and you kept responding to me from there on. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. Yeah, it's a Stupid ass question. "child labor?" |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. They're just getting more pathetic. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #162 |
266. But that's too rich. There's the dollar menu at Mickey D's. n/t |
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Kitsune (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
172. I tend to think that less glitz is a good thing at any time. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. I like a little glitz now and then. It does us all good, IMO. Michelle in her WOW dress. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
180. ".State dinner for India a green affair" |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. Looks like a lot of green was spent on that one. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. I realize you don't care about what kind of green the Obamas are |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. You made that one too easy. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. I didn't make it ..the Obamas had a green state dinner and |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. I made a little joke about "green". |
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mrbarber (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #194 |
211. Oh, was that suppose to be a joke? |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #211 |
264. I laughed at it. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #183 |
210. You've proven yourself to be nothing but a snarky, substance-less asshole this thread. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
191. Damn That FDR.... |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #191 |
202. What 's wrong with him? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #202 |
240. State Dinners Are Ostentatious - Even During War Or A Troubled Economy |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
192. The question is who paid for it - if it was the Obamas, not the government - there's no problem |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #192 |
267. It has been said and Michelle has said-- she pays for her things herself. |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
196. Oh Jesus.... get a grip. Everything is a contraversy. nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
198. WTF? Michelle Obama paid for that dress out of her own pocket. Why are you harping on it? |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
200. Oh please. You don't remember how people mocked the Carters do you? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
203. Would you like dessert with that whine? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
208. It's a fucking state dinner. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
209. Some people have an almost instinctual desire to be ruled by a potentate... |
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mrbarber (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #209 |
214. Oh yeah, that dinner on the lawn featuring locally grown vegetables just screams weath and decadence |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #214 |
216. Get some perspective on how ordinary people live if you get the chance. |
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mrbarber (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #216 |
219. Stop ASSuming you know anything about me. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #219 |
222. I have absolutely no interest in you. nt |
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mrbarber (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. And yet that doesn't stop you from having a condscending tone towards my post. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #214 |
224. That didn't but so-called "state dinners" do. You don't understand the difference? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
212. Just the oppositie is true |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
215. Duly noted and unrec'd. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
227. I was troubled by the images myself... it's a bit like |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #227 |
242. Oh, I just bet you were troubled by something |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #242 |
255. You see conspiracy and hidden motives everywhere |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #255 |
257. Conspiracy? What conspiracy? |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #257 |
259. "Who me?" You never accept any statement that is remotely critical |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #259 |
260. Uh huh. Sure. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #260 |
262. This from the king of them all. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #242 |
261. "troubled" = "very concerned" |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #261 |
263. For someone like yourself, discussion on the merits of a case in never possible. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #227 |
269. You're kidding me, right? Whaling on the Obamas for throwing a lavish |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
229. What's wrong.. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
230. Double dip recession? Has this just become a commonly accepted fact? |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
232. We are currently ending one of the wars and the recessions are over according to economists |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #232 |
258. None of that matters to the |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
233. Maybe they're out of sackcloth and ashes. |
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Sannum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
241. Yes. Michelle should have worn something from Salvation Army. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
246. excellent points grasswire |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #246 |
270. When Chinese Premier Hu Jintao visits me, I make sure to answer the door |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #246 |
271. .. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
247. OMG...I can imagine the abuse you will take for this post... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
248. 40 jobs, for three weeks, to make a work of art... they should do this *more* often. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
254. I don't have to live in the ghetto to care about the plight. Likewise, the First Lady... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
265. What should the precise and relevant |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
268. You have left me speechless. Obama hate just goe OTT when I see this post. n/t |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
272. this is your perception, and it is definitely not everything |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
273. I remember Bush's 16 "balls", shutting out amputee Veterans, |
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