Was the "Landrieu phone caper case" really a bug retrieval mission than planting one???

[CK_John]

I think so, it seems like the old, one con distracts and the other con liberates the object of interest.

This may already be leading back to Justice Dept lawyers. What did they know and when did they know it????

If Sen Landrieu resigns soon I would not be suprised.

[thunder rising]

1. It was just a prank ... like the party crashers (that then refused to testify) CIA is messaging

[dkf]

2. Why would they put these right wing hacks in charge of it?

Makes no sense. Besides I'm sure they wouldn't have arrested them if it were the case.

[CK_John]

5. Well they could have heard from dad about it and decided to make brownie points with someone.

Just a possibility?

Another did dad put them up to it? Seems too risky.

[WeDidIt]

3. The DOJ has professionals plant bugs

No way these fucks were retrieving anything from Landrieu's office involving the DOJ.

[CK_John]

4. It was just a second rate job at the Watergate Apt, look how that turned out.n/t

[happyslug]

6. But the people doing the break in were first run

The problem was the security guard did his job and kept removing the tape the prevented the outside door from locking. The Guard did it twice and reported it to the Police who showed up and made the arrest. Yes, even first rate burglars screw up, but not as bad as this crew.

[MUAD_DIB]

7. But they have had 35 years to perfect their craft.

You don't do stupid twice in a row: unless you want to be caught.

[CK_John]

10. I'm beginning to think this was a message to every member of Congress. We got you on tape. n/t

[MUAD_DIB]

12. Which would be a much larger Federal offense bordering on political terrorism. No?

Republicans illegally recording their opponents phone conversations?

The GOP would have to either condemn or approve of the methods. If the approved them then they would be screwed.

If they condemned them then they would have to enforce the law.


If they (GOP/O'Keffe) had everybody on tape, or if there was the threat of such a thing, I would bet you that congress would move pretty fast to protect itself by shutting anybody down if they were to use illegally obtained recordings.

What is the federal policy/laws regarding anybody or any news outlet that was to use illegally obtained recordings?

Even if these knuckle heads had that ability they would be writing their memoirs from a federal penitentiary for decades to come...as well as anybody that helped them do it.


I don't believe that the GOP would want that hung around their collective heads since this is an election year. That would be very bad for them.

[CK_John]

13. You seem naive that for the previous 8 yrs the WH taped everyone. Cheney's basement was in full

operation. Information is Power and the puppets dance.

[MUAD_DIB]

14. Do you have all those tapes?

The topic wasn't about Cheney. The topic wasn't about 8 bad years of Cheney/Bush.

It was about those acting on their own interests or on others interests and who now have been caught red-handed.

Cheney/Bush could hide what they did, lie about what they did and possibly destroy evidence.


What these clowns did was fumble big-time and get caught. Now, hopefully, the are subject to the full penalty of the law.


So let's stay on message and not turn this into a vanity flame war.


Okay?

[ellenfl]

8. i thnk the landrieu incident was a bunch of brainless morans

thinking they would get their 15 minutes of fame for successfully infiltrating the office. o'keefe wants more adulation from hannity and company . . . and he got it. they are way too amateurish to be that organized, imo. they may have other rw morans bankrolling them but who knows why. perhaps their backers want this kind of publicity and these guys (obviously) are expendable.

ellen fl

[Gman]

9. These guys were confident their bullshit would prevail

they assume people are dirt stupid. They were very wrong in this case. Now the question is, who do they work for?

[Orsino]

16. ...didn't consider their disposable nature if they happened to get caught.

"If any member of your team is caught or killed, the RNC will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Good luck, chump."

[Gman]

17. I guess somebody did promise them an attorney if they got caught, or maybe

they're being provided an attorney to keep them from spilling their guts to save their own asses. Somebody wants to control what they say and who they say it to.

[Vinnie From Indy]

11. These guys were amateurs

It could be possible that they were duped into their caper and used as a distraction, but that is highly unlikely.

The fact is that there are people working for our government that, if determined to do so, could have easily penetrated the Senators office without being detected. They are that good. It should also be noted that Republicans like Dick Cheney probably STILL have access to the awesome powers of the NSA/CIA through leave behinds and such. Why would they need to send in through the front door such a ridiculous crew of morons?

[yellowcanine]

15. My feeling is it was either a poorly planned attempt at sabotage or a poorly planned reconnaisance

mission - with the intention of coming back later and planting a bug or committing an act of sabotage once they had established some "bonafides" with the staff as "telephone repair men" and scoped out the telephone closet. However I really think it was the former - they actually thought they could waltz into a Federal building and pull off a ratfuck operation on Sen. Landrieu and get away with it.

[onenote]

18. so you think they had professionals install a bug and sent bozos to retrieve it?

not likely