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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:30 PM
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**** President Obama Remarks on the State of the Union, Live! 9pm Eastern ****
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 08:31 PM by Clio the Leo
Watch Online....

White House stream
http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

CSPAN
http://www.c-span.org/Executive/State-of-the-Union.aspx

CNN
http://www.cnn.com/video/fb/comments.sotu.html?stream=stream1

(You can also watch VIPs arrive on a separate stream there)

Chris Cilizza's Twitter page...
http://twitter.com/TheHyperFix
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:32 PM
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1. Kick -- Thanks, Clio! nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:35 PM
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2. Thanks Clio!
:popcorn:

Twitter #sotu hashtag - http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sotu
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:35 PM
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3. Thanks for the info
I was just about to ask about the best place to watch on line. You must have read my mind.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:37 PM
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4. This VIP cam is fascinating.....
http://www.cnn.com/video/fb/comments.sotu.html?stream=stream1

... it's like watching the Red Carpet at the Oscars only the people walk faster, aren't dressed as well, have fewer implants and only seem to mildly care that the cameras are there.

The Vice Hottness of the United States just passed .... and guess what .... he was TALKING!!! lol
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:38 PM
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5. .... and there go the Senate pages....
... awwww, aren't they cute.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:39 PM
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7. ... and now they've opened up the mic....
.... so you can hear the random chatter on the House floor.

Guess what, Joe, still talking! Only now he's talking, walking smiling and POINTING! ;)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:40 PM
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8. and please dont tell me I'm not the ONLY one.....
... geeked out to see the various "celebrities."

Look! There's Chuck Schumer!

(another Biden point ...... we should really do a Biden -pointing drinking game.)

There's John Thune ....... BOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:38 PM
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6. I'm SO NERVOUS
I hope he does good.

I hope everything goes well.

Dear God, let the Dems pull this one out. I'm so sick of bad news.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:41 PM
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9. He'll do good. But the talking heads will say other wise
You should have learned this by now
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:50 PM
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19. True dat! nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:48 PM
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13. You know what *I* hope.....
.... that there aren't any weird distractions. At the HCR speech and that press conference we had weird distractions (Joe Wilson and the copgate) that the media spent MOST of their time discussing the next day, ignoring the broader message.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:29 PM
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41. he's doing well - addressing lots of concerns - wonderful
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:42 PM
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10. FLOTUS is wearing either purple (the color of bipartisanship of course)....
... or it MIGHT be navy blue.

Appeared to be silk shantung. :)

POTUS is wearing ..... a suit.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:46 PM
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11. POTUS in either a red and blue striped tie or a....
.... BLUE and red striped tie....

no doubt in answer to THIS Tweet...

http://twitter.com/Todd_Zwillich/status/8280517048 :)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:58 PM
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21. Correction..... aubergine sweater, darker taffeta skirt....
.... arms covered.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:47 PM
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12. All a twitter - please make us proud... nt.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:48 PM
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14. MSNBC has a split screen showing what is happening on the House now
Keith and Rachel rock!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:49 PM
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16. Usually, but their recent actions are causing them to lose their base. :-) NT
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:04 PM
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130. +1
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:48 PM
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15. lol Nancy just told Biden, "if everyone would just sit down we could start" :-) NT
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:49 PM
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17. POTUS and FLOTUS are IN the building.....
.... must be nice to be able to skip all traffic lights.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:50 PM
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18. Last call for potty breaks!
Speech is supposed to go over an hour!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:55 PM
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20. The Justices of the Court ...... BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
..... well, booo to five of them anyway.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:05 PM
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24. Justices Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia apparently skipping tonight's State of the Union.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:09 PM
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27. Thomas probably found his Coca-Cola with the pubic hair.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:17 PM
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32. No SHIT! This is why...
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:19 PM
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137. Fat Tony had more important business to do---eat a nice fatty dinner followed by cake, ice cream &
2 double lattes.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:15 PM
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136. bwahahaha---Alito looked like he would cry out, "You Lie!" when Obama took SCOTUS to task
:rofl:
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:03 PM
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22. Let's get this party started!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:04 PM
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23. 7,026 words
:popcorn: ... :boring: ... :popcorn: :)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:07 PM
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25. Oh the hands of the little pages reached out to touch him...
...... OBAMA SUPERSTAR!!! WHO ARE YOU WHAT DO THEY SAY YOU ARE!!!! :)

.... see y'all after the talk!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:11 PM
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28. 'the talk', 'the little chat', just him and me.
:rofl:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:56 PM
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122. lol, that's a southernism....
.... when church members leave the building on Sunday morning, they tell my father, "good talk, preacher."

The whole image of Rev. Obama standing up to give a talk at what is REALLY our National Cathedral... with the choir behind him .... and rebuking the sinners .... might be a metaphor only *I* appreciate .... but gosh, I enjoy it.

And let the church say "AMEN!" ;)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:08 PM
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26. Did he really have to give such a welcome to Geithner?
Geithner and Summers should be canned!
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:13 PM
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29. I feel so proud of the man we elected President!
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:15 PM
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30. Nancy looks sad
she is holding back tears
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:17 PM
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31. Thanks Clio for the c-span
link..I have it on and cbs muted.:)
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:22 PM
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33. Republicans don't like tax cuts now? eom
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:22 PM
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34. "I thought I'd get some applause for that one." What a comedian!
:rofl:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:24 PM
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36. Even Boehner and Cantor had to smile when he said that!
:D
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:24 PM
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37. That was pretty damn funny
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:23 PM
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35. Ok, so who was the joker who was that yawned?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:25 PM
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38. I thought it was McConnell but only saw the image very briefly. nt
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:29 PM
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40. Harry Reid.
:eyes:

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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:35 PM
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42. Oh God, why doesn't that surpise me
Someone ought to grind him up in to beef. Worthless!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:04 PM
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129. WTF? I saw Reid yawning, too. Up too late, maybe?
:crazy: You'd think he would can the yawns until he got out of the chamber. Did he fart, too?
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:27 PM
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39. WTF was Cantor mouthing just then?
Anyone a good lip reader and catch what he was saying?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:38 PM
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47. "Let's not piss off our corporate masters by clapping."
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:43 PM
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56. DUzy! nt
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Bushstayoutofmybush Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 01:26 AM
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140. What cantor was saying...
I seriously think he was saying, "That's a boatload of crap" in response to the President.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:36 PM
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43. I don't see my boss there (Shaun Donovan, HUD Secretary) n/t
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:37 PM
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44. I disagree with him about nuclear power and clean coal
but it's probably a necessary evil to get a clean energy bill.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:39 PM
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49. What's an alternate option that's viable? I really don't know. nt
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:42 PM
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54. If there is enough funding for clean energy, then we can ween our way off it
But it's hard to get that passed without clean coal and other stuff that isn't as enviromentally friendly. There is no easy answer.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:45 PM
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59. There is no such thing as clean coal
“Clean coal” is the industry’s attempt to “clean up” its dirty image – the industry’s greenwash buzzword. It is not a new type of coal.

“Clean coal” technology (CCT) refers to technologies intended to reduce pollution. But no coal-fired power plants are truly ‘clean’.

“Clean coal” methods only move pollutants from one waste stream to another which are then still released into the environment. Any time coal is burnt, contaminants are released and they have to go somewhere. They can be released via the fly ash, the gaseous air emissions, water outflow or the ash left at the bottom after burning. Ultimately, they still end up polluting the environment.

“Clean coal” methods only move pollutants from one waste stream to another.

http://www.greenpeace.org/seasia/en/campaigns/climate-change/climate-impacts/coal/the-clean-coal-myth
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:06 PM
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131. Obama's drinking the corporate koolaid on this & Dems clapping, too
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 11:07 PM by wordpix
That's one statement I wouldn't have clapped about.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:54 PM
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73. Dear Ignored
I can't see what you said and don't care.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:44 PM
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112. LALALALALALALA
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:01 PM
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127. Germans have subsidized solar panels on homes, businesses, public bldgs
we not US?

It's absurd the entire southeast and southwest aren't running on solar, if Germany can.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:39 PM
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50. not to mention offshore drilling - all we need are more oil spills
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:37 PM
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45. "safe nukes and clean coal technology" WTF??? NO NO NO - that is backward, not forward
geesh :grr:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:38 PM
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48. No such thing as clean coal
Nice kiss he threw to the industry.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:51 PM
Original message
self delete
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 09:54 PM by wordpix
and teabaggers :popcorn:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:10 PM
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132. Lest he forget the coal ash pond wiping out a town, I'm here to remind him
And don't think it won't happen again

Ditto nukes and 3 Mile Island and Chernobyl

Ditto offshore oil drilling, hurricanes, loose drilling rigs and oil spills
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:39 PM
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51. What's an alternate option that's viable? I really don't know. nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:38 PM
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46. Bunch of assholes in denial there is climate change
Too bad the TV camera didn't show their faces when they reacted to Obama's remarks on green technology.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:39 PM
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52. On Trade Deals
KFDA has not been ratified. He just mentioend South Korea.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:42 PM
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:43 PM
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55. Bullshit. nt
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:44 PM
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57. Wow the Obama=Bush meme is getting old
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:46 PM
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60. Bush, Reagan, Clinton, blah blah blah
I am not hearing what I want to hear, which is populist fire. I want to know that people are more important than corporations. I want more than partisanship.

I want the hope that I voted for, not the sugar pills I'm being fed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:51 PM
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:51 PM
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71. Tone deaf
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:57 PM
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77. what?
did you say something?
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:04 PM
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83. Thanks for confirming what I said
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:07 PM
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85. Yes, you're right. I'm tone deaf. I don't like this tone.
It's the sound of bipartisanship

It's the sound of nothing
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:44 PM
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58. ...
Wow. With analytical skills like that, I can see how you are hard to please.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:47 PM
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62. yeah whatever. I feel horrible that you don't like me
fucking hillarious
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:47 PM
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61. Get serious... nt
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:48 PM
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65. I'm deadly serious. Get realistic
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:48 PM
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64. LOL
That's all ya got?
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:50 PM
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67. nope, but thats all Ive got energy for. Since this SOTU started i feel sooooo sleepy
can...stay....awake....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:52 PM
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72. BS - Obama's way more evolved than Dimwit
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:57 PM
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76. He sure is. It was much easier to make fun of a moron like Bush
Obama is so much better educated, so much more eloquent, and so much more cool than Bush ever hoped to be.


All the more reason why I'm so disappointed in the tired excuses that pass for answers.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:49 PM
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66. Easy Aneswer to your question -- Single Payer
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:50 PM
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68. Oh God i just killed another thread
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:40 PM
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108. lol, but nice change on the avatar....
..... when you heard that Dylan was going to be performing at the WH next month, did you decide he was a sell out? (kidding)

I'm serious about the avatar though, love Bernie.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #66
69. If ever there was a time for someone to interrupt him, that would have been it. *nt*
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:55 PM
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74. hahaha---the big deficit hole happened "before I walked in the door" - good to remind the repugs
& teabaggers :popcorn:
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #74
79. And good for him for doing so
Now it's ripping them for campaign finance reform.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:56 PM
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75. He's tearing them up...
We can't continue to do that.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #75
80. Tonight
tomorrow's another day.

I lost faith in this President's ability to keep a promise.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #80
84. A tone deaf person is just as bad as a person who follows in step
With that, welcome to ignore.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #84
86. I'm tone deaf, and you put me on ignore?
That's rich. Thats fucking rich. LOL!
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #84
88. Dear Ignored
I can't see what you said and don't care.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #88
104. i believe only half of that , lol
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:58 PM
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78. SCOTUS, givin' them hell, the ones that showed up! nt
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #78
87. Yeah, the two right wingers decided to stay home and sleep through it
It goes to show how worthless they are. I hope both of them choke on their own bile.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:00 PM
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81. Ginsburg looks so frail
I hope she hangs in there.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #81
133. she did not look good
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:04 PM
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82. So if Dems are not supposed to run for the hills
then why has that been the standard for operations?


Talk Talk Talk Talk
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #82
89. Maybe the President is trying to change the tone. That's part of
his job, too. So go root for the next green, rethug, whoever you think can do better. :shrug:
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. You know what - no one gives a better speech
but what's the use of a speech right now - unless you plan on doing the things you put into the damn speech?


Obama made some damn fine speeches during the campaign.

Damn fine.

Damn...
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:17 PM
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93. Admit it, you're not even listening.
You have that much in common with the Freepers - minds made up before he said a word.

Oh well.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #93
94. +1
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #94
103. lol
+ none
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #93
101. I'm trying to listen. But I keep yelling at the screen
and it doesn't even matter if you, or everyone here thinks I'm a freeper or whatever. If it's easier for you to file my dissatisfaction away in a box, have at it. Who cares...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #101
110. wtf were you yelling at? Do tell. nt
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #110
114. I was yelling
"I had HOPE. I believed in CHANGE. You FUCKD THAT UP"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #114
116. OK. You're whacked. Bye. No more attention to you. nt
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #116
119. ok. bye
nice chatting with you.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #116
125. Bingo
He/she is already on ignore for me too. So if you are that person, don't bother to respond.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:02 PM
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128. LOL. You KNOW you wonder what i'm saying, that's why you can't stay away
well, I hat to disappoint you, but I'm not going to flam ya. I alos know you slip out of the IGNORE to read me, and then go back in again.

Peace.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:42 PM
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111. It's hard to hear when you're too busy yelling. Ask Joe Wilson.
:shrug:
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #111
115. Yeah, I'll do that. Thanks. Feel better now that the snark is out?
I wish I felt better. All I feel is a depressing sort of Deja Vu.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #115
118. hey demwing---is the change not happening due to Obama OR
due to the corporations, party of NO, hordes of lobbyists, Big Hole BushCo's put us in, and other obstructionists?

IOW, it's not all Obama's fault

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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:56 PM
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121. I couldn't agree any more. You are right.
Sorry to be a bummer to everyone. It's been a fucking bad year for me, and I just don't have the hope mojo anymore.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:12 PM
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134. awww, don't give up hope---O's a smart young pres with a good heart
I trust him. :grouphug:
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:57 PM
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123. Feel great demwing, thanks for asking. I'm sorry you so hated the address, maybe...
...you and the President were destined never to get along? :shrug:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #91
95. Do you have a better idea of a candidate or someone who would
be better as president? After idiot son, I can think of no one, in either party. So you tell me.
And it's not just the great speeches, it's the trust I feel behind this man who really wants to accomplish so much if he was only given a chance to do so without all the partisan bullshit.

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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:26 PM
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100. I had the same sense of trust once
and I lost it over Health Care. I lost it over bipartisanship. I lost it over months of unemployment and simultaneous Wall Street bailouts.

I can't tell you who would be better, I can only tell you my trust is gone.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #100
106. Then you are a downer to me. You listen, but all you have is negative
stuff to share? Why bother even being here?

I could possibly be in worse straits than you, but I refuse to cave.

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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:41 PM
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109. good. keep smiling
peace
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #89
92. He/she will root for anyone but Obama
If he/she lost faith, it makes you wonder how much of a supporter he/she was to begin with.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #92
102. You know what - I apologize. I don't want you to give up your hope.
Not my intention at all. I think you're wrong, and Obama is not the leader he sold himself as. That's my opinion, clearly not yours. I wish you the best.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #92
105. Dear Ignored
I can't see what you said and don't care.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:45 PM
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113. LALALALALALALA
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #105
124. Bwhaha. I'm stealing that! nt
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:21 PM
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138. me, too---and I love the graphic to go with it!
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #105
139. Same here...
I put this flaming idiot on ignore and the average IQ on this thread went up by 30 points.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:14 PM
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90. And there it is
Anyone listening? Those that have trashed Obama the last year.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:21 PM
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96. This is with out a doubt the BEST Sotu I have heard ever.
I give him a 10++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #96
117. +1 I love this man, even though I don't agree 100%, specifically about
clean coal, safe nukes, environmentally friendly drilling offshore, and other fantasies
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #96
126. It was "hot". And I'm sure it will suck to some people. Same as it ever was. nt
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #126
135. BushCo, the wingnuts and teabaggers won't like it. Boo f-ing hoo for them
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:21 PM
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97. dupe
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 10:22 PM by jillan
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:22 PM
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98. OK, this I'm listening too - noisy democracy
difficult change

I believe this is true. But I just don't see Obama following through on what he promised. He promised change I can believe in, and he hasn't offered any real change - not from Bush, but from any President in my lifetime.

Eloquence will only go so far. Reagan could read a good speech. Obama can write one. Is that change?

I don't want crap about what great spirit American's have.

I want a President that says he'll stand up for YOU, and then actually DOES WHAT HE SAYS.


So far, Obama has stood up for the corporate and political interests. It's all Wall Street and K street. No Main street.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:24 PM
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99. A speech for the ages - "I don't quit"
He addressed everything head on and called out the obstructionists.


:fistbump:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:38 PM
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107. I t was stellar!
I think, if no one obstructed this man's vision, this country would be in a lot better shape.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:54 PM
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120. fantastic speech and delivery - bravo! (except for the nukes, clean coal and offshore drilling)_
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 10:55 PM by wordpix
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