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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:54 PM
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I wasn't gonna post this, but, it'll just prove so many people here wrong:
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 07:57 PM by jenmito
Yes, it's another list of Obama's accomplishments, and it may have been posted before, but it's accurate and contradicts all the "Obama is a do-nothing, place-holder president" threads/posts:

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending

2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices

3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women

4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq

5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB

6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information

7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family

8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act

9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible

10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House

11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration

12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date

13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan

14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research

15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research

16. New federal funding for science and research labs

17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards

18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect

19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools

20. New funds for school construction

21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out

22. US Auto industry rescue plan

23. Housing rescue plan

24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan

25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying

26. US financial and banking rescue plan

27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed

28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards

29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops

30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010

31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols

32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic

33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions

34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office

35. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job

36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast

37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles

38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales

39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government

40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children

41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program

42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones

43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions

44. Expanding vaccination programs

45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters

46. Closed offshore tax safe havens

47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals

48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back

49. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices

50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources

51. Lower drug costs for seniors

52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings

53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel

54. Improved housing for military personnel

55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses

56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals

57. Increasing student loans

58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program

59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy

60. Established a new cyber security office

61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.

62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts

63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness

64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient

65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced

66. Improving benefits for veterans

67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration

68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud

69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco

70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules

71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports

72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons

73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive

74. Making more loans available to small businesses

75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare

76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court

77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans

78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000

79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel

80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan

81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan

82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans

83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production

84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters

85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket

86. Held first Seder in White House

87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured

88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform

89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform

90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

Oh, and he built a swing set for the girls outside the Oval Office!

By / Robert P. Watson, Ph.D.Coordinator of American Studies
Lynn University

http://www.tellingthoughts.com/asides/obamas-90-accomplishments-email-list
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:58 PM
Response to Original message
1. Thank you Jen.. for a moment I thought I had checked into the wrong
forum looking at another post :fistbump:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. I felt the same way which is why I posted this thread.
My pleasure. :fistbump:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:33 PM
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24. And another thank you.
An accomplishment that hasn't been mentioned: The First Bees. When a swarm of honey bees settled in the WH grounds, instead of ordering them destroyed which I'm sure Bush would have done, the President had the WH carpenter who is also a beekeeper build the girls a hive on the grounds. Latest report, they're doing well. Their surplus honey is being used in the WH kitchen and given out as gifts. A small thing, but says something about the quality of the man.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #24
44. You sound like someone
who has been following tonight's WH State Dinner. :)
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 05:27 AM
Response to Reply #44
62. I didn't. What happened?
Was the honey served or given as gifts?

My husband keeps bees and we've been following the First Bees story in the bee journals.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #62
72. The WH chef used honey from the "WH hive"
in making dessert. Michelle Obama mentioned it. That's cool that your husband keeps bees. :)
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #72
75. Ah. Very nice.
Thanks for the info. Himself will be pleased.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:59 PM
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2. not sure "deployed new troops to Afghanistan" is a positive, but thanks for the list
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:02 PM
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5. It is something he said he was going to do.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:06 PM
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9. Yes, jenmito, I remember that. Still not something I think is a "positive"
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:07 PM
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10. It's an accomplishment.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:13 PM
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13. sending more troops to Afghanistan is an "accomplishment"?!? for Who? KBR? Xe?
They have the service contracts, they get paid for building the facilities (even when they do such a crappy job at it that the electrocute soldiers taking showers)

So WHO wins by this? How is it an accomplishment? Really?
good grief. More fodder for the grist mill. No one wins. The window of oppourtunity in Afghanistan is closed. It's been eight YEARS of abuse and neglect, with Karzai as our "Beacon Of Democracy" - and that is an "accomplishment"?!?

yeah - right. :eyes:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Yes, since he campaigned on Afghanistan being the "good war." He did
something he campaigned on-concentrating on Afghanistan.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:28 PM
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21. he did campaign as a centrist not a progressive, and I think his attempts at centrism
have endeared him to SO many repubs in Congress too! Can't you see them lining up to support his plans?
LOL!

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. So you think he didn't REALLY think it was right to go into Afghanistan and did it so he could
endear himself to Repubs. in Congress?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:44 PM
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33. Last I checked Bush went into Afghanistan, Obama inherited it. He didn't choose it or "go into it"
on his own.
He "inherited" it when he became president. Did YOU think otherwise? Obama was SWORN IN as Senator in 2005 - last I checked the Afghanistan war began a wee bit earlier.... :eyes:
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:49 PM
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35. Obama wasn't even in Congress when Bush went to war in Afghanistan...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #33
36. I know it started under Bush. I also know Obama was FOR it and campaigned on
concentrating on it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 05:51 AM
Response to Reply #16
63. GOOD WAR!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!
LISTEN TO YOURSELF
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #63
73. Obama called it the "good war."
He campaigned on it. Were you not paying attention??
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #73
84. So putting more troops in Iraq would be an "accomplishment"
if he campaigned on that?

Shit, by that standard Bush's strategy in Iraq was a positive.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #84
95. He DIDN'T run on that. n/t
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #95
101. But if he HAD, it would be a good thing?
Your argument appears to be based on the idea that the measure of whether something is a moral or immoral act, whether something is good for human rights or bad for human rights, is whether a candidate announced before the election that he would do it.

I am suggesting that is not an appropriate way to evaluate the merits of a president's actions. It's a way to evaluate whether he did what he said he was going to do ... but not a way to evaluate whether those are good things or bad things.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #101
103. Yes...
if he ran on increasing the number of troops in Iraq (like McCain may have run on) and he DID, he would've ACCOMPLISHED something he set out to do. I can'b believe you don't understand the CONCEPT of that.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #73
99. OH I WAS PAYING ATTENTION
which is why he wasn't even CLOSE to my first choice. But I prefer not to repeat his campaign crap.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 09:20 PM
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100. Stop shouting.
If you voted for him in the GE, hopefully you knew what you were voting for. He's doing what he said he'd do. Either you voted for him or you didn't. Don't blame HIM for doing what he said he'd do.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #100
102. I WILL SHOUT ALL I FUCKING PLEASE
Edited on Thu Nov-26-09 01:30 AM by Skittles
I felt like I HAD to vote against repukes but that doesn't mean I did not know what I was getting when I voted for Obama - a lot of compromised-try-to-please-all stuff that pleases no one
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #102
104. Rude much?
:eyes: Again-Don't blame HIM for doing what he said he'd do.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 02:36 AM
Response to Reply #104
109. You beg for it. You are so blinded when it comes to President Obama. Hell,
you'd think he was a relative by the way you defend him.

Newsflash: He's admittedly super-intelligent but still a MERE MORTAL. :eyes:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. Yeah, right. It's a shame well supposed fellow Repubs. use RW phrases like you are.
Shake it off and get back to me when you realize "supporting" Obama does not equal being blinded or being a worshipper. :eyes:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #110
112. Yes, anyone who has the least negative critique of President Obama's behavior is ...
REPUBLICAN to you.

Do you not understand the IRONY figuratively smacking you on the side of your President Obama ADORING face? :crazy:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #112
115. You're wrong, as usual.
There are plenty of people who criticize Obama. Then there are those who do nothing BUT criticize him. You know-like Republicans.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #115
118. You're behaving hypocritical, as usual.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #118
119. Judging by the pic you just posted, you are not living in reality. I'll chalk it up
to ignorance on your part-not knowing what Obama ran on.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #119
121. Yes, when all else fails and you've lost the argument, suggest the poster is delusional.
This "waltz" with you is getting way too predictable. :(
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #121
123. Your pic claims Obama was "anti-war." If you believe that, you ARE delusional.
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 12:42 PM by jenmito
:(
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #123
125. No, once again you fail to capture the essence of the presentation.
You're hopeless ... yet you continue to IMO, litter GD:P with jingoistic and pro- Everything - Obama in an effort to FORCE our consent for everything he does.


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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #125
131. The pic you posted said Obama was "anti-war" and I'M the one who is hopeless?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #131
133. You just won't permit your brain to wrap around the fact that every humane person is ANTI-WAR.
Again, you wish to argue semantics and create a straw-man.

We simply disagree but your seemingly unfailing devotion to President Obama is noted. Such devotion will really hit you hard when you finally realize that WE, THE PEOPLE must make our leaders do what's right. No matter how intelligent President Obama is, he is still A MERE MORTAL and has his flaws ... like all of us.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #133
136. YOU are the one in denial by not accepting the fact that Obama was for continuing the Afghan war.
All the definitions YOU want to now give to the term "anti-war" mean nothing to those of us living in fact-based reality. Politically, Obama was and is not "anti-war" although I'm sure he hates the idea of killing as much as everyone else. Once you're able to wrap your head around the fact that Obama was and is still FOR this war in Afghanistan, maybe you'll realize you were wrong to call him "anti-war" and to expect him to change his position once becoming president. The pic you posted asks when an "anti-war" person like Obama turns into a killer or whatever. That's just bull. And all your name-calling of me being a worshipper, blinded by devotion, etc. is rude and uncalled-for and FALSE.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #136
138. I have had ancestors serving in Army combat back to the Civil War ... none of them were PRO-WAR.
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 08:03 PM by ShortnFiery
You don't get it and I don't know why. All I can fathom is that you don't presently have friends and family waiting to be sucked up into the meat grinder of the MIC? I assure you, that most of the loved ones of these soldiers want these two OCCUPATIONS to end NOW!

We are NOT keeping our fellow Americans safer and, in the process of feeding another TRILLION of our tax dollars to the multi-national corporations comprising the MIC, are killing tens of thousands more civilians.

FOR Karzai to hold his tenuous grasp on Kabul. That's ALL!

You don't get the FACT that patriotic soldiers are NOT Pro-War but Anti-War. We prepare and train but also PRAY to our HIGHER POWER that we are not forced to kill and die. If we are sent to war, we SHOULD DEMAND that CONGRESS declare "war" so we can go all out and win it with everything we have. Get it over! Not maintain these IMMORAL occupations - that's not war, it's just VILE.

These are UNJUST Occupations at this time and every day our combat troops occupy Muslim nations Americans are less safe both home and abroad.

p.s. I didn't mean to come across as RUDE but you make every DAMN issue about ONE MAN (President Obama). Forgive me if I consider your behaviors as devotional because that's, IMO, a fair conclusion.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #138
140. Obama was for contiuing the war in Afghanistan. If you considered that "anti-war" somehow,
then that's on you. But it is NOT what anti-war activists consider "anti-war." If you STILL can't understand that, then I won't keep trying to make you understand it. OBAMA considers the Afghan war JUST. You're honestly saying you considered Obama an "anti-war" candidate during the election? I don't see how you can believe that. Like I said, although nobody LIKES war, including Obama I'm sure, doesn't mean he doesn't think it's right to continue a war that HE considers just.

Re: your p.s.-You're STILL being rude by claiming I "make every DAMN issue about ONE MAN" and continuing your attack of me as "devotional." Who else am I supposed to make presidential political issues about? McCain? :eyes:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #140
141. I'm not being rude when I simply state what I have observed over and over.
I'm also commenting on your behavior NOT being rude to you as a person.

You continue to make EVERYTHING about President Obama's image.

Arguing with you is absolutely useless.

However, I will once again remind you that everything in America and the rest of the World does not revolve around President Obama and his reputation. :thumbsdown:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #141
142. I suggest if you don't want to talk about Obama and his policies, instead of
accusing others of making everything about Obama or thinking the world revolves around Obama, maybe you should stop posting here. Because we're DISCUSSING Obama. That doesn't mean the world revolves around him. You really don't understand much about certain things.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 02:33 AM
Response to Reply #73
107. My father fought in WWII and my brother in Vietnam, NEITHER told me they were GOOD wars.
No, not even WWII was characterized as "good" by my belated dad.

All war is HORRIFIC and waging war should be the LAST RECOURSE.

That's why Congress is guilty of conceding their authority to DECLARE WAR to the Executive Branch.

When you wage war you go ALL OUT 100% and end it ASAP.

These low level conflicts are VILE, if not TERRORISM in and of themselves.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #107
111. Don't shoot the messenger. n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #111
113. I fear that you may not know the true meaning of that term.
:wow: :(
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #113
117. And I fear you may not know the true meaning of being a DEMOCRAT.
:wow: :-( :eyes:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #117
120. Yes, is that what "true believers" do in the new Obama Forum? - force posters to submit ...
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 12:41 PM by ShortnFiery
to loyalty and DEMOCRATIC PURITY tests?

You can cut "the hypocrisy" of your statements with a knife. :(

Albeit your underlying intentions are noble, you sadly have it wrong.


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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #120
122. It's not new. It has been there judging on the dates of some of the posts there.
There are people on the left as bad as those on the right. Extreme is extreme.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #122
126. But only the MUSHY MIDDLE truly serves the status quo of the money powered elite.
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 04:08 PM by ShortnFiery
Mission Accomplished. :eyes:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #2
106. No, it's part of President Obama's three-dimensional chess that us unwashed masses do not
have the capability to understand his great powers of thought and insight. :eyes:

I never knew people to be so DEDICATED to one mere mortal beyond all reason.

Just sad.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #106
114. Wrong. It's doing what he said he was going to do.
Nothing more nothing less. But if you're unwashed, that's your problem.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:00 PM
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4. No number of facts are going to sway some number of self-described progressives from trying to bring
him down.


K and R!!!


:applause:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:03 PM
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6. I see that by the unrec's...
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 08:06 PM by jenmito
You're right...and thanks. :hi:
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:03 PM
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7. Michele tweeted me and asked me to remind you
that he also took out the trash back in April.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Sarah tweeted me and reminded me that you
voted for her.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #8
26. You follow Sarah on Twitter?
I might have known.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. Hmmm...
I notice you didn't deny what she said. ;)
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #30
38. who can deny the divine ms. sarah?
or the divine jenmito?

Not I. ;-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
32. Michelle Obama is too busy with real
life to be bothered with that.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #32
39. gee, do you think so?
And President Obama probably really does take out his own trash, huh?





:eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:46 PM
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41. I think you waste time.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #41
74. I don't care what you think.
At least not so far.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:38 PM
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85. Bully for you.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 02:34 AM
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108. ...
:rofl:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:09 PM
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11. Yes, Nice Deck Chair Arrangement. Now, About Those Icebergs....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:11 PM
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12. Allowing for federal funding of embryonic stem cell research in ITSELF is huge...
just for one example. I'm sure there are a few things on this list even YOU would agree with is a big change.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. Don't show your ignorance by
talking about "deck chairs" in reference to PO's accomplishments.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #17
57. You mean like the first White House Seder
Yeah, that's a big check mark. I'm glad he got that hard stuff out of the way...
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:14 PM
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14. this place is unbelievable
near as i can tell, my president has pissed off the right and the left wings

as a member of the 'squishy middle' - i am fine with that :shrug:

i am proud of my president, and i thank God every day that he is in charge of this country right now

he is doing exactly what i believed he would do. i pray he continues.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. This place looks more like
freeperville than DU. And it's a shame.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. I know it's sickeningly unbelieveable
and this is coming from someone who's been around since 2002.

Thanks for your supporting our President..he needs all the help he can get in this time of hysterical rage.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #19
27. You don't believe it because it's unbelievable.. There are legions
of paid operatives who's job it is to discourage and disparage everything and anything this president does or says.

They deploy in mass numbers on our board because they know that much progressive thought is processed here.

Never forget that when the board is at it's most sickeningly negative, we must have been fairly successful somewhere at something.
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. oh wow...i did not know that
explains a lot...thanks
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:10 AM
Response to Reply #29
58. And you still don't know that.
Because it's just a silly talking point to try to suppress criticisms. If the poster, or anyone else, has any evidence whatever of any poster here being a "paid operative" then one PM to the admins will take care of them. But that doesn't happen because it's bullshit.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #58
134. +1
But wouldn't it be more fun to spread FEAR of DU banning and demand "loyalty oaths?" :crazy:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #27
71. I believe this
There's something rotten in Denmark.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #27
96. It's up to the moderators to spot them and weed them out.
something that they are not doing a good job of. When someone is consistently on the board spouting one right wing talking point after another, and has NEVER had anything positive to say about Obama, I think the moderators need to catch a clue about what their motives are.

They have had discussions on Free Republic that some of the moderators here are plants as well. I'm beginning to think that they are not just bragging.

In the meantime, putting them on ignore is probably the best policy. It's the easiest way not to feed them.

There is nothing wrong with legitimate complaints about what Obama is doing. However that's not what is happening. What is happening here is that many posters are making up or distorting what he is doing or is going to do and then go into hyper poutrage over it insulting and bitching at anyone who does not buy their fantasies.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #96
135. "They have had discussions on Free Republic..."
Very interesting. :evilgrin:

And how do you know about these discussions, aye? Maybe we should take a page form Comrade Bachman's book and have "an inquiry" into who IS and IS NOT truly faithful to the democratic party? :evilgrin: :sarcasm:

SEE HOW THAT WORKS? Fearmongering hurts us all.

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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #14
83. I wonder IF anyone has given a thought to where we'd be...IF
McCain/Palin had been elected?...redundant argument? most likely...but...it is still something to consider while we're bitching...I can't read Obama's mind...I can't advise him...I don't know what he's going to do next...but I know, I'm tired of everyone acting as though they elected him, because he convinced them he could change the world by wiggling his nose....did we all forget the condition of the country, when he moved into the WH?? IF we really expected him to overturn everything * did in the first year...Then we really elected him with our head up our asses...AND our disappointment in him/with him, is our own damned fault and WE ARE personally responsible for that...wb
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:16 PM
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15. They're unrec'd it bc they don't want PO's accomplishments
known..they'd rather have the whine list of the things that haven't happend yet.

And, to tout the idiot who says "palin will be president in 2012"

Who is such a bad guesser that he states.."Meanwhile, my guess is that the winner of the GOP nomination in 2012 will be the winner of the presidency that fall, just as the real contest in 2008 was to win the Democratic nomination.

My guess is that that person is now running around the country plugging her book."


Thanks for doing this..it needed to be done to counter the last two threads on this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x11009

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x15286

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Yup...
I read those threads. They should've been locked if you ask me.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #15
128. ...
I can't BEGIN to imagine what it would be like to live within "your world view." :shrug:

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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:31 PM
Response to Original message
22. Rec, for balance.

The bipolar swings on GD:P wear a man out.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. Thanks...
and don't you hate when you try to say one thing and it turns into a smiley with its tongue sticking out? :D
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
28. Gladly Rec'd
DU:GD needs to be quarantined.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. Thanks, PBS.
I agree.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
34. This is one of those wierd list put together by a well meaning person
that lists the same accomplishment twice a few times.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. Why do you consider it "weird"?
If you disagree with something on it, say so. Don't simply disparage it by calling it "weird". When you do that some people may think you simply have an anti-Obama agenda rather than specific disagreements with things on the list.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. It strikes me as an internet forward
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 09:47 PM by AllentownJake
:shrug:

It list individual things done in the stimulus bill and than the stimulus bill itself. It list commitments and promises as accomplishments.

The other thing is with stem cell research. From my understanding there was never a ban on research. There was a ban on taxpayer dollars going to research. Therefore one of the items is wrong and the other item is kind of a repeat.

This type of list would not survive media matters scrutiny.

I'm sure someone could put together a more accurate list, with citations. For the equal pay for women, it could cite the Lilly Ledbetter act and the date it was signed.

Just seems sloppy and poorly put together.

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inchhigh Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:48 PM
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42. Snore
Ater 10 full months..................the fact that the list only makes it to 90 by including things like "redecorating" and "announcing his intention to push for" is proof enough that he was all Show and no Go. Even if someone considered all 90 of these to be "good" things, the massive giveaway to Wall Street in the bank bailout easily outbalances all 90 to the bad side.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. Snore.
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 09:57 PM by jenmito
"The fact that the list ONLY makes it to 90..."? OK-take out the "trivial" things and you still have a darn long list. Allowing federal funding of ESCR is enough for ME.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. Yeah, you should have let bush know you didn't want that done. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #42
48. It doesn't prove a thing except that you've been
sleeping too much.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:37 PM
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46. K&R Thanks Jen
While I might wish some things were going differently, I think it is very important to remind ourselves of the good things that are happening so quickly. Thanks goodness for a Dem in the White House. I can't imagine what it would be like under M/P.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. My pleasure...
Yeah. There doesn't seem to be enough appreciation of President Obama here.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:51 PM
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49. K & R
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:05 PM
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50. Please explain where and how #52 happened. I do not think this is accurate
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
***************************************************************************

The last thread with all these accomplishments had exactly this same thing and I posted 2 times on that thread for someone to explain and substantiate this claim. As far as I know, drug negotiation for Medicare is a proposal under the House bill that would put this responsibility with the Sec of HHS. I don't think it has happened yet, if it will ever happen.

I'm always ready to be corrected. Please provide the truth for this claim.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. It is in the House Bill not in the Senate Bill and has not been signed into law
Like many things on this list, it is giving credits for ideas, promises, commitments, etc.

I said in my post, it is a bad email forward. Someone could do a decent job making a good one, but this one would be ripped to shreds by Media Matters
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #52
53. "the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings"
is just flat out wrong and disinformation. I hate it when Fox News does it and I hate it when people who should know better on our side sink to the same level.

This list is embarrassing because of the reaching that is evident in it. The real accomplishments would look better unadorned without adding all the stuff like "considered washing his own socks".


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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. Well meaning person, wrong idea
and of course, a shit load of people rec this and encourage it without taking a critical look at it.

Oh and if you are going to do this. Executive Order whatever the number is, accomplishment, link.

Help you maintain credibility.

Legally the President can't negotiate Part D drugs till the provision in the House Bill is signed into law. One of the gifts from Bush to Pharma.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:36 PM
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51. #91 ...... rescued some turkeys.....
... Lord willing. ;-)
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:54 PM
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54. Yeah, but aside from that... what has Obama done for us?
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 11:54 PM by Puzzler
(with apologies to Monty Python)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr3BUBnuptI
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:03 AM
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56. Good list. Thank you, jenmito. nt
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:13 AM
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59. Announcing your intention to do something is not an accomplishment
Nor is ordering a study or review, or the development of some future policy. Nor is "beginning to" do something an accomplishment.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 04:14 PM
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92. +1, those should be separate in the list. Good he did them but NOT an accomplishment.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:18 AM
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60. Some of These Obama Critics Are Freepers In Disguise
They come here every day to run down Obama and start talking shit.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:20 AM
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61. If you have evidence of that, post it.
Right now. I'm so tired of hearing this dumb shit stated as fact.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:37 AM
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76. Okay. If a teabagger came here every day
and posted criticism after criticism of Obama, while offering a few token words of support now and then -- how could one tell the difference between them and the self-proclaimed "true" progressives/Democrats here on DU who do the same thing?

I like how you call Democrats who support the Democratic president on Democratic Underground "apologists."
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #76
143. +1
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 10:34 PM by cry baby
I read and post arguing with rightwingers on a small political board. The right wing people post negative stuff about Obama all the time. It has become painful to come here and see the same things said...by democrats on a democrat board. I can't tell who is really supposed to be here because they are democrats or if they are disruptors.
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 06:07 AM
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64. Being Critical Here
"1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending"

I'll believe this one when I see it, and besides that in most areas the government already spends too little and gets too little results.

"Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women."

Good. This one is way too long in coming.

"Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq."

Not fast enough, and we shoulda never gone in there in the first place. And when its over, let's make sure those Blackwater bastards get made an example of, just as a warning that private contractors are not wanted for life and death jobs.

"Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House."

Judging by the health care debate situation, that means absolutely diddly fucking squat.

"Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan."

The next time an F-15 breaks apart in mid-air and this time kills its pilot, or (God forbid) we get into a war with somebody who has a decent air force, the government will sorely regret the decision to scrap the F-22. And you could use the F-22 in Afghanistan, if you wanted to. I'm hardly a teabagger, but relying on the F-15 fleet, the newest members of which are 24 years old now, is not a good idea - and if the F-35 flops, that is a massive, gigantic problem for the US Air Force.

"Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect."

It's just reducing the giant backlog in fixing the infrastructure problems the United States has. What's needed is a comprehensive overhaul, but the money to do that goes into bailouts for people who are already rich instead. :mad:

"New funds for school construction"

Which got cut out of the stimulus bill by a Democratic Senator. (Anybody care to guess which of the DLC cocksuckers did that?) I wouldn't call that much of an achievement.

"$789 billion economic stimulus plan"

Watered down like crazy because nobody rammed it through Congress. Thanks to the "obstruct and lie above EVERYTHING" Republicans, these get continually watered down because the DLC crowd - the Republicans who haven't got the balls to call themselves Republicans - keep demanding it.

"Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office"

Sorry, that ain't much of an achievement.

"Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc."

Obama's military plan is a double-edged sword. The setup he's aiming for is reducing conventional forces in favor of smaller units designed for "expeditionary warfare". This, to this admittedly inexperienced eye, is a bad idea. The "walk softly and carry a big stick approach" works better. Obama's military plans are tailor-made for fighting wars in Middle Eastern countries, not taking on the bigger rivals of our era. There is lots of problems here.

"Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured"

And he left it to Congress to handle the heavy lifting, and look what it got him. No liberal with any brains can support the current healthcare bill, its an atrocious, horrid, nasty monstrosity. And don't feed me the "it can be improved later" line - that won't happen and we all know it. Fixing the mess didn't need a conciliatory approach, it needed a "this is the way it is, and if you don't like it we'll make you pay for it" approach. The GOP, not to mention the psuedo-Democrat jerkoffs like Lieberman, Conrad, Nelson and Landrieu, have made more hay out of this than one can imagine.

"Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform"

100-1 that gets shut down or watered down by the DLC pigs.

I won't say he hasn't accomplished anything. That's not true. But he hasn't accomplished much, and he's spending way too much time worrying about the right-wing and the idiotic idea that some Republicans will be with him at all. All 40 of them want him out of that office pronto, some of the Congressmen (and maybe a Senator or two) don't think he's qualified to be there in the first place. So why, oh why, does anybody give a fuck about them? Oh right, the right side of the Democrats, namely the DLC traitors, aren't gonna go along with a progressive agenda.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 06:16 AM
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66. all this stupid padded list *proves* is how desperate you
apologists are by posting it and other *lists* over and over. :crazy:

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:50 AM
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70. All your stupid post does is prove your hatred for our president. n/t
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 06:40 AM
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67. K&R
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 07:12 AM
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68. Thanks again! K&R nt
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:39 AM
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77. It's amazing that posting a list of accomplishments of the Democratic president
here on Democratic Underground attracts all sorts of shit-flinging. Although, it's from the small usual crowd of constant criticizers, so it's to be expected.

This place is even more negative than it was under Bush.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:43 AM
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79. It kind of makes ya wonder why those here who do nothing but criticize Obama
get to keep posting here. There are other sites that would probably be a "better fit" for them.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:50 AM
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80. A good number of them are just purists
who will never, ever be happy with anything. Even when Obama does something they like, they complain it "wasn't fast enough." Seriously. Maybe it's a personality type - maybe some people cannot be happy unless they are complaining about something, anything.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:59 AM
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81. And others here will never get over the primaries.
They complain about things they'd "cheer" if it was THEIR candidate who did it.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:39 AM
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78. Escalated the war in afghanistan.
Escalated the war on public education.

Turned health care reform into health insurance reform pandering to insurance corporations.

Just to address my top 3 issues.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:04 PM
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82. There you go talking facts. You know how the DU Obama haters hate facts
nearly as much as they hate President Obama
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:59 PM
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87. A large number of items on your list
Edited on Wed Nov-25-09 01:00 PM by noamnety
presume that having a plan or a course of action is, by default, a good plan or a good course of action.

There's just not the level of critical thought in this list that I would hope for. It's like saying NAFTA was good because Clinton did it. Yes, he did something, but was it a good thing or a bad thing?

Escalating war in Afghanistan, yes he said he would do it. Does that make it a good thing?

The auto bailout/ cahs for clunkers - was that actually effective? What was the cost, what was the impact on landfills, what was the actual impact on the environment?

Is the financial support for Israel something we should be supporting? What's that money being spent on?

Is "increasing the size of the military" something we should be supporting?

Is the "education reform" he's advocating for something we actually approve of?

Was the "stimulus" plan effective for middle and low income families? Or did it disproportionately benefit CEOs?

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The measure of what's good or bad isn't ascertained by a noncritical list like this that presumes that doing a lot = doing well.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 01:36 PM
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88. A large number of things that have
been implemented so far are insuring us a better future.

ProSense (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-03-09 05:02 PM
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Hate to disappoint Maher and fans, but it only gets better
Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace

Order the closing of Guantanamo Bay

Prohibit use of torture

Obama Orders Secret Prisons and Detention Camps Closed

Obama Sets Bold New Principles for U.S. Energy, Climate Policies

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act

The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act

Omnibus Public Lands Management Act

Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program Act of 2009

Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act of 2009 or FERA (PDF)

Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009

Enhanced Partnership with Pakistan Act of 2009 (Kerry-Lugar includes funding for Obama's global poverty initiative)

Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act of 2009

End of 22-Year Discriminatory Travel Ban

Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act

Stopping Conflict-related Sexual Violence Against Women and Children

The UN, Women & Girls

New policy steps towards Cuba

Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia

Strategy to address the international nuclear threat

For the Media: "30+ Reasons Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize"

Russia on Nobel Peace Prize: Obama thawing 'second cold war'

World Reaction to Obama Winning the Nobel

Turkey, Armenia sign historic accord

Why the Stimulus Worked

Green jobs for real people: The story behind the recovery numbers

Obama's Plan: Financial Regulatory Reform: A New Foundation (PDF)


Requiring Strong Supervision And Appropriate Regulation Of All Financial Firms (pdf)


Strengthening Regulation Of Core Markets And Market Infrastructure (pdf)


Strengthening Consumer Protection (pdf)


Providing The Government With Tools To Effectively Manage Failing Institutions (pdf)


Improving International Regulatory Standards And Cooperation (pdf)


House Panel Moves Derivatives Toward Obama’s Proposal

FACTBOX: Major U.S. financial regulation reform proposals

Obama says Senate bill on tax havens would stop abuses

Statement by President Barack Obama on House and Senate Introducing Legislation to Crack Down on Overseas Tax Havens

Obama to chair historic U.N. council nuclear meeting

G20 to Become Forum for Global Economic Cooperation

Next comes Obama's budget, health care reform and more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8730317


And, some people conveniently forget what President Obama inherited from the bushcheney years. "History is Not a Dirty Word".

"Think Again: “History” Isn’t a Dirty Word"

By Eric Alterman | November 19, 2009

Last week, Mike Allen and Jim Vandehei at Politico reported that the White House planned on making deficit reduction a centerpiece of the next State of the Union address. Allen and Vandehei called the decision “practical” saying that “Obama has spent more money on new programs in nine months than Bill Clinton did in eight years, pushing the annual deficit to $1.4 trillion. This leaves little room for big spending initiatives.” This fact is taken completely out of the context of the recession. The title of the article refers to the White House's “spending binge.” The deficits, tax cuts, and spending of the previous administration are ignored entirely.

It’s not exactly news that most members of MSM are almost purposely amnesiac. There is no greater insult to a reporter than to call his story “history.” And yet once upon a time, it was only yesterday that was old news. Nowadays, with the new neverending cable/talk-radio/blogosphere-driven news cycle, we are all supposed to have forgotten the past fifteen minutes. (There is actually a headline on the Drudge Report as I write this that the Associated Press went to the trouble of looking at the record and seeing whether any of the outrageous claims made in Sarah Palin’s memoir are true. The idea appears to be if it says so in a book, it’s wrong of a journalist to actually check the record. The (surprise, surprise) Fox News story contains no link to the AP story, further making the point that the record is really irrelevant to the story.)

"So back to Obama’s “spending binge.” Even if the Politico editors are not interested in what may have happened in the past eight years to cause some of the deficits with which the Obama administration is forced to deal, we are. And here are just a couple of examples we found:"

snip//

Afganistan: The legacy of Bush’s runaway military spending and his tax cuts is doing more than just destroying the fiscal health of our government—it is also endangering our security. Look at Afghanistan. According to a recent report in The New York Times, “Some administration estimates suggest it could also cost up to $50 billion over five years to more than double the size of the Afghan army and police force, to a total of 400,000. That includes recruiting, training and equipment.”

David Broder, dean of the national press corps, has actually written that Obama’s “urgent necessity is to make a decision—whether or not it is right.” That is how far we’ve come. Never mind that six years of a failed strategy by the Bush administration, to say nothing of rushing into a catastrophic war, and busting the budget with a giveaway to the rich tax cut, should be considered in the context of the decision. “Just do something” says Broder, regardless of whether it makes sense. Learn nothing from history. Repeat our mistakes over and over, regardless of the cost in blood and treasure to our country and our soldiers. Forget not only Iraq, but Vietnam as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x9239


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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:05 PM
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91. That didn't address my point.
It appears you copied and pasted a bunch of list items (and part of an essay) rather than addressing the point I was making - which, ironically, is itself part of the point I was making.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 02:37 PM
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89. Thanks for posting.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 07:11 PM
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93. Hi, Jen....
...hope you and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 07:22 PM
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94. Hey, Hep...
Long time no "see." Thanks! Same to you. :hi:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 08:14 PM
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97. YOU LIE!! Didn't you get the memo from DU---he's Bush 3.
Thanks for posting Jen...it's always welcome and as I've said---the left suffers from severe case of Alzheimer's.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 08:39 PM
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98. Kick
:kick:
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 02:25 AM
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105. we need to be reminded of this all the bad news is overwhelming most of us
this is better news, it somewhat offsets the bad.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 12:26 PM
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116. Yes, it always looks the bleakest ...
before it goes pitch black. :eyes:

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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:20 PM
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139. the smiley looks green & nauseated, using people's FEARS WORKS for the
Right, the Left is required to ALLEVIATE THOSE FEARS. Can you hear me now? IF they FAIL the Right WILL get back in. I heard that more people are now actually blaiming Obama for the Reaganites Mess. Doesn't need to be true, only needs to FEEL true. The things the President has already accomplished need strong repeating everywhere Americans go for the news. Or the fear-mongering will tip in the Righties' favor.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 01:00 PM
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124. let's keep this pinned to the top
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:58 PM
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127. AFter reading so many of the OP's opponents on this thread, I would say
I hope you continue to fight like hell for your progressive convictions, your ideals, for it is the way eventually to be proven right in history (as I believe it to be so).

As such, I have a great deal of sympathy for those who are so passionate about what they believe Obama should have been (at this brief time in office...less than one year). I do not always disagree. I supported Bill Clinton but vigorously opposed him on DADT, DOMA and his lack of action on genocide in AFrica. I was proven right and Clinton has retreated and apologized for those stands.

However, we need to balance our need for perfection in what we progressives want from a Democratic president and what we know is a political game to gain time and the approval of the American public. Everybody: sober up and think these things through a little better. We are better off with a Dem pres. than a puke pres. If you don't believe that basic premise then you are really in a faraway place with no anchor to the present reality.

WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO ENGAGE. and we have to face the reality of what our choices actually are. Not what we WANT them to be, WHAT they ARE!

If Dems really want to survive, we will play to win, not to give up and cry about it.

That to me is the choice, and I admit it is not a pretty one. However, it is one I have learned, in my long life, most often comes out best...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:13 PM
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129. And the hard lesson that the now in control Corporate Democrats need to learn is to GIVE
more to us peasants. If they continue to throw the Average American Wage Worker "the scraps" NO AMOUNT of intimidation and bullying will get the democratic voters to the polls.

The Corporate Democrats can BANK on us not supporting them in 2010 and 2012 if they don't become LESS-corporate. :thumbsup:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:25 PM
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130. All the more reason to fight like hell and not give up in a rage.
I know I won't support a corporate Dem. I am looking at my rep Rosa DeLauro, my senators (you know who) and those eyeing both state and national office in 2012. I am doing my homework. And I am and will voice my opinion to all of those.

I believe that time will be on our side. We really have no choice otherwise. It is a classic existential choice: act or do not act. The choice is yours and it is mine.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:14 PM
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132. Amen! I'm on board with you fellow DUer.
:toast:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:44 PM
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137. You know, it's better than staying outside and complaining.
And I have felt it is so much more rewarding. I loved working as a lowly campaign worker in Ned Lamont's campaign because I felt that it really mattered, that I wasn't doing something stupid.

I will pass out flyers at supermarkets or canvass a neighborhood, whatever I can do to talk to the people and engage them. It's better than sitting home and feeling bitter!

Glad you feel that way! Cheers to you too!
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