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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:09 PM
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Every Senator who voted against cloture should NOT be allowed to take part in the debate...
and they shouldn't be allowed to introduce amendments, either. That's all.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:10 PM
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1. Rec'd! They should STFU at this point. No reason for them to
have a damned thing to say.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:13 PM
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4. Thank you...
their wish was to not have ANY debate. So why should they get to stall and introduce amendments for a bill they obviously want nothing to do with?!
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:14 PM
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6. I hope like hell that somebody tells them just that! You didn't want
to debate so sit your ass down and shut the hell up. They aren't going to vote for it anyway. STFU!!!!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:18 PM
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8. If only Harry Reid could make that a rule!
That would be great!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:12 PM
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2. +100
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:14 PM
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5. Thanks, kestrel. n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:12 PM
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3. I'd go further than that.
I'd also exclude some of the ones who voted FOR cloture.

Lieberman
Nelson
Lincoln
Landrieu
Baucus
Conrad

just to name a few examples
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:17 PM
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7. I'd say...
all of those planning on voting against cloture before the final vote shouldn't be allowed to add amendments. Why should they get to ruin a bill then not even vote to allow it to go to an up-or-down vote?
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:32 PM
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9. I've been saying this all week! nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 04:39 PM
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10. GMTA! n/t
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 08:19 AM
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25. ?? What does that mean? nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:57 AM
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26. "Great minds think alike."
:)
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:31 PM
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28. Aaaah... got it! Thanks! nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:00 PM
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11. That is an awesome strategy if you do not want the bill to pass
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 09:01 PM by Freddie Stubbs
Is that what you want?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:38 PM
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21. I want it to pass. And all those who DON'T want it to pass (everyone who voted against
cloture) won't vote for it to pass. I don't get your logic.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:04 PM
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12. What an odd statement.
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 09:04 PM by bigwillq
Run for Senate, then maybe you can tell people what to do. Have any DEMS voted against cloture on other bills? Should they be censored? :shrug: Strange.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:10 PM
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14. What an odd statement
from you. I don't even know what you're trying to say.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:11 PM
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15. So anyone who ever votes against cloture
should have some of their rights as a Senator stripped away? Is that what you're trying to say? If so, odd.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:17 PM
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18. Yes. The rule should be changed so that anyone who does not want to
allow debate should not be allowed to take part in the debate.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:44 PM
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23. That's politics.
You say something or vote one way, and then the next minute you're voting and saying something different. Yes, the rule would need to be changed in order for me to agree with your statement. But since it's not, then I can't agree with it. But I probably wouldn't agree with it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:06 PM
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13. They wanted the discussion stopped so
there's nothing at this point they can add.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:13 PM
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17. Yup.
Seems easy enough to understand. :shrug:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:11 PM
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16. I posted basically the same thing yesterday - if they voted against bring the bill to the floor to
debate it, why should they be allowed to debate it?

It doesn't make sense. But then again, repugs very rarely do.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:19 PM
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19. Some here don't seem to agree that it
makes sense. :shrug:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:24 PM
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20. Haha - I got the same thing yesterday,.
The first few responses were Yeah - I agree, then all the sudden I started getting people posting that I didn't know what I was talking about :shrug: as if I'm not allowed to make an observation and as I have any influence in the Senate - harhar.

Sometimes I feel like people just like to argue no matter what.


I just don't understand how people that don't want to debate healthcare should be allowed to debate healthcare. And I don't understand how anyone can disagree. Oh well. That's DU ;)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:42 PM
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22. Did you start your own thread about it?
If I had seen it, I would've commented on it instead of starting this one.

Yup-that's DU-for better or for WORSE. ;)
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 10:56 PM
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24. Picture a scenario 30 years in the future.
The Democrats only have 40 seats in the Senate. The Christian-Republican Party has 60 seats. Tha Constitution has been altered 10 years ago and Congress is now responsible for education. The CR's want to have Darwinism removed from the National curriculum and Intelligent Design inserted in it's place. The Cloture vote takes place. Predictably the vote was along party lines. The Dems tried to stop the bill by voting against cloture and lost. There is no way that any Democrat is going to vote for this travesty! But, should they at least not try in debate to stall, stop or change the bill to make it more acceptable?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:59 AM
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27. I think they should have their committee chair removed
nuff said!
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