K&R if you'd like a republican president

[uponit7771]

Jus sayin,...Some'ah yaw a trip ...

[AndyA]

1. How about K&R if you'd like an HONEST President who actually

KEEPS HIS PROMISES for a change.

How's that for change? :shrug:

[golddigger]

2. K&R

:thumbsup:

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[uponit7771]

7. Here yah go (link), Obama promise meter says he has for the most part...

Thx

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

[katandmoon]

8. K&R to you. UnRec to the OP.

[Baltoman991]

10. How about you

folks who keep the constant whining about broken promises start listing said broken promises.

It's so easy for you all to spout the bullshit but you never give examples.

BTW, has 8 years passed by already? How can one break promises when one hasn't been on the job for at least one full term yet? You guys are funny. The shape this country was in when it was handed to Obama and you wanted it all fixed on day one. Try a dose of reality.

[firedupdem]

13. +1

This board has taken on a nasty, nasty, tone. uugh..

[uponit7771]

14. EXACLTY!!! K&R this post!!!

[azmouse]

17. Hear, hear!

:thumbsup:

[AndyA]

21. And here come the Obama cheerleaders.

You want examples? How about transparency. Where is it? Haven't seen that so far.

Gay equality. DADT is still in effect. Gay people still are discriminated against in this country.

There are lots more. Take off your rose colored glasses and look around.

At the rate Obama is going, he won't have 8 years to fix things.

[Baltoman991]

23. And I ask again,

has 4 years passed yet? Because he hasn't kissed your ass from day one you want to spread the right wing meme of "broken promises".

Let me ask, have you ever heard of this little thing called Congress? Judging by your laying it all on Obama I do kind of doubt you know about them.

But see, this is how it works. Obama isn't King. Obama isn't a dictator. Congress needs to put some fucking bills on his desk to repeal DADT. I know I know, he can sign a piece of paper and poof, it will be gone but that's a temporary fix that can be over-ridden by the next Repuke President. You want DADT repealed, get off your ass and quit laying it at Obamas feet and let Congress know to get him a damn bill.

BTW, I don't wear rose colored glasses. I live in the real world and I know that Obama or any other Democratic President wasn't going to be able to fix the shithole handed to him in 8 years time, let alone less than 1 year.

[uponit7771]

24. I linked the poster to a promise meter and he hasn't come back on the facts...

...some of these guys are gettin freeperish (aka fact haters)

[bikingaz]

48. I'm with you. They're too busy drinking the kool aid.

They'll come around with the rest of us dissenters who have been trying to make him accountable.

[AndyA]

33. Transparency doesn't depend on Congress.

Investigating the many crimes of Bushco doesn't need Congress.

Obama jumped in and rescued the rich bankers, and to date has allowed the average American to wither. He's done very little to get health care FOR ALL passed. What is he doing to create jobs? He's apparently going to get around to that next month, almost a year after taking office.

Yes, he was handed a pile of crap. He's done a lot of things that aren't as important as the things I mentioned, and there are a lot more examples. People are losing their jobs, their homes, and they're dying. What else, really, is more important? War? Actions say more than a lot of talk.

[HipChick]

35. Well said...too many people are unrealistic time-wise

[treestar]

27. When did Obama promise to create equality for gay people within a year?

That's up to the country, too. A President can't just decree that. That's a cultural shift. It can't be just put on one individual.

You'd be angry at Lincoln because there was still slavery in late 1861.

[AndyA]

34. You can phrase a question to put any kind of spin on it you want.

Obama made promises to gay people. Discrimination impacts their lives every single day.

I guess if it doesn't impact you--personally--then it isn't that important. That's what the Republicans think too. :eyes:

[HughMoran]

54. Since you used the word "cheerleaders" to describe those who would support a Democratic President

...on a Democratic site AND you haven't pointed to a single promise that he's broken, I must now assume that you're an uninformed fit-thrower and must thusly toss you onto the pile of other bomb-tossers who are filled with bile, yet not one iota of substance. Good riddance hate filled person.

[HughMoran]

53. I asked the same below

:shrug: don't expect an honest or non-attack oriented answer.

[Cha]

22. We have one..I don't care what

you and your posse of fail are pushin.

[Hippo_Tron]

38. I think the last one of those we had was James K Polk

And frankly I don't think he was all that great of a President. Getting politicians to keep their promises is more about expecting realistic things from politicians than expressing disappointment that they don't keep unrealistic promises that they made on the campaign trail.

[MissDeeds]

41. +1 n/t

[HughMoran]

52. Curious if you have a list of promises he has broken

I know he's behind schedule on pulling out of Iraq, so there's one. What else?

[LeftishBrit]

4. Wish I could un-rec THAT idea a million times...

urrrrrrrrggggghhhhhhh at the very thought!

[uponit7771]

5. Kickin jus to make sure....yaw ah trip jack...

[uponit7771]

9. COME ON!! Some'ah yaw Obama haters gotta get to kickin this post!!!

[LoZoccolo]

11. lol n/t

[Naturyl]

15. A Republican president was not the only alternative to Obama.

That's why we had something called "primaries." And during those primaries, there WAS a candidate who actually represented the views of most DUers. But we were barraged with the term "unelectable" from every side, and went with one of the anointed ones.

[uponit7771]

18. Now back on planet Earth.....Come on, we know this but he's what we got and he's movable....

...and will listen to his base if the organization is there.

[Naturyl]

19. Agreed, he's obviously movable

And so far, he's been moved totally in the wrong direction.

[sohndrsmith]

36. But that, actually, isn't what the OP posits: would you rather an R as President?

I get your argument about primaries, but when each party secured the nomination, from that point on, those were our only choices for president.

Actually, your comment makes more sense because the OP said "Republican", generically, as if there were more than one ticket to vote on for that end.

Far as I can recall, we had the choice between voting for Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin for president last November.

There is nothing Obama could do that would make me wish McCain... and... Palin (Palin?) had won instead. No bloody way. : )

I'm not happy with several things Obama has/hasn't done, but I still believe there is no one better to be at the helm, given the near-insurmountable level of crises that exploded in late 2008 or already existed that the previous president created and then couldn't manage to solve or improve.

[Hippo_Tron]

39. Dennis Kucinich can't even win in his home state (which is a crucial swing state)

Dennis Kucinich isn't unelectable because people label him that way. He's unelectable because he has time and again demonstrated that he is incapable of having a broad enough appeal to win elections outside of Cleveland. By the way, people labeled Obama as unelectable as well.

[dccrossman]

16. Kickin'

You know, just 'cause

[uponit7771]

20. K Obama haters, yaw gettin yah azz's kicked!!! Bettah go get some'ah yah homie casuse it looks

....like folk like Obama around here.

PUMA in the house?
Freepers?

helllllllllllo?

[HopeOverFear]

25. lol

[AllentownJake]

55. Your posts are getting more and more ridiculous as time marches forward

The next one should just be grunts.

[uponit7771]

26. You know, I'm just not getting the response from the haters that their top post would portray

[spoony]

28. Then maybe your premise is wrong. (Hint: it is) nt

[treestar]

29. There are some who would, since it is easier to be negative

It's easier to criticize than do anything positive. So getting Huckabee for president will be as much fun as having the Chimpereror was.

[zalinda]

30. No, I don't want a Republican President

but I DO want a Democratic President, and I think Obama falls very short of that. He is definitely no FDR.

zalinda

[uponit7771]

31. FDR had an 80% dem congress, perspective is important no? Thx

[Milo_Bloom]

32. We basically have one right now.

It's just not the crazy foaming at the mouth republicanism we have seen the last few election cycles.

[uponit7771]

40. Yeah, Obama is such a religious zealot and warmonger and hater of civil rights

[Milo_Bloom]

46. Thanks for making my point.

Obama is acting the part of the typical moderate republican.. NOT the crazy ones we have seen of the last few election cycles.

Yeesh, this would be so much easier if people just read before responding.

[IndianaGreen]

37. Is there a difference between a GOPer and a DINO?

[onenote]

42. depends on who you are defining as a dino

in some cases, barely. in other cases, quite a large difference

[uponit7771]

43. Anyone who doesn't go 1000% with the the progressive agenda is a sellout to some

[IndianaGreen]

47. Take former DLC Evan Bayh, a hero of yours I am sure

He is opposed to single payer and to a vigorous public option. Bayh's wife sits on the board of WellPoint, a major health insurer, and the Bayhs hold stock in Big Pharma and Big Evil Insurer.

He is 100% against the progressive agenda, and some pukes like yourself would probably expect me to vote for that POS.

[onenote]

49. and how well does your other senator -- the actual repub -- do with the progressive agenda

Bayh isn't progressive. That's a given.

But pretending he's indistinguishable from a repub is a laugh.

Lugar is considered an almost moderate repub by current standards, yet in virtually every category, he ranks far below Bayh in terms of interest group ratings (first number is Bayh, second is Lugar; ratings are 2007 or 2008):

ACU 29 63
ACLU 55 30
ADA 95 45
CDF 100 80
HRC 90 60
LCV 73 53
NAACP 93 47
NARAL 100 40
SEIU 83 50

[IndianaGreen]

50. There is no difference betwen Lugar and Bayh

Bayh is as much a homophobe as Lugar. Bayh opposes full equality for LGBTs.

The "lesser of two evils" is still evil.

[onenote]

51. I will take the"evil" senator's vote to kill the same sex marriage amendment

over the other "evil" senator's vote in favor. I'll take the "evil" senator's vote for Lily Ledbetter pay act over the other "evil" senator's vote against.

You can choose to live in a black and white world, but don't be surprised when that doesn't turn out all that well

[IndianaGreen]

56. It is a black and white world: the corporations versus the people!

and those politicians that side with the corporations against the people must be defeated, regardles of what disguise they are using for party label.

[donheld]

44. Some'ah yaw a stupid

[LWolf]

45. I want a left-of-center president.

I don't care what party he or she comes from.

I care about issues, and I want a president who will move those issues forward to benefit people, not corporations.