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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 09:06 PM
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Palin quizzes Billy Graham about Bible's view of Middle East
Be afraid, very afraid!

:scared:

Palin quizzes Billy Graham about Bible's view of Middle East

By Tim Funk | The Charlotte Observer


Sarah Palin, the hottest name in the Republican Party, took a detour from her book-signing tour Sunday to dine with Billy Graham at his mountaintop home in Montreat, N.C.

"He's followed her career and likes her strong stand on faith," said son Franklin Graham, who was present for the 2 1/2-hour get-together. "Daddy feels God was using her to wake America up."

The former Alaska governor and 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate told Billy Graham about how she came to faith in God as a girl in Bible camp.

She quizzed him on the presidents he's known and wanted his take on what the Bible says about Israel, Iran and Iraq, Franklin Graham reported.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/256/story/79317.html?storylink=omni_popular
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 09:28 PM
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1. Sounds like Franklin did all the talking
Sarah meets Billy Graham, check, but it sure sounds like Billy's asshole son is managing the message.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 09:29 PM
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2. It is two bad a meteor didn't fall on that house with those three monsters in it..
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:06 PM
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11. +1
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chemenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 09:40 PM
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3. "She quizzed him on the presidents he's known ... "
It would appear that the Rev'runt Graham has no regard for confidentiality. And we won't even mention how disgustingly low-class Sarah Failin' is.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 09:44 PM
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4. It *really* isn't a good thing at all for Palin and Franklin to scheme together.
Not a good thing at all. :(
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 09:49 PM
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5. I'd like to hear what Frank Schaeffer has to say
about what kind of "Christian" frank graham is.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 09:57 PM
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6. In Nixon tapes, Billy Graham refers to 'synagogue of Satan' (6/24/2009)
Edited on Mon Nov-23-09 09:58 PM by Scurrilous
<snip>

"A 1973 conversation between President Nixon and evangelist Billy Graham about Jews, laden with critical references including a Biblical verse on the "synagogue of Satan," has put the aging, frail Graham back in unwelcome headlines.

The conversation is part of newly-released secretly recorded tapes from the Nixon presidency, from the U.S. National Archives in College Park, Md., and the Richard Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda, Calif. A sampling of more than 150 hours of tape recordings and 30,000 pages of documents from two months in 1973 were made public Tuesday culled from 4,000 hours of taped meetings and phone calls in a two-year period.

An earlier release of tapes in 2002 shocked fans of Graham, who is heard agreeing with Nixon as the president rails against liberal Jews' political activism and media clout. Graham tells Nixon how Jews befriend him but adds, "They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country."

On Wednesday, as he did in 2002, Graham's longtime spokesman A. Larry Ross said Graham has never been an anti-Semite and that the remarks should be understood in context, as part of a conversation with the president."

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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:23 PM
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14. I remember when Billy Graham was respected by most people.
but that was before we knew the way he really felt about a lot of things. And by we, I mean a lot more people than just the liberal Jews of whom he spoke to Nixon about, and by things I mean a lot more than just the political activism of the liberal Jews. ("They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country.")

Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing. :mad:

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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:03 PM
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7. I thought he was dead.
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Papagoose Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:15 PM
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13. so did I!
that's why I found the story very confusing at first.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:49 PM
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8. You know they'll let ANYONE read the Bible Sarah.......
.... ok, nevermind, I see the problem.

"read" ..... my mistake.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:53 PM
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9. no no no, she reads everything, every book, tabloid, magazine, phamplet, track, note card - Sarah's
read it! It's just she's read so much that when that mean woman Couric sprang that GOTCHA question on that rare dove, well, she just froze up, cuz how does one name everybook? You just have to say I read them all!
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 03:11 AM
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10. The blind leading the blind...
Yeah, neither of them are credible on anything involving a bible.

Popular, yes, credible, no.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:07 PM
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12. When grifters meet
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:47 PM
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15. Graham sure wasn't hurting financially.
Between 1998 and 2002 Billy Graham received a 100 % salary raise for working less hours. As CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, he collects an annual salary of $115,500, plus a $38,500 housing allowance. The organization and its affiliates brought in $139- million in contributions and revenue last year reported the St. Petersburg Times during the Billy Graham Crusade in Tampa in 1998. … In 2000, Graham was paid $197,911, plus benefits and an expense account, for his work as chairman of his ministry, according to the organization's Form 990. Of course graham doesn’t release his personal income tax since this might just be pocket change.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:24 PM
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16. Excellent! A Palin thread on which I can post today's
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 02:26 PM by Blue_In_AK
Palin news from Alaska (I really hate to start my own).

Celtic Diva has an informative post up today regarding SP's Ft. Bragg visit and the possibility that the Ft. Hood appearance will be cancelled.

http://divasblueoasis.com/diary/936/palin-flies-on-samaritans-purse-planeentourage-begs-for-bashes-obama-at-ft-bragg


It seems that outrage across the country over the behavior of Palin and her entourage at Ft. Bragg has shown itself in stories on military-themed websites.

For example, the AP story on Palin's Ft. Bragg visit appears on a website widely-read by our nation's military, Military.com, and they titled the piece "Some Anti-Obama Tones to Palin Bragg Visit." The comments are dominated by folks who are incensed by the behavior at the event.

For example:




I wonder what would have happened if someone wore an impeach Bush/Cheney shirt when he was our CINC?


Perhaps an even bigger indicator of the ripple effect after Palin's visit can be seen in a comment on this blog. The story below includes contact numbers to Public Affairs on Fort Hood, including the Col. who is the Public Affairs Officer. I requested that folks contact them and express (respectfully) their feelings. Reader Pearlygirl took me up on that:




response from Ft Hood

I just called Col. Danner. He was very polite and also expressed that he has received many concerns about this book signing. It was set up before the recent shootings but it is being rethought. It was worth calling.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

by: pearlygirl @ Tue Nov 24, 2009 at 05:04:18 AM AKST


I thank pearlygirl and all who have called. I'm following up with a phone call to Col. Danner to try and get more of an explanation.

<snip>




On a slightly different note, John Bitney, SP's first legislative liaison, is not at all pleased with the way he was depicted in the book and has gone public in a long front-page story in today's Anchorage Daily News:

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/1025305.html



Portrayal in Palin book irritates former aide
'PILLORIED': Former legislative director Bitney says she turned him into "the big bad wolf."

By SEAN COCKERHAM
scockerham@adn.com

Published: November 23rd, 2009 09:52 PM
Last Modified: November 24th, 2009 08:49 AM

Former Gov. Sarah Palin's book, "Going Rogue," blames her first legislative director for moves early in her term that helped poison her relationship with state lawmakers. But the ex-aide, John Bitney, calls Palin's account a fabrication and said he wishes his former boss would leave him alone.

"I'm just pilloried right and left and turned into the big bad wolf here for stuff I didn't do," said Bitney, who is now an aide to Valdez Republican Rep. John Harris. "It's like I'm this fictional character that she's decided to make me out to be this sort of incompetent slob."

<snip>

Bitney joins a list of people slammed in the book who are calling it fiction, including McCain's former campaign manager, Steve Schmidt. Bitney, though, has a far deeper relationship with Palin than the others. He was a high school classmate of Palin's from Wasilla who played a key role as an adviser in her successful 2006 campaign for governor.

<snip>

Bitney said he tried to be fair to Palin when national media kept "crawling up my backside" over the past year to interview him about her. But the book is too much, he said.

"I've had it. Enough. Just enough; leave me alone," he said.



Shannyn Moore's entire show, where she interviews Bitney, Andrew Halcro and Anne Kilkenney, is up at her website here: http://shannynmoore.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/moore-up-north-2/ It's very funny.
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