whats happening to gallup? 48 today... i am worried.

[ind_thinker2]

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. Your concern is appreciated

[timeforpeace]

45. Celebrate. This may be the good old days compared to the numbers a month or two from now.

[Aramchek]

2. thanks but no thanks on that Concern to nowhere!

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[saltpoint]

4. I'd ignore the alleged downward trend in the president's

approval ratings.

He's very much in the ball game and appears to me to be in a strong position for re-election.

Were the major opposing party to actally field a sentient being to challenge him, there'd at least be a contest.

But there's no evidence whatsoever that this will occur.

[jpak]

5. What's Palin's Gallup at?

Or any other stupid GOP presidential wannabee

concern noted

[timeforpeace]

46. Rasmussen has her at 51% and Obama at 49%.

[firedupdem]

6. After working for gallup a few weeks, I realized it's no big deal...

it's all about who answers the poll on a given day. Some days, I would only reach elderly folks and teabaggers. Unemployed people on medicaid with a high school education or less, and sometimes just blatant racist fucks.

[timeforpeace]

19. It was a big deal here this past year. Now it's below 50% and no big deal anymore.

[firedupdem]

25. Yup..that's why I'm glad I had the experience of polling folks for

myself. I will never let a poll drive me nuts again, or make me overly optimistic.

[BzaDem]

26. That's not entirely the case.

The unweighted data certainly depends on who answers the poll on a given day. But they take that into account by weighting the data. If the proportions answering the phone of different genders, races, ethnicity, education, etc. do not correspond with current demographic data, they adjust the results for that. This is of course subject to error. But because of these corrections, the results depend on who answers the phone a lot less than one would think.

[tblue]

7. I think it's a good thing. It's gonna push jobs to the top of the priority list.

It's okay, really. Don't worry.

[saltpoint]

9. Very good point. The jobs stimulus is now required and certainly

the president would have public opinion at his back for job creation.

In a manner of speaking, Obama is one jobs stimulus bill away from a resounding second term.

[prolesunited]

8. Oh noes!

We elected the wrong president. :eyes:

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[FrenchieCat]

10. Then go and hide.

Come back in 2 years, and then we will talk.

It's people like you who do exactly what they are expected to do
when the going gets rough.

You get worried and scared, instead of being strong and determined.

If we were all like you, we'd be simply totally fucked.

[Warpy]

11. Gallup is weighted in favor of the GOP

meaning they assume there are as many GOPs out there as Democrats, an erroneous assumption, and their sample reflects that erroneous assumption.

Garbage in, garbage out.

However, I'd peg his support at barely above 50%.

People are losing hope that meaningful health insurance reform will be enacted and they're blaming Obama along with Congress. In addition, the Main Street economy is still teetering on the brink of another Great Depression with no relief in sight, and he's being blamed for that, too.

It's a shame, but that's how it works.

[mcablue]

30. Is there a link for the party ID that Gallup used for this poll?

Or you're just assuming that.

[jenmito]

32. Here's a link showing Gallup's party ID polled for their "majority of the country is pro-life" poll

which skewed the results. They polled 32% Repubs., the same % of Dems. they polled, thus the phony results: http://www.pollster.com/blogs/new_gallup_has_pid_tied_yep_it.php

[Cha]

35. Thanks, jen..

<snip>

"The Gallup Poll is without doubt one of the most influential media polls in the country, and as such one would hope that its analysis of public opinion would be objective. Usually that is the case. But on the current subject of healthcare reform, especially its most recent article that presents "key findings from Gallup surveys" on the issue, the post reads like a conservative manifesto for delaying legislation until it succumbs to a slow death.

Having worked at Gallup for 13 years until 2006, I know that everyone who writes the stories makes a valiant effort to be objective. Sometimes, however, because of a blind spot or perhaps personal preferences, an article is not as balanced as it should be. That certainly is the case with Gallup's recent post, "Americans on Healthcare Reform: Top 10 Takeaways."


<more>
http://www.beaconbroadside.com/broadside/2009/08/david-w-moore-gallups-anti-health-care-bias.html

[jenmito]

36. Hey, Cha...

thanks for the article. It's amazing that Gallup is taken as gospel in the "liberal" media even though the proof of bias is out there.

[Cha]

38. The "media" is too busy being biased to care.

[mcablue]

40. All that shows is that Gallup had an outlier poll 5 months ago

Any data about today's poll?

Here's a Gallup poll, more recent than the May poll you cited, showing a Democratic lead of 48%-42% over Republicans in the Party ID department. http://www.gallup.com/poll/123362/Independents-Lean-GOP-Party-Gap-Smallest-Since-05.aspx

[jenmito]

43. The "pro-lifers" cite that poll to this day!

Did you read Cha's post below mine re: Gallup? It's just more proof that they're doing more than posting "outlier" polls. They seem to have a RW-leaning bias. I don't know about today's poll. But neither do you. And the evidence points to Gallup now being a right-leaning pollster.

[TomCADem]

13. * yawn* - Unemployment Needs To Drop, Then Approval Goes Up - That Simple - Reagan

Look at Reagan. His approval slipped below when unemployment rose from a steady 7 percent to a mere 8 percent. With President Obama, the unemployment rate was shooting upwards the moment he walked into office.

Reagan's approval continued to drop all the way to 35% in 1983, before rising just before his election, as unemployment finally dipped under 10 percent three years into office. Now, Republicans worship Reagan as a god.

So, if President Obama were judged against the low threshold applied to Reagan, he just needs to bring unemployment down under 10 percent in 2011, and he achieves legend status.

:sarcasm:

Actually, if unemployment dropped, the corporate media would just say that all of President Obama's initiatives had nothing to do with it. Yup, if President simply let the banks fail, GM and Chryster fail, and state and local governments fail, we would have just been fine.

[secondwind]

14. My dear ind_thinker2........

If you calculate the fact that we are in a deep, global recession, with two wars going on, and unemployment at or above 10%.....,

Wouldn't you agree that a favorable rating of close to 50% IS A DAMN GOOD THING???? !

I mean, really.


GET A GRIP! :eyes:

[saltpoint]

15. Rick Santorum is making a couple trips out to Iowa, the first-up caucus

state for 2012.

Very frankly I don't think we have too much to worry about with people like that in the Republican mix.

Run down the list of available candidates the GOP is doomed to choose from for their 2012 ticket and tell me which of them among the thieving and the clueless and the floridly insane you feel constitutes a significant threat to Barack Obama.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

23. Santorum - you gotta be kidding me. How does getting CRUSHED in a Senate race,

not to mention in the type of state the GOP has to be able to win to win national elections in, make for a reasonable presidential candidate resume? :shrug: It is to laugh.



Best. Political. Picture. Ever.

[saltpoint]

24. We agree.

Again.

[mrcheerful]

16. Polls are a joke

After seeing a pollster who got a homophobic, anti immigration, anti health care, wing nut to agree giving gay illegals health care was better then having them show up in ER's, which drove up the cost of health care in that hospital which cost the wing nut more out of his pocket. Well lets just say polls amount to how a questions asked and who ask the question.

[Ikonoklast]

17. Do shadows make you jump?

What about bugs? Bugs scare you?

Men with beards?



Concern duly noted.

Enjoy your stay, and so forth.

[saltpoint]

18. Huckabee presents a formidable challenge in that he may be able

to rally the nutbags away from Palin and Santorum and pretend publicly to be halfway civilized (as opposed to the raving mad slobbering Far Right monster he likely would be if he were elected) so as not to scare off the "mainstream" Republican primary voters.

That would win him Iowa. He only barely won it last time. Sam Brownback, who's at least as bad as Huckabee if not worse, almost upset him in Iowa.

Huckabee looked halfway potent as a primary candidate in a spectacularly pathetic field of Republicans. And even then he could not defeat a hapless old fool like John McCain.

Currently, IMO, Huckabee's the best they've got, and that ain't sayin' much.

[timeforpeace]

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[clarence swinney]

21. GALLUP IS GOP

Family sold to a Republican two years ago

I note lean to gop in 2008 election

Rasmusson owned by Murdock?

[slackmaster]

22. Why is that a problem for you?

Seriously, what difference does it make?

[MineralMan]

27. Your sincere concern is noted.

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[impik]

29. Why are you worried? I thought

that this is a cause for celebration here.

[ClarkUSA]

31. He's closely tracking Reagan's early numbers at the moment and is doing better than Clinton & Bush.

"And though the younger Bush and Bill Clinton had significantly lower ratings.. Clinton had sunk to 41% approval — both won second terms...Obama's approval rating is well above Clinton... Ronald Reagan may provide a closer parallel to Obama. Both took office as the nation's economy was in perilous times. Reagan was at 60% at six months, but his standing slipped below 50% by the end of his first year in office as the jobless rate swelled.

It would take two years and economic recovery before a majority of Americans would approve of his presidency again."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm

[smalll]

33. The dark green line and the light green line are getting scarily close --

Don't Cross The Streams!!!



http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx

[HughMoran]

34. OH KNOW!!1!!! THIS IS HUGH!!1!!!11!!1

:rofl:

What a joke this is. Revealed.

[elleng]

37. What's HAPPENING to gallup happened a long time ago.

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[PopSixSquish]

41. That's What Obama Gets for Bowing to the Emperor of Japan

He should have thrown up on him or better yet, given him a neck massage. His approval ratings would then be at 105.678% by golly...

:hide:

[Kingofalldems]

42. Looks like the OP pulled a Pawlenty and fled the scene

[dionysus]

44. suuuuuure you are...

:rofl: