So, is it true , that the HCR Bill only needs 51 votes next time it's voted on after debate is over?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

I heard someone(didn't catch his name) on a talking head that this is the case.

[harun]

1. It might need 60 to end debate, then 50 votes after to pass (Biden breaks tie).

Not sure though.

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. lots lots more to go - loads of amendments, each with 60 votes...

best to go to Talking Points Memo and read the various articles on next steps

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/senate-agrees-to-debate-health-care-bill.php?ref=fpa

[get the red out]

3. If it were a Republican bill

I think it would only need 51 votes, maybe less since they are the "party of GOD". :sarcasm:

[freddie mertz]

4. 60 votes needed to end debate and move to the vote.

And Nelson and Lieberman have said they will not vote for a bill with a PO.

Not that we really have one in either of the bills, but even that measly remnant is too much for these so-called public servants.

[Pirate Smile]

5. No, we need 60 to stop debate and have a final vote which would only need 50 + Biden

[IndianaGreen]

6. Public Option In Name Only

and that piece of crap may yet be scrapped to appease Lieberman and the two tarts.

One thing that will remain are the mandates, and the taxing of hard-won union health benefits as "Cadillac" plans. The working class will punish you for the mandates and the "Cadillac Tax" at the polls.

[vaberella]

7. How many times will you post the same thing? n/t

[IndianaGreen]

8. Because it is the goddamned truth--it is a Public Option In Name Only

Put the Kool-Aid down!

[uponit7771]

9. Only if the haters pick up some moderate perspective, you would've hated medicare and ...

...social security when it passed too

[IndianaGreen]

10. If these crop of Democrats had their hand at Medicare, it would have been privatized

It is your crap of corporatists that have turned the Democratic Party into an arm of Wall Street.

[ClarkUSA]

12. You mean the DLC "corporatists" that came into dominance under their hero, Pres. Clinton?

Those corporatists? Funny how this fact never interfered with your Bubba admiration. :eyes:

[Aramchek]

13. she likes banging her head against the wall, too

[ClarkUSA]

11. Bullshit. The PO will be administered by HHS who'll be negotiating rates and will offer choice.

As for the working class, they'll cheer the fact that they don't have to worry about pre-existing conditions or being dumped by
insurance companies anymore (unless they commit fraud).