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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 04:59 PM Original message |
A stupid Senate procedural question please, we still need 60 to close the debate? Right? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Right. And if they get 60 to cut off debate, THEN they can pass the bill with 50+1. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It's a wonder anything gets done with these rules. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I know. And if we lose seats in '10, the Dems. better play as much hardball as the |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I've heard so many say "Congress moves very slowly - that's the way it is." -- |
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Garam_Masala (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. You will be the first to cry if repugs someday become majority |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You're right. The Republicans only needed 51 votes. Democrats need 60 votes when they "control" |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Or, they let it go to a final vote, vote against the bill, and the bill passes. n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Lieberman and Lincoln both say they will not LET it go to a final vote if a public option remains in |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Ah, missed their statements. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. No problem. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. and Reid said yesterday "no reconciliation" does anyone know if that means ever or just today's vote |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I don't know. He has also said, in the past, that he WOULD use reconciliation as a last resort- |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. This article shows the confusion: "Reid Rules Out Reconciliation? |
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peaches2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Will Reid demand a real filibuster |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I hope not. It can end up making them look stronger |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Reid and Lieberman and Lincoln are possibly saying this for leverage |
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housewolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. There are 3 points (Procedural Votes) at which we need 60 votes |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. thanks housewolf. n/t |
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peaches2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. That's correct |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. well, earlier |
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peaches2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Like Hatch said, "It will be a Holy War". |
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Garam_Masala (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Thanks for that explanation +1 |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. And if the Republicans actually filibuster the Democrats can keep the bill on the floor .... |
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