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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:09 PM
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Someone posted earlier that we need to have a Primary challenger for Obama
They we're told that while it would be nice to have a more progressive President, we can't get such a progressive elected. First, let me say that I don't agree with putting up a primary challenger to President Obama - he will have gotten the memo following the midterms and he is politically savvy enough to know how he needs to change, and change he will. But, it got me to thinking - I know that Dean got sunk by the MSM playing that stupid ass scream over and over, but nowadays, he's a God to us progressives. I wonder if he might be a contender again, not necessarily in 2012 but in the future. What say y'all?
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:16 PM
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1. Did we learn nothing in 1980
What was the result Reagan...

How did that turn out?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:20 PM
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2. To be fair, half these people proposing a challenge weren't born..
in 1980. The other half are never satisfied. They're not satisfied when a repuke is in the WH, and they're not satisfied with Dems either.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:38 PM
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6. Civil Right activist were not happy with FDR
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 09:39 PM by AllentownJake
Abe Lincoln had problems with government war profiting and corruption that culminated in the Grant Administration and lots of people were not "happy" about it.

Despite signing the civil rights legislation in 1968, MLK bucked LBJ on Vietnam.

Women's right activist were not satisfied till they won. The ACLU or the Southern Poverty Law center is never happy.

Just to give you some historical perspective here. There are people in life that will never be satisfied. Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Kennedy, LBJ, Carter, Clinton were never really happy people about the state of the world. Carter and Clinton still aren't, that is why despite their faults they still try to change it.

We are a nation of fighters, we don't "settle down" and generally that is a very good thing.

It's what the entire term, progressive implies, duh.

When people get happy, they are about to lose everything.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:29 PM
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3. It's 2 years away
We could have a GOP congress sworn in, in 2011 and Barack might suddenly become every democrats overnight hero again. :shrug:
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:34 PM
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4. Someone? More like 50% for a primary versus 45% against in this DU poll:
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:37 PM
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5. It is clear those unhappy with the democratic candidate in 2008 want a do-over.
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 09:40 PM by Lord Helmet
They are welcome to give it a shot in 2012.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:06 PM
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7. I'd love to see Dean
be a contender again.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:15 PM
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8. I'd vote for Dean, but I hope no one challenges Obama in '12.
Gee...It would be so much simpler if Obama would just fricking take up the progressive mantel. Not necessarily on everything, but on _something_, goodness please dagnabbit holy cow give be a break.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:05 PM
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9. Primary your sitting President? That will guarantee a Republican win
GUARANTEE.
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