Reuters versus Venanalysis versus Chavez, you decide

[Bacchus39]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooVlAa3Y53s&feature=channel

"if the "oligarchy" is returned to the government, maybe I'll employ the tanks from the brigade..."


I'd say Reuters got it right and Venanalsys is spinning away feverishly. what a surprise!!!!!


ain't it a bitch when Chavez screws up your defense of him?????

[dipsydoodle]

1. Don't..............

[Billy Burnett]

2. So, if a coup is staged with foreign gov support the military shouldn't defend the legitimate gov?

I don't get it. The military should just sit back and allow the legal government to be attacked and/or overthrown?

Considering the outcome of the last US gov supported coup of the legal Ven gov, I think the military showed great restraint. As far as I know, Ven doesn't have a posse comitatus act.

[Bacchus39]

3. an election result unfavorable to Chavez is a coup?

that's what Hugo was referring to.

[Billy Burnett]

4. I don't think that's what he was referring to.

The return of the oligarchy he was referring to was another US staged/backed coup.

[Bacchus39]

5. he was referring to the government in Carabobo and says so

"if they return to the government, perhaps I will take out the tanks from the brigage, to protect the people of Carabobo." there is no reference to deposing Chavez or the military acting against him.

since Chavez is never wrong, that means you are. and VenezuelanAnalysis didn't report his words accurately.

you heard the crowd cheering, you and others are unworthy. Chavez said what he said, how dare Venanalysis and you try to hide what he said.

[Billy Burnett]

6. Context.

I'm not going to get into one of your pissing contests, although, coming from you, I find accusations of lack of accuracy somewhat amusing.

Your thread title asked readers to decide.

OK. I've decided.


on edit - Oh yeah. You are right. Those of us who are the "others" you refer to are indeed worthy of a representative government rather than an oligarchy. :thumbsup:

[Bacchus39]

7. ok, good for you. the "oligarchy" is already in power in Carabobo

and Chavez said he may take out the tanks if the same government is returned. nothing to dispute here. Reuters got it right. Venanalysis one would think would be 100% behind Chavez and not attempt to hide his words.

you may want to find a news source that does't attempt to mask Chavez words. or you can take Chavez at his word. that's what a good revolutionary would do.

[EFerrari]

8. LOL

[subsuelo]

9. Thanks -- I love selective quoting

the neatest part is - you can do it to anyone, and fit nearly any agenda! Thanks!

[Bacchus39]

10. you're welcome, at least we vindicated Reuters and showed Venanalysis

to misrepresent the facts.

[subsuelo]

11. Only in your mind

the rest of us, lacking an agenda to cherry pick quotes that portray the progressive leaders of the Latin American social revolution as anti-democratic commie dictators, will see through the disinformation.

[Bacchus39]

12. Chavez said what he said, Reuters reported what he said

Venanalysis did NOT report what he said. its all right there. if you really supported Chavez you wouldn't be denying what he said and would agree with him that if the election turns out different than what he wants, then military action may be called for.

[subsuelo]

13. I guess when you have an agenda it's easy to see your view.

I get it from that perspective. Chavez surely is an evil dictator commie. He hates democracy and freedom.

Now that I see the agenda, I see how that selective quote nicely fits in. We should do something about that guy, huh.

[Bacchus39]

14. you see the agenda of confirming the Reuters reporting, good.

that is a start. I don't think there is a need to "do anything about that guy". Like I've posted before, Chavez is irrelevant. Wild accusations that the US is going to invade or that the US is going to assassinate him no longer have any meaning, not that they ever did.

we buy their oil. relations are already improving with Latin America with the election of President Obama. nothing else needs to be done. I'll continue to report accurate info and point out the stupidity of Chavez. I guess that is an agenda.