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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:27 AM
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Intriguing item about Hillary and Hugo in Brasilia today
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 03:02 AM by rabs

Below is from the Jornal do Brasil of Rio de Janeiro. Do not know if it has been reported by the English-language media.

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Um dos ausentes no coquetel foi o presidente da Venezuela, Hugo Chávez. De acordo com assessores, o venezuelano embarca ainda hoje, por volta das 20h, para Caracas.
(One of those absent at the cocktail was the president of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez. According to aides, the Venezuelan was leaving today, about 8 p.m., for Caracas.


Na cerimônia no Planalto, Chávez conversou por cerca de 15 minutos com a secretária de Estado dos Estados Unidos, Hillary Clinton. Segundo assessores, o venezuelano chegou a ceder a sua vez na fila de cumprimentos a Hillary.
(At the Planalto (presidential palace) ceremony, Chavez spoke for close to 15 minutes with the secretary of state of the United States, Hillary Clinton. According to aides, the Venezuelan even ceded to Hillary his place in the line to congratulate (Dilma).)
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That is interesting. Maybe it will filter out what Hugo and Hillary talked about (Larry Palmer??). Fifteen minutes at a reception is a long time, diplomatically speaking. Have not seen yet any pix of Hillary and Hugo.

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Pix




How many presidents can still travel in an open-air car (Rolls Royce, no less)





(edit to fix typo -- Hillary











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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:48 AM
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1. Hugo and Hil (pix)


Just found these on Telesur





According to Telesur story, the meeting was brief
Meeting was informal and cordial
Before returning to Caracas, Chavez confirmed at the airport that they had talked about current issues.
(Chavez) "We greeted each other, I think she was entering the salon, she had a spontaneous smile, and I greeted her with with the same, it was a cordial moment, we talked about two or three current issues."

The presidents of Chile, Pinera and Colombia, Santos, joined the conversation.

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El presidente de Venezuela, Hugo Chávez, y la secretaria de Estado estadounidense, Hillary Clinton, sostuvieron un breve encuentro este sábado en Brasilia, al margen del acto de investidura de Dilma Rousseff como nueva presidenta brasileña.

De acuerdo información del sitio web de la Radio Nacional de Venezuela (RNV), el encuentro entre Chávez y Clinton, realizado en el Palacio de Planalto (sede el Gobierno brasileño), fue informal pero ameno.

La conversación se produjo minutos después de que esta la presidenta brasileña, Dilma Roussef, recibiera la banda presidencial de manos del jefe de Estado saliente, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

Antes de su regreso a Venezuela, en declaraciones a la prensa desde el Aeropuerto Internacional Presidente Juscelino Kubitscheck, en Brasilia, Chávez confirmó que había sostenido una conversación con Clinton, durante la cual abordaron temas puntuales.

"Nos saludamos. Ella creo que estaba entranda al salón, tenía una sonrisa muy espontánea y yo le saludé con la misma efusividad (...) Fue un rato ameno, hablamos una dos o tres cosas puntuales", dijo el mandatario venezolano..

También se integraron a la reunión lso presidentes de Chile, Sebastián Piñera, y de Colombia, Juan Manuel Santos.


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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:47 AM
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2. Meeting between Chavez and Dilma Rouseff Cancelled
A more interesting issue was the sudden departure of the Venezuelan president. He didn't go to the party given last night, and the meeting he had with Dilma for 9 AM was cancelled. I suspect he may have got wind of comments the Brazilians wanted to make about his lack of respect for separation of powers and increasingly autocratic rule.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 03:17 PM
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7. That would be the State Department's view. yes. n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 05:06 AM
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3. Amazing photos. All of them. We won't ever see a president in an open car here in our lifetimes!
She looks terrific.

So glad to see a photo with Lula, too. She has a great mentor.

Thanks for posting these images. It's a real treat. I appreciate your discussion of who was there, and who spoke with the new President.

Recommending. :hi:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 05:28 AM
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4. As a reminder, this is an article concerning Dilma's anticipated victory:
With Rousseff as Brazil's President the Castros and Chavez Will Have a Lot to Celebrate
2010 - September 2010
Written by Nikolas Kozloff
Wednesday, 08 September 2010 18:59

In a scene from my first book, Hugo Chávez: Oil, Politics and the Challenge to the U.S. (Palgrave-Macmillan, 2006), I discuss how Brazil became an ally of Venezuela during a key moment of heightened political tensions. It was December, 2002 and Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez was facing down an economically damaging lock-out of the oil sector launched by the right wing political opposition. The lock-out capped a tumultuous political year for Chávez: just eight months earlier, he had scarcely managed to face down a coup d'état launched by pro-U.S. elements within the country's military and business elite.

As a result of the lock-out, Venezuela was obliged to import gasoline for domestic use. Chávez, who at the time was locked in a bitter political struggle with the Bush White House in Washington, desperately needed allies. Fortunately, just across the border Venezuela found an important diplomatic supporter in Brazil.

In a clear sign that the South American giant was in no mood to cooperate with U.S. efforts designed to isolate Venezuela, Brazil shipped half a million barrels of oil to the Chávez government.

Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva of the Workers' Party had just won the Brazilian presidential election two months earlier, defeating conservative challenger José Serra. Though he had not yet officially taken office, Lula was reportedly involved in the sensitive decision to ship oil to Venezuela.

More:
http://www.brazzil.com/articles/224-september-2010/10424-with-rousseff-as-brazils-president-the-castros-and-chavez-will-have-a-lot-to-celebrate.html

We've read tons of material on Lula and Chavez's deep, long-lasting bond. I wouldn't expect Brazil to take a different attitude with the President who has sworn to consolidate Lula's plan for Brazil.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:10 PM
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8. Thank you for this Kozloff story about Lula helping Chavez back in 2002.
I didn't know that their friendship/alliance--so important to Latin American progress--started so early.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 05:14 PM
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15. Que viva Brasil!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 09:14 AM
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5. Interesting indeed. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 03:16 PM
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6. Great pictures! Thanks, rabs.
Chavez and Lula played bad/good cop so well, I can't help thinking Dilma and Chavez will continue the strategy.
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 05:59 PM
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9. Hil and Hugo pressed the flesh




This is one of those pictures where one could put a balloon over their heads and fill in what each was REALLY thinking of each other.
:rofl:

This was at the diplomatic reception after Dilma's inauguration. Dilma had a longish conversion with Chavez before the reception and before Chavez left for Caracas last night, according to the Jornal do Brasil. The other two in the photo are Santos of Colombia and Pinera of Chile.

State up to now has not released any information about what Hil and Hugo chatted. Hil was the first to arrive at the reception and also the first to leave.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:26 PM
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10. The body language is pretty hilarious.
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 06:35 PM by EFerrari
:P
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:42 PM
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12. Iranian vice president was also there

Wonder what Hil and company thought about that :evilgrin:

http://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/galeriaimagens/images/fotos/16438/normal?p_p_id=galeria

Maryam Mojtahed Zadeh (born 3 January 1957) is an Iranian politician who is current Vice President of Iran and Head of Center for Women and Family Participation Affairs

and a cool photo of Lula and his wife saying goodbye yesterday at a Brasilia military base


http://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/galeriaimagens/images/fotos/16612/normal?p_p_id=galeria


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:44 PM
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13. That IS the coolest picture of Lula ever. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:34 PM
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11.  . . .
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:48 PM
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14. Lol -- n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 09:58 PM
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16. Found another Hugo & Hillary photo:
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