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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:21 AM
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Chávez blames Bush, not U.S.
Source: Orlando Sentinel

Chávez blames Bush, not U.S.
Speaking with U.S. newspaper editors, he says he wants to reach out to whoever is elected president in November.
Charlotte H. Hall

Editor

May 18, 2008

CARACAS, Venezuela

President Hugo Chávez says Venezuela's beef with the United States is all about George Bush, and the government will reach out quickly to the new American president.

In a wide-ranging interview Thursday with a group of visiting American newspaper editors, Chávez said he respected the American people and wished to "beg for forgiveness if in my speech I have hurt any feelings back in the States."
He said his criticism is aimed at "the elite that is governing the United States, and not even all the elite."

Of the American presidential candidates, Chávez said, "It would be a lie to say I have no preference." But "I shouldn't say anything that would be used against someone."

Chávez wants to start immediate exchanges with whoever is elected. "It is through talking that we can then come closer and share and compare our views and then reach an agreement."

Chávez said he had been able to talk with President Clinton about many topics, "but after that everything broke to pieces."




Read more: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/orl-hallstory1808may18,0,73926.story?track=rss
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:24 AM
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1. thank you Chavez for your sanity
Edited on Sun May-18-08 11:24 AM by ensho
nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:29 AM
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2. We can only hope the rest of the world
sees it the same way.
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:37 AM
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3. Spot on...
:toast:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:38 AM
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4. I am shocked yet pleased to see this in a US newspaper!
Thank you JudiLynn! :hi:

<snip>

Chávez wants to start immediate exchanges with whoever is elected. "It is through talking that we can then come closer and share and compare our views and then reach an agreement."

Chávez said he had been able to talk with President Clinton about many topics, "but after that everything broke to pieces."

The Venezuelan president said he first met President Bush in Canada and told him, in English, "I want to be your friend." But his efforts were rebuffed even when other heads of state served as intermediaries, including the then-president of Mexico, Vicente Fox.

"Even good friends could not get Bush to sit down and talk," Chávez said.

Sounding his frequent theme of a global war on poverty, Chávez said he wants to work with the United States and other countries on health, food production and education, "forgetting about ideology."
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:02 PM
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8. It's a shock, isn't it? From Florida, too! Same state which organized an anti-Chavez
demonstration and parade in a joint effort by the Miami Cuban "exile" community working with the Venezuelan expatriots and second-homers who've bought a lot of homes in South Florida both years ago and recently.

They pulled off this brain stroke and held it on the very day the entire rest of the world had planned to into the streets protesting the upcoming invasion of Iraq by George W. Bush.



Former opposition leaders Carlos Fernandez, at center with raised
thumb, and Carlos Ortega, in a white Venezuela T-shirt, move to
the front of the protest march as it heads east on Calle Ocho, Miami.
The two men helped lead a national strike in their homeland.



Marchers in Little Havana demanded international help and denounced
the governments in Venezuela and Cuba as “serious threats” to Latin
America.

Half-wits!
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:05 PM
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9. I hope the author doesn't have to dodge death threats. n/t
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:28 PM
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15. Maybe they want to appear "unbiaed" for once?
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:31 PM
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26. Unfortunately,
it is not when it's easy that you need the support of an independent press. Let's remember what it was like in 2003 and let's make the count of who stood up against the madness...
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Proletariatprincess Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:41 AM
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5. Non news is news to some...
Chavez is anti imperialist, not anti american, and has always been so. It is pure spin that misquoted Chavez's rhetoric. We Americans despise George Bush, but when Chavez criticized the the devil, he is anti american? Get real. The propaganda is so transparent. I think too, of Ahmadinajad saying he would like to see Zionism off the map and that statement was interpreted, without question, to mean the state of Israel.
I would like to see all the red states wiped off the political map...doesnt mean I want to destroy the USA.
In the days of the USSR, the people there knew propaganda when they saw it and read between the lines and sought other sources to keep informed. Too bad we don't recognize it here yet.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:37 PM
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27. I love your heartfelt logic
Very good points. I too can't wait for Bush to leave office and for Obama to begin repairing the damage that Bush has done. Part of me thinks that we need to be patient with Obama, because it's hard to fix overnight the mess that Bush spent 8 years creating.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:00 PM
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6. Chavez, unlike Bush, abides by election results.
Chavez actually abided by election results when the voters refused to grant him sweeping powers (the voters were right).

Bush, of course, takes a more Rovian view of those nuisances called "elections."

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:32 PM
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16. He could only hope for such powers as Bush has.
The world leaders follow Bush to get what they want. If Bush didn't they know they wouldn't get away with it. The choas and terrorism for removing rights is just what a leader uses to get what he wants.

After the revolution the Whiskey Rebellion was against excess taxation like the Brits. The people told Washington...no deal after we fought to get rid of this type of government. Washington reacted to their lawlessness but learned he had to be different to keep the people from rebelling.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:02 PM
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7. A remarkably unbiased article. A pleasant surprise. n/t
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:11 PM
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10. It is, isn't it? WTF has been happening to the MSM lately?
The media this week has seemed to do a good job and speaking some truth concerning the Bushes. As some have said, with election wins for Dems in Mississippi and Illinois (in strong Republican districts), the media seems to be finally catching the winds of change.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:46 PM
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18. Hello, fellow Texan.
I see you're just down the road a piece (hwy 75). I'm in Grayson county. It's a pleasure to see that there are others here who have an interest in the world.

See'ya around.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:51 PM
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21. Yes, how ya doing?
Love that part of the country. My wife attended Austin College there in Sherman. Hope you are having a good day. Fixin to get really hot this week, so we need to enjoy what's left of spring.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:50 PM
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19. Perhaps a Couple of the Parent-Company CEOs are On Vacation
Edited on Sun May-18-08 12:50 PM by AndyTiedye
They'll get back to their Repiglickin' ways once they get a phone call from the big boss.



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Cieran Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:18 PM
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11. Watch this movie on google video: Venezuela Bolivariana
Edited on Sun May-18-08 12:19 PM by Cieran
It is an amazing film that documents the Caracazo in 1989, when the indigenous people rose up against the colonial oligarchy but were suppressed when thousands were killed. It moves on to 1992, when Chavez and those that were in the military in 1989 had a crisis of conscience after murdering their own people from 1989, and tried to perform a coup against the oligarchy and failed. Chavez was jailed and eventually released after the people rose and demanded it, and was elected President himself in 1998. Since then, Chavez has transformed Venezuela from an oligarchy of the wealthiest 5% to a government for the people, by the people; building hospitals, clinics, schools etc with the income from oil sales, rather than re-investing that oil money back into American stocks and bonds.

Watch it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3117181384995669233&q=venezuela+bolivariana&ei=kGQwSIXPIpHQ4ALrm4jmCQ

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:50 PM
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20. Four and a half minutes into the film, can see this is something I want to watch carefully, Saving
it for a quieter time during the day. Thank you so much for posting it.

Welcome to D.U., Cieran! :hi:
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:27 PM
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30. Thanks very much for the tip... Hopefully everyone here has seen "The Rev. Will Not Be Televised"
about the April 2002 coup...

I believe that if anyone watches "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised," their life will be turned upside-down.

Because the film makes clear that the U.S. media is reporting a complete 100% REVERSAL-OF-FACTS about Venezuela.

If the media is reporting a 100% reversal-of-facts about Venezuela, then what else is being 100% lied about?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144&q=The+Revolution+Will+Not+Be+Televised&ei=BrswSLGSC4zkqwOG7c29CQ
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:56 PM
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31. It's worth watching again and again on the internetS, and also buying as a CD online,
and watching it on one's tv screen.

That's one completely fascinating documentary, isn't it?

I have never seen anything even remotely close to it.

It can't be explained, summarized, it can only be grasped through experiencing it personally.


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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:23 PM
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12. Interesting, he must believe McCain's not going to win
EVEN given the HUGH effort into voter disenfranchising, that creates chaos, interesting.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:24 PM
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13. The feeling is mutual:
Most in the U.S. would attribute the nutsiness coming from Venezuela to Chavez and not to the Venezuelans themselves.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:27 PM
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14. I agree.
Bush is a scourge to the world. He wants what they have for his own profit and power. They know that...so do we.
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:41 PM
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17. Please except my apology for this imperial empire's attempted bloody coup d 'tat.....
Thankfully,
Mexico's elected President Vicente Fox
forced the CIA's "National Endowment for Democracy" to back off
with a simple phone call to our fearless leader Bush.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:03 PM
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22. Hugo Chavez is a great man...for anyone who has not seen
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:07 PM
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23. CHAVEZ: "everything broke to pieces." YEAH, an unsuccessful coup attempt by BUSH
Edited on Sun May-18-08 01:08 PM by L. Coyote
no doubt. What a complete failure the Bush Junta is, and a good thing that, when they try to overthrow a Democracy!!

Most of the posters have seen this numerous times, but perhaps some readers have not.
MUST SEE FILM: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144

THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED - 74 min - Apr 23, 2006
KIM BARTLEY AND DONNACHA O'BRIAIN - www.chavezthefilm.com/index_ex.htm

IN SPANISH WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES HUGO CHAVEZ ELECTED PRESIDENT OF VENEZUELA IN 1998, IS A COLORFUL, UNPREDICTABLE FOLK HERO, beloved by his nation's working class and a tough-as-nails, quixotic opponent to the power structure that would see him deposed. Two independent filmmakers were inside the presidential palace on April 11, 2002, when he was forcibly removed from office. They were also present 48 hours later when, remarkably, he returned to power amid cheering aides. Their film records what was probably history's shortest-lived coup d'état. It's a unique document about political muscle and an extraordinary portrait of the man The Wall Street Journal credits with making Venezuela "Washington‚s biggest Latin American headache after the old standby, Cuba."
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:23 PM
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24. Oddly enough, it reads much better than the Boston Globe piece.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 01:26 PM by ToeBot
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:30 PM
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25. He never hurt my feelings!
Truth to power, Hugo!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:25 PM
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28. This article concerns a Latin American President our own President has been out to destroy
from his first day in his stolen office. He engineered and supported a coup against Chavez, and he has been threatening Chavez continually from the beginning.

This article, one of a tiny number of non-destructive articles on Chavez, has been shot into the Latin America forum, as if it's not relative to Late Breaking News.

I'm truly steamed! This has national interest value, especially since so many millions of all our tax dollars are being used to destabilize Chavez' popularly elected administration.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:33 PM
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29. I am shocked as well JL!
wtf?!? :banghead:

How come an article that disparages Chavez stays in LBN? Thinking minds want to know!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:01 AM
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32. it sure did kill the thread
:(
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:42 AM
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33. As you pointed out, the hard spun threads stay where they were posted. Odd, isn't it? n/t


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