Colombia proves again that Venezuela is harboring FARC terrorists

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Colombia proves again that Venezuela is harboring FARC terrorists


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/29/AR2010072905211.html
Friday, July 30, 2010

COLOMBIA'S PRESENTATION to the Organization of American States about Venezuela's hosting of the FARC terrorist movement prompted a flurry of speculation about the motives of Álvaro Uribe, Colombia's outgoing president. Why, it was asked, did he want to end his eight years in office in another confrontation with Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chávez? Could he be trying to sabotage his successor, Juan Manuel Santos, who is due to take office on Aug. 7?

Allow us to offer a simple explanation: Mr. Uribe, who has devoted his presidency to rescuing Colombia from armed gangs of both the left and the right, is deeply frustrated by Venezuela's continuing support for the FARC -- and by the failure of the international community to hold Mr. Chávez accountable for it. Before leaving office, Mr. Uribe felt compelled to make one more effort to call attention to a problem that, were it occurring in the Middle East, would surely be before the U.N. Security Council.

That Venezuela is backing a terrorist movement against a neighboring democratic government has been beyond dispute since at least 2008, when Colombia recovered laptops from a FARC camp in Ecuador containing extensive documentation of Mr. Chávez's political and material support. Colombia's presentation to the OAS last week contained fresher and more detailed intelligence. Ambassador Luis Alfonso Hoyos supplied precise map coordinates for several of the 75 FARC camps that he said had been established on Venezuelan territory and that harbor some 1,500 militants. He showed photos and videos, including one of a top commander from another Colombian terrorist organization, ELN, sipping Venezuelan beer on a popular Venezuelan beach.

Mr. Chávez responded with predictable bluster, breaking off relations with Bogota and threatening (not for the first time) to cease oil exports to the United States. Another crisis with Colombia probably benefits the caudillo, who is desperate to distract attention from his country's imploding economy and soaring violence.

Nevertheless, the question remains: Will other democracies support Colombia against this flagrant violation of international law? The Obama administration is characteristically lukewarm. The State Department, which has designated the FARC a terrorist organization, said it found Colombia's allegations "persuasive" but limited itself to supporting "a transparent international process" to investigate them. Perhaps more consequentially, one of the leading candidates in Brazil's presidential election campaign, José Serra, said "it is undeniable that Chávez is sheltering these FARC" militants. Under outgoing president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, Brazil has been one of Mr. Chávez's chief apologists and enablers. Were that support to be withdrawn, Mr. Chávez might have to rethink his terrorist alliance.

[killbotfactory]

1. The proof is in a bunker somewhere next to Iraqi WMDs

[CJvR]

2. Actually...

The proofs have been presented.

Rather than trying to disprove them Chavez had a temper tantrum worthy of little Kim and sent the army to the border.

[Wilms]

3. Proof? You mean that compromised laptop that InterPol won't bother bringing to court?

That's whatthe WaPo Editorial says, claiming it "has been beyond dispute".

And people fall for this shit?

Can you spell WMD? I thought not. :eyes:

[Bacchus39]

5. no FARC in Venezuela is that your claim???

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzz9qOXyfjRAhZqtwPXWVIo2_VgHGPgkxdX5WlrjQi5orvY3E&t=1&usg=__-UAgp0EQBLxyU3mQF52qIZa3fEc=

any idea which Farc leader that is?? why would it be shocking to you that the FARC is in Ven Reyes had a camp in Ecuador ideological soul mates

[Wilms]

7. Care to respond to the laptop issue?

[Bacchus39]

8. thanks for the softball

google him and you will see him dead

[Wilms]

9. I guess not.

[bherrera]

13. maybe they should use

a third party to verify the Colombian claim? Maybe the OEA, or maybe the European Union can create an investigative commission.

[Peace Patriot]

4. "...rescuing Colombia from armed gangs of both the left and the right...". Uh-huh.

And that's why some 70 of Uribe's closest political associates, including family members, are under investigation or in jail for their ties to the rightwing death squads that operate freely in Colombia, committing about half of the murders of trade unionists in Colombia. The Colombian military itself has murdered the other half (according to Amnesty International). The FARC guerrillas deserve to be exterminated, but state terror--mass slaughtering of trade unionists, peasants, teachers, community activists, human rights workers, journalists, political leftists and others, and the forced displacement of some 5 million peasant farmers--is okay with the Washington Past? Narry a mention. Well, the $7 BILLION in U.S. taxpayer dollars that go to this murder and mayhem in Colombia is a very important slice of the war profiteer pie in DC. Can't have such sacred pie crapped on, can we?

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"Mr. Uribe, who has devoted his presidency to rescuing Colombia from armed gangs of both the left and the right, is deeply frustrated by Venezuela's continuing support for the FARC -- and by the failure of the international community to hold Mr. Chávez accountable for it. Before leaving office, Mr. Uribe felt compelled to make one more effort to call attention to a problem that, were it occurring in the Middle East, would surely be before the U.N. Security Council." --Washington Puss

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The article is so packed with disinformation that I don't have time to unravel it all. But this item really pissed me off. Uribe has not "rescued" Colombia from rightwing paramilitary gangs and death squads. He has UNLEASHED these death squads, to DO HIS BIDDING, to exterminate peasants and labor leaders and political leftists, with massive funding from you and me.

You raise your head in Colombia, to advocate for the poor, or to tell the truth about Uribe and HIS gang, and you risk getting it shot off. And that includes death threats to the courageous prosecutors and judges who have tried to curtail him. That's the kind of climate that Uribe has created, and that we, the poor of America, are paying for. And his successor is worse than he is--Santos, the Defense Minister during Uribe's and the Colombian military's reign of terror.

I have this to say to the Washington Puke and its CIA scribblers...

:puke:

[naaman fletcher]

10. yes, exactly

as you said "are under investigation or in jail for their ties to the rightwing death squads"

That is rescuing colombia from armed gangs left and right. See, you said it yourself, he is putting them in jail.

[Peace Patriot]

11. LOL! Uribe's "putting them in jail"? Surely you jest. nt

[naaman fletcher]

12. then how do they get in jail? nt

[Downwinder]

6. See:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x39312