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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:47 PM
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Cuban dissidents claim they were misled by Spain (not given free perks Cubans get in the USA)
Cuban dissidents claim they were misled by Spain
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h8tSvuPHf1ZNejBGsMyi3KzvncAwD9H2822O0

A group of Cuban political prisoners recently released to live in Spain complained Monday they felt let down by the Spanish government.

The 11 dissidents were released this month by Havana as part of the Castro regime's commitment to free 52 imprisoned since 2003 under an agreement with the Spanish government and Catholic Church. Eight more are due to arrive in Madrid on Tuesday.

Julio Cesar Galvez, one of the initial group, said they are no longer receiving legal counseling from the authorities.

He said the group felt it was "misled" because Spain is not making good on its promise of help as they try to start new lives.

"We signed a series of undertakings in front of a Spanish Embassy employee in Havana," Galvez told a news conference.

However, "we have already stopped receiving legal advice," Galvez said, adding he was speaking on behalf of the group.

The Spanish government had no immediate reaction to the group's complaints. However, Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos said Sunday the dissidents must be patient with the slowness of local bureaucracy.

Moratinos said the freed dissidents would be issued with Spanish work and residency permits within three to four months.

The dissidents and their families, numbering about 70, are staying at a hotel in the Madrid suburbs.



Obviously, the US taxpayers offer more free social services to ex Cubans than Spanish taxpayers do. That's why destination of choice for Cubans is the only country that offers them a big juicy carrot on a stick - socialistic perks not even available to native born Americans.







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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:34 PM
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1. Thanks for adding that WILDLY unacceptable aspect: Native Americans
are totally banished from the main population of the country, after genocide decimated the nation's people, drove the survivors into harsh, unbearable, unworkable areas of the country far, FAR from their original homeland, familiar climate, way of life, and has stigmatized them since then by the full hostility of racism. The country's original citizens' descendants are pushed out away from the urban centers onto sterile, unusable land, and left to rot.

Cuban immigrants are given the keys to the city by comparison, for LIFE, with instant legal status, no one to chase them around, instant access to social security, welfare, food stamps, US taxpayer-funded Section 8 housing, financial assistance for their educations, medical treatment, etc., etc., etc. All of this is UNAVAILABLE to the original Americans.

So damned rotten!

So these new guys who have been political pawns for the U.S. government hope to arrive at their next destination with their hands out in the "gimme" position for having made professional subversion their life's calling. They haven't learned it yet, but their greatest value to the U.S. came when they were back in Cuba, creating conflict.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:43 PM
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2. Hope Spain sticks to its position & won't crumble & start supporting these clowns financially.n/t
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:18 PM
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3. They'll come to the US in a heartbeat.
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 08:26 PM by Billy Burnett
The Cuban Adjustment Act and Wet Foot/Dry Foot covers it.

All they have to do is get a plane ticket to the US and set foot here. Bingo! Do you think that Spain really wants these worms?

Cubans in America = truly 1st class citizens and residents.

Miami awaits them ...







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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:11 AM
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4. Si se puede, move to Miami that is.... yeeech!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:52 AM
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5. Oh, Spain's socialist government is walking a tightrope on this one--
as they slash public services and benefits, trying to survive the Bushwhack Depression. And they're going to subsidize rightwing Cubans and CIA operatives? Good luck to them!

It would sure be interesting to know what this was all about--I mean really. And whether or not the U.S. is going to reciprocate, by freeing the "Cuban Five"?

Lot of stuff going on, lot of movement, on the "intelligence" front. Russia. This. The Iran scientist thing. We can only guess, as the purported sovereign people of the USA, what our very secretive government is up to, and what is going on in its darkest corners. (I am dumbfounded by the Russian thing, and don't even have a wild guess.) On this, I'd guess that the cardinal had a CIA okay. (Our secret government and the Vatican seem to have a lot of affinity with each other.) They can spin some headlines with it (--for instance, that Cuba is releasing "political prisoners" not criminals, spies and agents provocateur). And then make some headway toward opening up all those beautiful, pristine beaches to BP's, Chevron-Texaco's and Exxon Mobil's kind ministrations.

Ah, me.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:15 PM
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6. Don't worry. Ultimately, we'll be paying for them.
Not only for all of the US perks for Cubans only when they get here, but I'm sure we'll be footing the bill to get them here too.

I've been noticing that the Obama admin has been taking more Cubans intercepted at sea to Guantanamo's special residence centers for these intercepted Cubans. Strange. Cuban illegal migrants intercepted at sea are interviewed by ICE agents on the USCG ships. Supposedly this interview determines if they are political persecution migrants or economic migrants. The usual action would be the Cubans deemed to be economic refugees are returned to Cuba by the USCG under a US/Cuba migration agreement worked out during the Clinton admin., and the Cubans deemed to have a political persecution case are brought to the US. Why this Guantanamo rerouting is going on is unstated at this point, but I'll bet that they'll eventually end up in Miami.

No matter what, the US taxpayers end up footing the bill.







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