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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 07:37 PM
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So, Plucked Eyebrows met with Raul Reyes, then he killed him

Caught in another lie

Don't know if this has been published in English, but JM Santos yesterday admitted that he had met with FARC's Raul Reyes twice, once when peace talks were being held (2002) in San Vicente del Caguan and another time privately in Costa Rica (no date given).

Santos said he had met with the FARC leader under the auspices of then President Andres Pastrana's government.

Today, Pastrana issued a statement saying not so, that Santos had met with Reyes once as a member of the negotiating commission but he never had government permission to meet with Reyes privately.

The statement also says that Santos had met with Carlos Castano, the notorious AUC (paramilitary) leader but give no details.

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'No hubo autorización a Juan Manuel Santos para reunirse con Raúl Reyes': Andrés Pastrana

Santos admitió dos reuniones con Reyes', pero autorizado por el Gobierno de ese entonces.


http://www.eltiempo.com/elecciones2010/juanmanuelsantos/santos-admitio-que-se-reunio-dos-veces-con-raul-reyes-pero-con-autorizacion-del-gobierno_7550067-1

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Santos was defense minister on March 1, 2008 when Reyes' camp was bombed inside Ecuador.

In other bad news for Santos (who is called "Plucked Eyebrows" by Colombians), an Ecuadoran judge today reopened the case against Santos for the attack. It also names the commander of the Colombian army (Gen. Freddy Padilla) and two other defense officials.




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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:07 PM
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1. Rabs, can you give me a summary,
I don't understand the story:

Santos met with Reyes twice, he claims. The first time he gives a date, the second time he does not. He says me met with Reyes under the auspices of the Pastrana government.

Pastrana says Santos met with Reyes once. So Santos lied about meeting him twice. Or, perhaps, the second time it was not on behalf of the Pastrana government.

Santos was later Defense Minister when Colombia launched an attack on a FARC base across the Ecuador border.


Is that correct? Just a little confusing to me. thanks.
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:24 PM
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2. Nothing is ever simple in Colombia, but as I understand it ...




... Santos this week admitted to his followers that he met with Reyes twice, both times with permission of the Pastrana government.

Today Pastrana says Santos met with Reyes while he was a member of the government's negotiating commission at the San Vicente del Caguan peace talks. Those talks went on from 1999 to 2002 when they collapsed.

Santos also said he had met with Reyes in Costa Rica. The date of that meeting has not been published as far as I know.

Pastrana today said Santos had not had government permission to meet privately with Reyes in Costa Rica.

There are no details of Santos' meeting with Carlos Castano, which is mentioned in Pastrana's statement today. I thought that was strange too.

What I do not understand yet is why Santos would admit meeting with Reyes in Costa Rica, especially now that he is in the midst of the presidential campaign.

And yes, Santos was defense minister when Operation Phoenix killed Reyes and the others at the FARC camp inside Ecuador.


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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:30 PM
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6. Interesting, thanks..
It sounds to me, from what little is presented here, that he is trying to say "I'm not a violent guy, I met with the guy twice to work things out, and only attacked him as a last resort".

Again, that is based on what little info is here.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:41 PM
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7. Avail yourself of the opportunity to research this material as many DU'ers did long ago. n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:26 PM
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3. It's amazing this information ever got out, rabs.
Will be looking for more to come out, for sure.

Thanks for the breaking story which will probably never run here!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:28 PM
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4. Forgot to recommend. Thanks, again.
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:29 PM
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5. My God! He's worse than Chavez! nt
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:45 PM
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8. Worse than Chavez?



Or No. 82, aka Alvaro Uribe?

:-)



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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:10 PM
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9. That was the number the Sept. 9, 1991 declassified defense Department intelligence report gave him.
Hard to grasp why they have embraced him NOW, isn't it?

The declassified defense Department intelligence report, dated September 1991, reads like a Who's Who of Colombia's cocaine trade. The list includes the Medellin cartel's kingpin, Pablo Escobar, and more than 100 other thugs, assassins, traffickers and shady lawyers in his alleged employ. Then there's entry 82: "Alvaro Uribe Velez--a Colombian politician and senator dedicated to collaboration with the Medellin cartel at high government levels. Uribe was linked to a business involved in narcotics activities in the U.S.... Uribe has worked for the Medellin cartel and is a close personal friend of Pablo Escobar Gaviria."
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-120109013/blacklist-list-once-deemed.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:15 PM
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10. Who can forget Pablo?
A true enterpreneur in the old style.
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