Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Venezuela: "Colombia must send a non-aggression signal"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Places » Latin America Donate to DU
 
spanza Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 08:42 PM
Original message
Venezuela: "Colombia must send a non-aggression signal"
Ramón Carrizález, Venezuela's Vice President and Defense Minister, said that the Colombian government is the one that should send a signal that "it is not preparing to attack Venezuela," because President Hugo Chávez "has always extended his hand (to the neighboring country) but they have bitten it."

"Colombians are the ones who should send a signal and stop the aggressions that have been taking place (in Venezuela), such as spying (its territory), supporting paramilitary groups, attacking Venezuela directly or through its allies," Carrizález said after being asked about the possibility of holding bilateral meetings to overcome the diplomatic crisis.

The Vice President said that the opinion of former Colombian President Ernesto Samper concerning "the pre-war situation" with Venezuela is "respectable." "Samper stated this because he is aware of what is happening in his country about the US military bases," Carrizález concluded.


http://english.eluniversal.com/2009/11/06/en_pol_esp_colombia-must-send_06A3012131.shtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:10 AM
Response to Original message
1. not wanting to pick sides
I would hate to see any agression. But sending 15,000 troops to the border and demanding a nonagression move seems somewhat ironic perhaps. on the other hand, I have no problem with the government stepping up security in the border region.

Not wanting to excuse Colombia with all its issues and problems but is Colombia a convenient scapegoat for the Venezuelan government???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Wouldn't be the first time
that a government diverted attention from internal problems by claiming they're being threatened by their neighbor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:26 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Except in this case as you well know, most of Latin America
joins Venezuela in its objection.

But nice try.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Braulio Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. You are mixing the topics, aren't you?
It seems you've mixed two topics:

One is whether Colombia should have signed a treaty with the USA to allow use of its bases by Americans. I suspect the majority of Latin American governments believes it's not sanitary to let the USA have right to the bases,

Two is whether Colombia is threatening Venezuela with war. I suspect they think it's Chavez raising tensions and threatening war, rather than Uribe.

What Chavez seems to be doing is a typical ploy used by governments to divert attention from internal problems. For example, Bush's popularity went way up when the USA was attacked on 911. The Argentina military junta were like Jesus Christ Superstar in 1982, when the public thought they had won the Malvinas war. Both suffered later, as their popularity dropped once the people realized the wars were being lost - or were lost outright in the case of Argentina.

What are Chavez' internal problems? Inflation and crime are very high, they had to declare national emergencies in health care, electric power, and water supply, and the population is very polarized. The government has been taking on debt like there's no tomorrow. While their debt to GDP ratio is still very safe, the trends are ominous, and this is reflected in the very high interest rates Venezuelan bonds are paying - I read recently they are now approaching 18 %, close to junk bond status.

Meanwhile, oil production is slowly dropping, and internal consumption of heavily subsidized liquid fuels is increasing (some of it caused by a natural gas supply shortfall, which leads them to burn diesel and fuel oil to generate electricity, rather than gas). The government has been unable to reverse the trend thus far, and is afraid of ending fuel subsidies. Oil represents most of Venezuela's exports, so they seem to be in a serious bind.

This is what seems to drive the government to growl and spit towards Colombia - it's a way to get their followers distracted.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 12:50 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Places » Latin America Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC