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dsmmom Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:38 AM
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Biden just sent this email
It's The Politico Article that was posted yesterday.

As work in the Senate begins again, I wanted to pass along thisarticle. I hope you find it interesting.Joe

The Politico Biden looks overseas By Helena Andrews

Despite his failed presidential bid, foreign policy experts sayJoe Biden returns to the Senate and his Foreign RelationsCommittee chairmanship this week with burnished credentials. The Delaware senator's second run for the White House ended inthe snow of Iowa, but he is even more attractive than before asa candidate for secretary of state in a Democraticadministration, according to some in the Washington foreignpolicy community. Biden also wins praise for attempting toengage voters in a more substantive debate on national securityand foreign affairs issues. But more than anything else, there is a sense of relief on bothsides of the aisle that Biden is finally off the campaign trailand back in the driver's seat at the Foreign RelationsCommittee, where he can focus his energies on U.S. relationswith Iran, North Korea and Kosovo. "As a conservative, I'm one who's gained more respect for JoeBiden over the last few years," said a GOP House aide, but "hereturns to an institution of which there is enormous frustrationat the Senate for its failure to step up on a host oflegislative initiatives." The frustration isn't necessarily limited to Biden or hispresidential bid. "We've seen no serious legislative initiativesout of this committee for the better part of three or fouryears," said the aide. "Half the members of that committee wererunning for president, whether it was John Kerry, Joe Biden orChuck Hagel - everybody seemed to be angling for thepresidency." The return of an unsuccessful White House candidate to theclubby and competitive atmosphere of the Senate has proveddifficult for some in the past. But Biden, despite his earlyexit, seemed to win respect from his opponents and politicalobservers for the way he ran his campaign - and also for seemingto curb his legendary gift for gab, which has resulted indamaging verbal gaffes throughout his career. Biden's reputation as a politician who can broker agreements andwork across party lines makes him a pivotal player for the nextadministration. Come next year, the next president must considerthe question of either how to get out of Iraq or how to stay,and Biden is poised to play a central role in that debate. "Whatever choice the new president wants , he or shewill need congressional support and bipartisan support, andBiden will be crucial," said Michael Mandelbaum, author of"Democracy's Good Name." "Whoever is president will be courting him," Mandelbaum added. Of course, it's possible that the next president will view Bidenas a potential secretary of state. Dan Hamilton, director of theCenter for Transatlantic Relations at The Johns HopkinsUniversity, said Biden's recent time on the national stage wouldbe enough to propel him to a Cabinet position, especially givenhis well-received debate performances. "It wouldn't surprisepeople next January to hear that he had been made secretary ofstate," said Hamilton. "If the announcement had been made lastJuly, some people would have been surprised." Others saw value in Biden's campaign because the Delawaresenator discussed important issues that might otherwise havebeen overlooked. On the campaign trail in Iowa, Biden asked a crowd ofsupporters, "What happens if implodes and nuclearwarheads fall into the hands of terrorists? That's what I'vebeen warning about for five years." At the NPR presidential debates in Iowa last December, Bidensaid his foreign policy doctrine would be one of prevention."And we don't have to imagine any of the crises," he said. "Weknow what's going to happen on day one when you're president.You have Pakistan, Russia, China, the subcontinent of India. Youhave Afghanistan. You have Darfur. And it requires engagement -engagement and prevention." Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow offoreign policy at the Brookings Institution, said Biden elevatedthe quality of conversation about issues such as Pakistan andChina. "Biden typically had a sophistication in his answers that gotbeyond the simple slogan," O'Hanlon said, referring to candidatedebates in which the senator spoke eloquently about the dangersof an unstable Pakistan and the ongoing genocide in the Darfurregion of Sudan. "I'm glad we didn't have to deal with just thefront-runners." Johns Hopkins' Hamilton agreed: "He resisted the easy soundbite. And I do think people respected that." Jim Jatras, a lobbyist and former foreign policy adviser, wasskeptical about whether the issues raised by Biden would bediscussed in any depth now that his presidential bid has ended. "I don't think the presidential race is going to figure veryhighly on foreign policy issues unless we're dealing with crisesthat come up," said Jatras. "I don't think anyone will focus onthem from their own initiative." Christopher Preble, director of foreign policy studies at TheCato Institute, said Biden had been typecast among thecandidates as the "wise foreign policy sage, kind of speakingthe truth." Other foreign policy wonks said the same, referring to Biden assophisticated and a shoo-in to lead the State Department or,alternately, on the short list for a vice presidential nodshould Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois win the Democraticnomination. Despite his foot-in-mouth comments about Obama being"articulate" last February, some said Biden's foreign policyexperience would complement Obama's perceived inexperience inthat area. "When it comes to VP nominees, Biden is going to be on thatlist," said Steve Clemons, a senior fellow at the New AmericaFoundation, a "radical centrist" think tank based in Washington.Clemons added that he hoped the possibility of being Obama'srunning mate wouldn't "distract" Biden "from the more importantfunction of having the Foreign Relations Committee up and doingits job."

Paid for by Biden for President, Inc.--------------------------------------------------
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:48 AM
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1. Just got it too....
nice to see that we're still in the loop. :-)
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mjg540 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:18 AM
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2. VP FOR BARACK?????
That comment continues to disturb me. Why in the world would Biden want to be second chair to Barack Obama? That would make absolutely no sense. He could do far more for us where he's at now, but I still believe he needs to be President and send the two front-runners home. This campaign has turned into a media comedy, the real issues facing this country are not even being discussed. It' shameful!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:43 PM
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3. that was in the article, not coming from Biden himself
It is what some have called the Robin / Batman arrangement and I agree.

Can't see Biden as VP or SofState for Clinton (Bill factor plus her mistakes on Iran etc.)

For Obama I could maybe see either but today I'm agreeing with those who think he'll stay SFRC chair. It will be interesting to see Biden at work in the weeks to come. Also think we need Biden in the Senate because Reid & Co. are not going to grab a lot more Dem votes there.

Temperament-wise I think Biden and Obama are similar. I would have liked to see Biden / Obama , with Obama able to run in 8 years. If the democratic leadership cared about the big picture they should have made that happen.

OK, enough salting our wounds, back to work and half-listening to FISA on C-SPAN2.


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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:09 PM
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4. I could see him only wanting to be VP if the Dems did not control the Senate.
But expectations are that the Dems will be even more powerful in the Senate after the 2008 election. Which will, in turn, make Joe more powerful. :)

If the Dems increase their Senate numbers but lose the Presidency, we will STILL have Joe as the Foreign Policy chair, and we will need him more than ever!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:05 PM
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6. People are so wrapped up in the primaries
that they forget that an increased majority in congress is vital right now, no matter who occupies the White House.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:41 PM
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5. That is the only way I would support Obama.
He is so not ready for POTUS.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:23 PM
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7. Agree with every word, mjg540! nt
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 07:25 PM by gateley
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dsmmom Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:50 PM
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8. What if it were the only chance we had
of the Dems getting the White House? I think he might think twice about a VP slot with Obama. Personally, I would like to see him stay in the Senate or possibly SOT, but not VP.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:23 PM
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9. Even if he was the SOS (which is what I think you meant) -- he'd have to
be part of "the administration" -- and talk the talk. Like Colin Powell did re: Iraq (although I can't see Joe doing that, but I'm using it as an example.)

I prefer him where he is --

BUT -- if it was the only chance we had of getting the WH, we'd have to take that into consideration...
(like WE'D be the ones to decide :eyes:)
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muddrunner17 Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:58 PM
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10. Why this message now?
I can't see why Joe would send this out to us now, unless he is looking for a spot in an administration. While I think he would best serve us in the senate, I can see how he could be effective in an administration under the right circumstances. I do think he'd be huge asset as a running mate in the GE.

It great to see his email show up in my inbox. Checking my email just hasn't been the same lately.
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