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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:07 AM
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CNN: Poll do you agree with Cindy Sheehan that her son died for nothing?

Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan that her son, who was killed in an April 2004 battle in Baghdad, died "for nothing"?

Yes 55% 25783 votes

No 45% 21242 votes
Total: 47025 votes


http://www.cnn.com/
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:09 AM
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1. K&R nt
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 09:45 AM
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44. George W bush misued the service and honor of Casey Sheehan and over 100,000 US troops.
Edited on Wed May-30-07 09:48 AM by liberaldemocrat7
George W Bush and the REPUBLIKLAN party and their supporters have misused the service and honor of Casey Sheehan and over 100,000 men and women in Iraq and killed over 500,000 innocent Iraqis since the invasion begun in 2003,

Casey Sheehan served with honor but George W Bush stole Casey's honor and destroyed it.

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:10 AM
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2. kick
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:12 AM
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3. Kick!
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:12 AM
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4. This is an open-ended question.
Her son died for oil, ergo it wasn't for "nothing".
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:13 AM
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5. He died looking for WMDs
So, yes. He died for nothing.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:14 AM
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6. Absolutely
kick
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:14 AM
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7. kick
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:14 AM
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8. Done, and recommended.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:14 AM
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9. Done. Yes 55% No 45% nt
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:14 AM
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10. He didn't die for nothing
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:15 AM
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11. I'd say For no Noble Cause or For Nothing Good.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:42 AM
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23. That's right... he died so Cheney could pull Haliburton out of bankrupcy...
And also, so Cheney's buddies in the oil industry could make record profits for many years, due to instability in the Middle East.

Not a noble cause in my book.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:04 PM
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40. including Bush's re-election
Edited on Tue May-29-07 02:04 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
probably the most important reason he died.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:15 AM
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12. Who am I to question her? And I think that CNN should STFU.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:26 AM
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17. CNN ignored her or ridiculed her when Cindy was fighting for us to leave Iraq
CNN wanted Cindy to go away. Now that she has gone away and is no longer a part of the peace movement, CNN is willing to give her some ink.

CNN just cannot bear to give any media attention to the peace movement.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:15 AM
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13. Every soldier in Iraq is dieing for NOTHING. Thats the god damned TRUTH.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:23 AM
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well-said - with an emphasis on DAMNED...
And we all know who is DAMNING U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians to death.

:grr:
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:18 AM
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14. K&R
keep it up for voting
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:23 AM
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15. I put yes, but that's not true. He died for EXXON-Mobile, BP,
Chevron, etc.

11:24 a.m. CST

Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan that her son, who was killed in an April 2004 battle in Baghdad, died "for nothing"?
Yes


55%

27902 votes
No


45%

22934 votes
Total: 50836 votes
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:25 AM
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16. K & R
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:26 AM
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18. 55% yes 45% no...he died in a war based on LIES. I'd say he died for nothing. How has this illegal
Edited on Tue May-29-07 11:27 AM by in_cog_ni_to
invasion made our country safer? What have WE gained? What has Cindy gained? NADA! NOTHING! ZIP! ZILCH!



Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan that her son, who was killed in an April 2004 battle in Baghdad, died "for nothing"?
Yes


55%

29275 votes
No


45%

24069 votes
Total: 53344 votes
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:29 AM
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19. Bullshit question
I'm not going to answer it
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:32 AM
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21.  I agree n/t
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:30 AM
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20. The only positive thing I can think of
is that the soldiers that died in this war have been a stark emphasis on the insanity of war in general and needless war in particular. Perhaps their deaths will make people think and have some small effect in turning people away from war and to finding other ways of solving conflict.

Sadly this thought is all I have to cling to regarding the (needless?) death of my beloved uncle in Vietnam. Too bad that war didn't seem to teach us anything. Maybe this one will.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:08 PM
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27. Thanks for echoing my own sentiment. If enough people lose someone in Iraq
perhaps the outrage will finally cause an end to madness.

In that case, the fallen didn't die for nothing.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:39 AM
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22. CNN's ghoulish attempt at a smear as she's on her way out
Notice how the question is loaded so that we have to take the premise that this is what she actually said (which I don't believe) and that this is the only significant thing to remember about her. What about asking whether she was good for the anti-war effort? What about asking whether she changed your mind about the war? No. The question has to be used to PUSH something she (allegedly) said that Republicans keep using to demonize her and demonizing us: that we think "their sacrifice is wasted."

Fuck CNN and fuck their continued attempts to ruin this woman. Bush's slide into 30 percent approval STARTED when she began her vigil near Crawford in July 05. She changed minds and hearts. Casey's death was NOT in vain because it contributed to the social change that WILL end this war.
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dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:05 PM
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26. Here's her words
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/28/12530/1525

The most devastating conclusion that I reached this morning, however, was that Casey did indeed die for nothing. His precious lifeblood drained out in a country far away from his family who loves him, killed by his own country which is beholden to and run by a war machine that even controls what we think. I have tried every since he died to make his sacrifice meaningful,

She's tried to make sure it wasn't for nothing, but I think supporting her in this instance means saying Yes, it was for nothing in the sense that she means and they way most viewers will tend to view the proposition - i.e. that it was for no good cause. We've still to make sure it wasn't for nothing.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:50 AM
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24. i do NOT think that anybody EVER dies for NOTHING!!!!!
it is not up to me to be the judge of death. this is an arrognat poll. do NOT dishonor death!!!!!
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:22 PM
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32. I agree
It's just disrespectful to judge someone's death like this
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:28 PM
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33. how anyone can tell a mother that her son died for nothing is
beyond me....

people...please!!!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:36 AM
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49. Well, OK then.
He died for Halliburton's bottomline? Do you like that better?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:42 PM
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50. well, you can rationalize it anyway you want to
like the hooligan you are.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:58 AM
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25. Wow... this is hard for even me to answer
I'd like to think some good will come from the sacrifice of Casey and so many others. I need to think that.... But, I'd be hard pressed to really define that "good" right now....All I see is tragedy, but I certainly do believe they died with great honor, if not for any great cause.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:12 PM
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28. Well, his mother certainly used his death to do something positive.
Edited on Tue May-29-07 12:13 PM by BuyingThyme
But that probably doesn't go to the question.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:14 PM
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29. 55/45
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:18 PM
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30. sadly, WAY less than nothing
he died after being conned into abetting a crime
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:20 PM
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31. DU this poll
sorry that Cindy never got * to answer her question, but again, there should many more moms asking * that question, "for what noble cause" did their children get killed.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 12:54 PM
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34. Did Cindy ever say that?
She is much more eloquent about her reasons for opposing this illegal, immoral war.

Anyway, to get back to the simplistic right-wing paradigm of CNN, Yes 55%, No 45%.

Bill
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 01:04 PM
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35. Sometimes the truth hurts very badly. If she can face it, so should we.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 01:04 PM
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36. Actually, I don't. Certainly the "noble cause" that Bush touts
as the reason for the deaths in Iraq is utter BS. But like many parents who have lost beloved children, Cindy turned her loss into action, and as a result she has helped turn the tide of opinion against the war and has helped show Americans what George Bush really is. Similarly, when John Walsh lost his son Adam, he turned his grief into a mission, to help prevent other parents from suffering such losses. When the mothers of children kileld by drunk drivers turned their grief into energy to work against drunk driving, their purpose was also to make sure their children did not die in vain.

Cindy has fought the good fight in Casey's name, and she has made a huge difference. Because of that, Casey did not die in vain. Because of his moher's courage and stamina, fueled by her love for her lost son, his death has been used to further a genuinely noble cause, the cause of peace.

Casey Sheehan did not die in vain. We owe him and his mother a huge debt of gratitude.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 01:04 PM
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37. Assuming we're talking about judging the question ...
... from the perspective of Cindy's son, herself, American or democratic interests, abso-freaking-lutely it was for nothing.

Though the war in which her son sacrificed has been enormously valuable to Osama bin Laden, Iran, Russia, China and every other entity that has an interest in America's loss of leadership.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 01:19 PM
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38. done
Do you agree with Cindy Sheehan that her son, who was killed in an April 2004 battle in Baghdad, died "for nothing"?

Yes.......55%...47869 votes

No.......45%...39699 votes

Total: 87568 votes




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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:00 PM
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39. K&R!! Thank you....Well Stated and True!!
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:05 PM
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41. I voted 'no'.
I gently disagree with Cindy; Casey didn't die for 'nothing'. What he died for was bad and wrong and evil, but that's not nothing.

I hope going forward that she can find a space to live in that doesn't contain so much grief and rage.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 02:11 PM
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42. Yes 55% 56613 votes
Yes 55% 56613 votes

No 45% 47003 votes
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 09:17 AM
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43. Well, now the poll is about Britney Spears...
waaaaaay more important. :sarcasm:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 09:47 AM
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45. Thank you, brain dead media, for keeping America's focus on what's important
no wonder we're a nation of idiots.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 09:52 AM
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47. Karl must have called them.
It ain't the troops fault if they are dying for nothing Karl...they were lied to and sent to Iraq by the CiC, for no good reason other than more money for the oil companies and to make Karl's War President.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 09:48 AM
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46. Other than sparking some life into the peace movement,
I do think he died for nothing.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:13 AM
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48. No...
because the attention that she drew to the war and it's affects on the soldiers and families was not NOTHING. But, I'm sure that is little consolation to her.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:43 PM
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51. hmm now they are asking about britney spears
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:47 PM
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52. Damn!
I missed the CNN poll yesterday.

Today, however, the question is "Has Britney Spears truly hit rock bottom?"

31% say "Yes"

69% say "Not Yet".

And some say Americans do not focus on important issues.
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