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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:14 PM
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My question is how could the right be so naive to think Obama is a socialist?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:16 PM
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1. Better question: Why did so many people vote for him in spite of it?
if Socialism is so bad...
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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:18 PM
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5. The American public may not like "socialism"
But they liked Bush less, at the end.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:16 PM
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2. They are just trying to make him seem evil
because he is a black man, and you can have the "blacks" getting any ideas of power. :sarcasm: It's a horrible horrible thing, but I think thats the run of it.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:22 PM
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15. maybe it is a race issue,
tough for me to understand, I do believe I don't see color, have to stop looking through my own prism of reality...

and to be honest, I wish he was a socialist. or something close, for what ever we can get elected in our country.

but to see him dressed like Castro is really stupid, Obama couldn't hold a candle to Castro.

oh boy, here come the flames...:hide:
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:41 PM
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22. I agree I wish he was a socialist as well
but I think you are confusing Socialism and Communism. While they are similar Socialism leaves open the opportunity for a free market, while communism usually doesn't, although China seems to be mixing like all the different systems here lately.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:47 PM
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24. I would never want to be part of a Chinese ideal
I am please to see some of our friends south of the border are making excellent progress....
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:50 PM
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26. I'm not saying we should be like China
I'm just saying that they realize that one pure system can not work for long. Although I wish they would create a democratic system (which won't happen without a civil war), they have been more open to an economic system that only a few decades ago was their 100% enemy.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:04 PM
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27. I'm not saying we should be like China, oh i know that
:hi: I understand completely what you are saying...

we are moving so far from that ideal, something has to happen in order for it to change.

If the ignorant teabaggers and the rest of the minions want to fight and defend their oppressors, while they sit and sip their mint juleps on their plantations laughing at the show...

the rest of us, the purist:) ....I don't know, somethings got to change..
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:16 PM
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3. He must be pretty much in the middle
the right thinks he's a socialist and the left seems to think he's a corporatist reincarnation of Reagan.

It's kind of the same as the only way to find a news source that's truly unbiased is to find one that equally pisses off the ideologues from both sides of the spectrum.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:18 PM
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4. They aren't "naive" GET REAL-It's their strategy to call ALL Dems 'far-left" Liberals" & "Socialist"
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 03:33 PM by GreenTea
It's the republicans label for ALL democrats who want to help the people - the republicans who only help the rich get richer and give corporations everything they demand - Will trash any Dem using those code words, "Socialist" "Far-left" & "Liberal" that work so well for the Fox news, Limbaugh sheep the haters, the sheep and the moderates and Independents fall for the republican labels every time.

Because they have no backbone, no intelligence, they don't think for themselves, and HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF IDEOLOGY!

They have no ideology of their own and it's why they go back and forth like idiots morans!

If one knows the difference between republicans ideology and Democratic ideology they would be STRONG democrats for life no going back and forth - ALWAYS!

But many don't even understand what the word ideology even means!!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:21 PM
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11. Leadership, yes, Repo voters in the burbs or in rural areas,
no.

Sure, there are some who are quite sophisticated, but many are just Repos because they connect on some weird gut level.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:21 PM
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13. Absolutely
it's a tried and true tactic of the right that's been used to fantastic effect for years. Just ask one of them to define the term Socialist or Marxist and they'll give you a blank stare.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:26 PM
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18. be scared,very scared
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:23 PM
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16. the minions are naive and plain ole stupid
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:18 PM
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6. They confuse socialist with corporitist. And most don't realize that the
public park they like to take their kids to is an shining example of socialism in action.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:19 PM
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7. For the righties, anyone to the left of them is a "socialist."
They don't need no stinkin' definitions. They don't do vo-ca-bul-larry tests.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:20 PM
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8. they believe what their dittomasters tell them to believe
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:20 PM
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9. Because a 24/7 cable network and thousands of radio station say it over and over again.
It really is that simple. They want him to fail.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:20 PM
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10. Well, there are those on the right who think everyone who's
not a teabagger is a socialist. Then there are those on the left who wanted very much to believe that President Obama was a socialist, even though there was never any evidence of that. Between the two, the President is pretty much screwed right now. Both groups hate him. It's a problem.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:28 PM
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20. ya, it's scary....
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 03:29 PM by sasha031
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:46 PM
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23. In spite of how things have turned out- many on the right are still convinced he's a commie
...and no amount of bipartisanship or corporate sucking-up will change their minds.
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:21 PM
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12. It is BULLSHIT, and they know it. They are moving the goalposts/status quo.
And they dont mind at all lying/equivocating/ whatever they must, as they think it is to save us from Dems/communists.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:21 PM
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14. To those idiots Democrat = Socialist.
They don't know anything more than what Beckkk tells them.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:24 PM
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17. They only want to associate him with that term so when his right of center policies fail
they can falsely blame it on the failure of a Liberal-Socialist administration. Ironic since the failure will be the result of conservative DLC/GOP legislation.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:28 PM
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19. +1
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:34 PM
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21. Anyone who isn't screaming for Dickensian workhouses for the poor is a Commie to them
Actually, any govt. coordinated response to poverty and unemployment would attract their rants and carbombs. Chain-gangs is the only govt program they want. They'd prefer that anyone who isn't rich or at least solidly employed just be walled up and left to die like Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto. The strong could be spared for "employment" as prison labor. They don't believe Obama is a Socialist, they don't even know what a Socialist is; it's just a rhetorical club they bash ANYONE with who doesn't match their hatred for minorities, the disadvantaged and the struggling.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:48 PM
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25. Because they don't know what it is
They don't have a clue what a Socialist even is, and don't want to know. To them it's just another curse word.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:09 PM
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28. Uh, because they play with their own fecal matter?
These idiots think anyone to the left of Joe Lieberman = "SOSHULIST!!!1!!".

Maybe they should ask an actual Socialist if Barack is one. I suspect they'll get an answer after said Socialist gets up from being doubled over with laughter.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:18 PM
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29. I did genealogy of my family and had access to family letters going way back. One person, same
family name but not related, was newly immigrated to the USA. This was the 1950s. He wanted us to 'all get together to fight communism'. Truth is, going way back, the USA was fighting a war on communism almost alone and propaganda was everywhere. We had one dustup in canada but nothing that would stop us from getting socialist medicine and such. The USA took the mantle and fought on many fronts alone(I don't agree with many of the battles and interference upon nations the USA did in the cold war). That is a huge legacy so I can easily see why the GOP would want to reawaken this fear of socialism. It is way planted in the middle age and older generations so why not use such fear. After all no old or basic fear should be left unexploited according to the right wing! :sarcasm:
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