can we ever escape this

[undergroundpanther]

...when but no one has ever mentioned what I’ve always thought of as one of the most important sections of that book. This is the section where I describe how scientists set out to intentionally drive monkeys insane, to turn them into, to use their words, “monster mothers.” Now, part of the reason I put in that section is to ask the implicit question: What sort of evil people would set out to drive some group of others insane?
http://www.endgamethebook.org/Excerpts/17-Permanent-Insanity.htm

"Virtually all of the specific economic policies advocated by the Italian and German fascists of the 1930s have also been adopted in the United States in some form, and continue to be adopted to this day." — Thomas J. DiLorenzo
http://www.promethea.org/Misc_Compositions/PrometheanCapitalism/Fascism.html

As quoted in The Book of Italian Wisdom (2003) by Antonio Santi, p. 50
* The struggle between the two worlds can permit no compromises. The new cycle which begins with the ninth year of the Fascist regime places the alternative in even greater relief — either we or they, either their ideas or ours, either our State or theirs!


“What we want . . .
is the complete destruction of the domination and exploitation of man by man;
we want men united as brothers by a consensus and desired solidarity,
all cooperating voluntarily for the well being of all;
We want society to be constituted for the purpose of supplying everybody
with the means for achieving the maximum well-being,
the maximum possible moral and spiritual development;
we want bread, freedom, love and science--for everybody.”Errico Malatesta (1853-1932)


The planet is dying,the air becoming toxic,the polar caps falling into the sea,the gulf of mexico is dead,.Death comes to millions of the poor and animal life regularly. the rich get so many privileges,the millionaires have every want given them they are constantly appeased no one dares stand against them..Everyone denies life is being snuffed out on this globe.People deny how abusive people are, so many addicts,how people suffer and suicide is rampant along with pedophilia rape murder,torture, There are police paid by the state protecting the well being of those with power.The streets are not safe to walk,there is no way to go anywhere if you lack money,no where to socialize, nothing to do. The rich are able to avoid the masses and mess and have long stopped caring about those miserable things out there,water is very expensive, And the men beat kids, mothers, wives rape,and kill and no one stops them.No one cares,they just go on like NOTHING is happening...tigers are going extinct because rich chinese men want male babies and boners.

Waitaminute That is the world we are living in RIGHT NOW


Say I was invited to leave on a ship to go to another planet, to colonize a dry dusty place with no air or water,no life as far as anyone can tell.. Do I go?
No, I would kill myself. I would already be dead if I had to be numb to exist..Nothing can compensate for a living world I could be part of and belong to. .

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Hope...???

Loose lips sink corporate ships !!!! If you notice a corporation is doing evil to an employee,a patient,a client,stealing,rigging the game,selling shoddy products/services,endangering the commons or access to it, EXPOSE it,TAKE the RISK. If the owners decide to fire you than let them. The way things are going now there soon there will be plenty of allies out there to fight with you.As people lose jobs they will be forced to wake up from the sleep of false security corporations sold them,They will eventually move past placation and seeking a job while none exist,they'll get past desperation,move past the rage & anger, and be ready to take the masked sociopath corporate beast screwing the world down,because they want to live. They'll coldly be translating ideas into actions because they know placating and trying to enslave themselves to corporate masters that do not want them, is hurting us all...
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We have been too kind to those who are killing the planet.

We have been inexcusably, unforgivably, insanely kind.
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So,before the proverbial shit hits the fan, Decide what you want to do with what you know.Got corporate patents,secrets, injustices or anything else that a corporate executive would demand be covered up,spun or lied about? Than ask yourself if sitting on that story is it helping or hurting you or non-corporate others. Decide if or when to Show and tell the truth. If you whistle blow,etc. it can have an effect even on the local level.Corporations can die, like a suckling piglet with an unchecked case of navel bleeding. I await corporate death via a bloodletting from it's own stolen guts inflicting a billion cuts from the inside out..

Let there be a million + corporate "wikileakers" coming forth from every corporate parasite pore the truth posted from the web, to zines,to copies of documents made into posters, taped to telephone poles,glued to vacant storefront windows with wheat paste or put in neighborhood mailboxes. Let the genuine truth be told from whistle blowers popping up like flowers bursting from the cemented facades everywhere.Spoken about out loud just to sent tongues wagging and more eyes prying for more to know. Voices rising from the dark about the ugly running through the corporate criminal social networks, about the threats to our world and well being spoken,written and shouted from the bottom up to affect this scam & the perpetrators of it hiding from our rightful rage in their lairs of luxury taken into prisons.I want it to hit them like a fevered nightmare that makes any wall street hedge manager want to jump out his office window,I want that nightmare of wall street to come TRUE.Ego death for the powerful.
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Ever notice those with power now are insulated,protected,and more destructive than ever before? Insulated, untouchable, unperturbed beautiful minds,nothing the poor suffer ever reaches their emotions or minds enough to get them to change things.
Yet they regularly intrude into our lives,via corporate questions data mining military surveillance,etc.etc. They occupy our thoughts and minds their decisions rob us deny us our humanity,make us too busy to think or rest or find the causes of our condition..Too scared to feel.

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“When you have a society organized so those at the top benefit from the labor of the majority, you have some strong incentives to develop the kind of self-hood that gets you there. The only kind of self-hood that gets you there is the kind of self-hood that allows you to numb your empathies. To maintain the system of dominance, it’s crucial that the elite learns this empathic numbness, akin to what Robert Jay Lifton calls ‘psychic numbing,’ so its members can control and when necessary torture and kill without being undone. If its members are incapable of numbing, or if they have not been trained properly, the system of domination will collapse.”
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I must admit,I realized I am incapable of numbing...If I talk about what hurts me,I am undone, it's like it just happened 15 minutes ago.I cry at a sunset because it's so beautiful ,I hold my cat and bury my face in his fur smelling his almost floral scent and he bumps me with his soft head,in reply than he looks into my eyes I'm undone!! I adore him, my Sparkle-cat,I love him!!! Oh Kali my snaky girl your coils shine rainbows, I Love you,OMG,look at the rabbits out in the yard they are so cute playing,I LOVE them!!

I see an abuser being an ass and I want to eviscerate the asshole right there.I listen to a friend describe a dilemma she has,but I can see plain as day she being manipulated by her abusive family and inside all I want to do is go over there with a baseball bat and start thumping skulls...)I have caught so much shit by not being able to numb,they call me crazy,but I'm not crazy,I'm sane and I know evil. And I will stand up and do anything to STOP evil and abuse including ending their games and using my voice. I have made a commitment to myself..to NEVER numb myself, to never be a bystander,a perpetrator or a victim.I hate this culture of domination,I hate abusers.I want abusers to lose all their rewards they get by abusing other people.I would rather die than be numbed for ever.But seems most of society has chosen the deny and numb it all away option.
So I am treated like crap because I don't "play the game" "too honest" etc.etc.



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“rarely mentioned in discussions of abuse,” it “is actually one of the most important dynamics: the benefits that an abuser gets that make his behavior desirable to him."
As Bancroft writes, “Over time, the man grows attached to his ballooning collection of comforts and privileges.”William Harper’s 1837 defense of slavery: “The coercion of Slavery alone is adequate to form man to habits of labour. Without it, there can be no accumulation of property, no providence for the future, no taste for comforts or elegancies, which are the characteristics and essentials of civilization.”
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Never forget any good hearted desire you have for love,peace.. it is manifested by living in a community,both free & protective,accomodating,and sharing, trusting & understanding, open and comforting, it makes for a warm place to land after a traumatic incident or a traumatic life. It is within all of us who have a conscience and the capacity for empathy and compassion,tempered with wisdom,knowledge and a thirst for right relationship through a deep thought through understanding of the right use of power:(swift justice) and remembering the experiences of living through the abuse of power(corruption of justice,abuse,poverty,being hurt etc.) and deciding to not by-stand,become a perpetrator or a victim... And the sociopaths Empire we live in will NEVER tolerate a community in it's midst, if we make one there will be consequences....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27th_G8_summit
http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/3/1/9/2/p31928_index.html
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A lack of an identity is one of the reasons so many abusers kill their partners when their partners try to leave. They’re not only losing their partners (and punching bags) but their identities as well.”That’s also one of the reasons this culture must kill all non-civilized peoples, both human and nonhuman: in order to preclude the possibility of our escape.
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http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5794/


Hmm So,having a clear defined ego is healthy? or is it sick? Look at the work of corporate and political ego maniacs and decide what is sane or healthy about them.
Why do things keep staying the same? Is it for fearing the unknown? Fear of creating another ring of hell on earth,as this hell grows colder. It is no cold comfort being in hell for aeons because as a people capable of so much yet we believe we are tethered and we are by the human condition..unwilling to risk,squeamish about what we may have to do to exercise the right use of our own power, letting sociopaths have the power to corrupt us inside,own us via fear..profit and threats as they destroy cherished concepts of freedom,solidarity,love,justice,and right relationships.

be twisted via our language until for lack of a way to EXPRESS our true selves we mimic.Secretly empty inside feeling an unnamed longing the corporations teach us to fill up buying more things and puffing up our egos. Do we ever wonder why keep our noses to the grindstone and wear the blinders our corporate overlords tell us to wear? Why do we have to be groomed from childhood to living in the cage of career? Why as it has always been lived,wondering if there ever was another way life to live somewhere else out there....
http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/11/the-wisdom-of-indigenous-cultures-2/
"(The Iroquois League) was a model social order in many ways superior to the white man 's culture of the day=85Its democratic form of government more nearly approached perfection than any that has been tried to date." -- Elmore Reaman 1967
http://www.lightparty.com/Spirituality/Iroquois.html


Change begins and ends with YOU and I,as it always HAS ,Or so we are told.Like A drop in an ocean sends out doppler waves that can travel to the ends of the earth, if not met with interference..A storm of billions,can overcome interference by interfering being much bigger than a few. Billions dropping the truth upon the seas of desperation and fear can make a flood of realization come from underground and the sky that can topple the most fortified,forbidden and hidden gated enclaves of the exploiter class and their hoarded wealth and change a social landscape FOREVER. But will what I write CHANGE anything? What anyone writes no matter how profound and true,,where is the change?

It hasn't happened yet.


Here is the story in the animal world,of a community given a change. And it made the culture able change their culture.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/no-time-for-bullies-baboons-retool-their-culture.html

I wonder how many opportunities like that were denied,overlooked disregarded or called "crazy"by humanity?


When Adolf Hitler heard how Mussolini was executed and put on public display, he vowed he would not let this happen to him. A few days later, Hitler shot his mistress and new wife, Eva Braunn, and then swallowing some poison, he shot himself in the mouth. Following Hitler's orders, their bodies were placed in a shell hole outside of his Berlin bunker and burned. The Russians found remains of his teeth.
http://www.custermen.com/ItalyWW2/ILDUCE/Mussolini.htm


Let’s ask this another way: Would a book have changed Hitler? I don’t think so. Unless it exploded.

http://www.endgamethebook.org/excerpts.html

We inhabit, in the words of Ivan Illich, "a world into which nobody fits who has not been crushed and molded by sixteen years of formal education."i The very idea of having to be at a job "on time" was appalling to early industrial laborers, who also refused the numbing repetitiveness of industrial work until the specter of starvation compelled them. What truly self-respecting person would spend a life marketing soda pop or chewing gum unless they were somehow broken by repeated threats to survival? To participate in our society's depredations is an indignity.

A corporate executive recently confessed to me that his job consisted of lying to the customer; another that his job consisted of frightening customers into accepting digital security products that they really didn't need. An elite lawyer described his job as, "I take money from one rich son-of-a-bitch and give it to another rich son-of-a-bitch." Part of my job at Penn State is to pass judgment on students by issuing them a grade. To be sure, there are many people fortunate enough to have interesting jobs, creative jobs, perhaps even meaningful jobs, but even if you love your work, what do you have to put up with in order to do it?

Indignity is hard to avoid when our whole economy revolves around the creation and fulfillment of phony needs. It is hard to avoid when our institutions depend on standardization of roles. It is hard to avoid when the profitability and even survival of a company conflicts with human and community values. We all know this, yet we feel compelled to participate. To participate in any form of injustice, humiliation, or degradation, of people or the environment, is itself degrading. What does it take to get a divine human spirit to participate in this? It requires its breaking, so that we dare not say no.

http://www.ascentofhumanity.com/chapter5-5.php
http://www.content4reprint.com/personal-development/how-to-break-free-of-the-addiction-to-possessiveness-and-control.htm

[bobbolink]

1. This really stands out to me:

"A lack of an identity is one of the reasons so many abusers kill their partners when their partners try to leave. They’re not only losing their partners (and punching bags) but their identities as well.”That’s also one of the reasons this culture must kill all non-civilized peoples, both human and nonhuman: in order to preclude the possibility of our escape."

I see this in connection with the treatment so many of us receive in the "helping" agencies.

They do their damnedest to kill our spirits. Identity.... yes, they want to alter who we are.... we are, in their estimation, flawed, because if they see us as whole human beings who have been screwed over by their society, then they have to do some soul-searching.

As always, panther, you are spot on in terms of bullying and the violence against people at the bottom of the societal ladder!

:applause:

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. I agree. It's a point worth exploring at both the individual and societal levels.

[maryf]

2. K&R

Bookmarking to read completely, thanks!!

[Iggo]

6. Me, too.

Is that the whole book? Sheesh!

[niyad]

4. k and r for a most important and valuable post.

[ThomCat]

5. This is half a dozen great posts instead of just 1.

:)