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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:15 PM Original message |
Guardian: How WikiLeaks Altered The Way We See The World In Just A Week |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. HOW exactly did it "change the way we see the world"? |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Many Americans DO live in a shockingly naive and uninformed world |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Those same shockingly naive and uninformed Americans could care less about the story. They're too |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I'm pretty busy doing all those things, and I still find the time to stay informed. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I'm implying that a large percentage of Americans could care less. They don't read, they don't watch |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Well, I can't argue about the gap between what is and what should be |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I think most people believe they live in the "worst of times". Listening to my folks who actually |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. We can also vote by keeping our wallets closed |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Americans aren't political because they've been taught not to be .... |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 05:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
52. then why are you reading and posting on DU |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. They are not voting because they are being given nothing to vote FOR .... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Excellent post n/t |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. It means, if we start a war with Iran now, we will NOT be able to say |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Those naive and uninformed Americans don't even read newspapers and could care less. That's my point |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
48. "dumb, stupid animals to be used" as pawns for foreign policy .... Kissinger |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Yes, but sadly, I don't think those will be the ones that will be open to stuff like this. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. +1000% --- |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. You just answered your own question with the "astonishingly naive world" part. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. it confirms the certainty we already have that most public political statements are two faced lies |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Actually, it's more about the changes since 9/11 and not since 1500. |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Biz as normal.. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Well, if true |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. the psychotic response of the Elites to the release |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Well for one thing..... |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. I think you're totally missing the point - it's bolded in the OP |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. US Cluster bombed Yemen and killed 21 kids and we covered it up. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Keep telling it -- !! It's truth everyone needs to hear -- !! |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. It is raw data. If someone took one part of it, say the UN spying, and addressed Sec. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
51. Exactly so |
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hedgetrimmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. Looks like the USG went through the body scan! n/t |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Although not completely analogous, a very important analogy |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. They not only went through the "BS" but they got the "BackSkatter" revealing Private Parts...! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. Plleeeeeeeeeeese |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. You don't read the news much, do you? Try searching |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. LOL. Not only will it be forgotten, most Americans won't even read the articles in the first place. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Which is how we got where we now are. n/t |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Perhaps but I was only responding to the claim that WikiLeaks Altered The Way We See The World In |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Hyperbole, maybe. But nonetheless true. n/t |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. It can't be hyperbole and true. I think it's hyperbole. It may have changed the way the DOS |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. "Obama is the greatest black president that the US has ever had!!!" |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. "The bag weighed a ton". Hyperbole helps to make the point that the bag was very heavy although |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Well, it did alter the way I see the world. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. K & R nt |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
20. recommend |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
27. Ignorance is a dream in HELL |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
31. You do get a sense when you start reading the cables, |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. They are the elites playing games with the peasants' lives. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. SABRINA! You Nailed It! Put into words the uneasy nagging questions |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Chomsky called it their "bitter hatred of democracy". |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. They certainly do act like they fear democracy, more and more. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Very, very well put. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. They are a mirror image of TPB who put them in charge .... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
38. K&R |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
53. and people here fought nearly to the death to have hillary president. |
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