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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:01 AM
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What are our Democrats going to do about the growing inequality in America? Nothing?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/opinion/18kristof.html?scp=1&sq=kristof%20hedge&st=cse

Op-Ed Columnist
A Hedge Fund Republic?By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: November 17, 2010

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But there is also a larger question: What kind of a country do we aspire to be? Would we really want to be the kind of plutocracy where the richest 1 percent possesses more net worth than the bottom 90 percent?

Oops! That’s already us. The top 1 percent of Americans owns 34 percent of America’s private net worth, according to figures compiled by the Economic Policy Institute in Washington. The bottom 90 percent owns just 29 percent.

That also means that the top 10 percent controls more than 70 percent of Americans’ total net worth.

Emmanuel Saez, an economist at the University of California at Berkeley who is one of the world’s leading experts on inequality, notes that for most of American history, income distribution was significantly more equal than today. And other capitalist countries do not suffer disparities as great as ours.

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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:18 AM
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1. Kristof doesn't mention Democats at all in his op-ed piece....
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 09:23 AM by SidDithers
I don't think he would agree with the conclusion you've drawn from his article in your OP subject line.

Unrec & hide.

Sid

Edit: better wording
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:36 AM
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4. I agree with you.
I can't understand the author of the OP coming to this conclusion-it makes no sense.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:39 AM
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5. Rec. I think he would agree with the conclusion of the OP. nm
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:55 AM
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13. Mean while we argue about Birth Certificates and Military Records
rather then the actual health of the country

I can say the argument of "Left or Right Politics" is merely anesthesia for the masses while our elected representatives are the paid lap-dogs of the Wealthy Elite

And then I see members of Congress in my own country who argue that it would be financially reckless to extend unemployment benefits during a terrible recession, yet they insist on granting $370,000 tax breaks to the richest Americans. I don’t know if that makes us a banana republic or a hedge fund republic, but it’s not healthy in any republic.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:13 AM
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16. "Our" Ds are absolutely complicit
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 10:14 AM by bread_and_roses
from the wars for resources that benefit the bottom line of the Corps to off-shoring to tax breaks for the like of IBM to the latest financial and health "reforms," to to to... the Ds are absolutely in the pockets of the Oligarchs.

I can't even imagine the shade of rose-colored glasses that can deny that.

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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:19 AM
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22. Misleading subject line. Conclusory, as the lawyers would say. (NT)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:21 AM
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2. recommend
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:31 AM
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3. the democrats ....


no they will appear to do something but nothing will be done.

we have been beaten into a nation of cowards.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:41 AM
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6. repeal the tax cuts for the rich but extend them for everyone else
what else can they do?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:42 AM
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7. What can they do really?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:48 AM
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9. Try what worked for a Republican president...
Teddy Roosevelt reigned in the "great trusts" through legislation.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:53 AM
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12. That is a great idea. However, in today's world, anyone who tried
it would be attacked by big money and party big wigs connected to K street.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:02 AM
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14. Most likely assassinated...
They failed to take down FDR but not for lack of trying. They succeeded with the Kennedy's and MLK Jr.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:41 AM
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19. Exactly.
Even my own political heroes own stock in Chertoff's nudie scanners.

We can't overhaul the system -- including campaign finance reform -- while the same players make the laws. It seems impossible.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:06 AM
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21. And that's the real catch when they are the only ones that make
up the voting choices.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:30 AM
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23. It was always thus.
That stuff is simply not new to this time, it is a political constant in all history. It is fun to pretend that this is the first day of politics, but this is just another day in politics.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:42 AM
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24. Not new as the anti-trust fight against the Robber Barons indicates.
What is new is nobody fighting back.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:45 AM
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8. Good question, Karmadillo. Where are the Democrats on wealth inequality?
From the OP:

The top 1 percent of Americans owns 34 percent of America’s private net worth, according to figures compiled by the Economic Policy Institute in Washington. The bottom 90 percent owns just 29 percent.

If our Democratic representatives don't see a problem, they're not the kind of Democrats who should hold office.

K&R.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:48 AM
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10. Ya - pretty much
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:50 AM
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11. Once again it's "What can 'they' do"....
instead of what can I do.

Why can't we stop waiting for help and start helping ourselves?

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:10 AM
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15. Democrats can do very little if they do not at least make any attempt...nt
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:16 AM
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17. First thing, they have to change the debate.
They have to plant the seed of the discussion in the peoples minds. Until then, it will remain in the darkness.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:23 AM
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18. Democratic and Republican politicians, both
will go right along with it.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:00 AM
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20. An excellent read...
...good to see it in the NYT.

And yes, I too would like to know what our Democrats are doing about it.

I remember a time when the Democratic Party could reasonably lay claim to be on the side of the working men and women of this country. Now, not so much. They get paid by the big business lobbyists just like the Republicans do. They do union busting with the best of them. The difference between the parties now seems to be, the Republicans will cut us off at the knees and leave us to bleed, while the Democrats will only cut us off at the ankles and they will throw us something to help staunch the bleeding.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 12:14 PM
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25. Obama already supports what Kristof recommends in the article.
So that's part of the answer.
They could also:
Use middle class tax cuts to make the tax code more progressive.
Pass more regulation on Wall Street and speculative lending.
Spend more on infrastructure projects to great good paying jobs.

All of these things have already been done in the last two years.

Next, we should create more jobs building a green energy infrastructure. Obama already made that the focus of the stimulus bill, but we need to do more by passing a climate change bill through Congress.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:48 PM
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26. proactively introduce policies that accelerate it, then scream that we're ungrateful
because there's only so much they can do given Bush's mess and those nasty obstructionists?
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:10 PM
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27. Send taxes back to states that they come from.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 02:12 PM by bluestate10
Blue states pay an astounding amount of federal taxes when compared to red states. The same goes for FICA and Medicare taxes. My solution would be for the FEDs to send all except 15% of the money collected from each state back to the state, and remove all federal subsidies to states. Blue states will be able to support their aged and poor, fund education, fund renewable energy growth, and some will even be able to give citizens a tax cut on top of that.

My view was called advocating states rights by one poster. Nothing could be farther from the truth. States rights as we know them were arguments set forth by southerners to allow first slavery, then Jim Crow laws. By sending 85% of federal income tax, 100% of FICA and 100% of Medicare taxes back to states then demanding that states care for their aged, poor, do highway maintenance, et al, will finally produce a circumstance where red states voters see the folly of their votes. As long as blue state voters shoulder the cost of government in red states, red state voters will continue to vote blindly and call blue state voters idiots afterward. I for one, am tired of that dynamic and am prepared for a showdown that I know my state will come out a winner from.
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