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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 09:02 PM
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young women commits suicide. Her alleged rapist remains on Notre Dame football team
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/11/officials-change-accounts-of-notre-dame-investigation.html


Officials change accounts of Notre Dame investigation
November 23, 2010 6:39 PM | No Comments
The circumstances surrounding the Notre Dame police department's investigation into an alleged sexual attack by a football player have become more muddled as two Indiana law-enforcement agencies this week abruptly changed their accounts of contacts with campus police.

The St. Joseph County Police Department said today that university officials did inform them of the sexual attack allegation by a 19-year-old Northbrook woman made shortly before she died from an apparent suicide in September.

In a report Sunday detailing Elizabeth "Lizzy" Seeberg's sexual battery complaint, Assistant Chief William Redman was quoted saying the department investigating Seeberg's death had not been told about her sexual attack complaint. Redman said that after the story was published, a detective investigating the death told him that Notre Dame police had called him a couple days after he was assigned to the matter to inform him about her allegation.

The detective did not document the phone call, Redman said. The detective also did not mention the sexual attack complaint in his official report, even though it preceded her apparent suicide, according to the assistant chief.

"He just didn't feel it was important," Redman said Tuesday, adding he did not fault the detective for the omission. "There was nothing suspicious about her death."


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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 09:07 PM
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1. Rape is not important. It didn't happen to him. n/t
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 09:14 PM
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2. "The detective did not document the call." What the fuck does that mean?
Why the fuck aren't the lines recorded? At my job, if I call for a pizza it gets recorded and logged and archived for not less than six months.

But a detective on a rape case can simply fail to document the call?!? Who the hell set up that policy?


What a sick and tragic story.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 09:48 PM
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3. Forget it, Orrex. It's Notre Dame Town.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:47 PM
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4. Like Sewanee Town


they make up their own goddamned rules, justice be damned.

My sympathies to this young woman's family.

My derision for the police force....and a pox on the young man and his house if he did, in fact, rape this young woman.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:09 AM
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5. I'm too pissed to say much of anything.
"He just didn't feel it was important,"

Of course not. Why would a rape be important? Fuck them. (sorry about the language)
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:26 AM
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6. That is so sad. Sexual assault is the least prosecuted crime. Many times women and girls don't
realize just how vulnerable they are in our society in relation to sexual assault and its aftermath until it happens to them. I wish they had prosecuted the guy who hurt her, or at the very least, that she had been told that she was certainly not alone in having a sexual assault against her go unpunished, especially when the guy in question is an athlete, actor, etc. Our society has a lot of work to do in this area.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 04:20 AM
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7. before the outrage gets too bad...
...consider that detectives investigating deaths have no reason or duty to investigate why anyone commits suicide. Once a death is determined to be a suicide where is the criminal case? Claims of others causing suicide are matters for civil courts if at all. In the context of a CRIME investigation, any reason for her suicide is not important.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 10:25 AM
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10. as a matter of curiousity, how much time and attention do you think would have been given had it
been the athlete committing suicide?
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 04:22 AM
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8. This just...there's no words.
:cry:
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 10:24 AM
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9. there truly are no words. . .my heart goes out to her family and loved ones.
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