Sick of MSNBC

[EV_Ares]

Seems like it has been promote Sarah Palin morning on the show.

Nora O'Donnell on now basically hawking Palin's new book talking about all the "red meat", basically a footprint for here 2012 campaign.

Earlier on Tom Brokow supporting the pharmaceutical industry, how great they are putting so much of their money back into R&D.

Man, you have to really look and search to get good basic news nowadays.

Where the hell is this liberal media you hear about all the time?

[BeyondGeography]

1. Has Tom Brokaw addressed how the Greatest Generation were handed the world and fucked it up?

Didn't think so.

[lunatica]

11. I thought us Baby Boomers, the children of the Greatest Generation fucked it up

There's more than a few DUers who believe it's all our fault.

Brokaw seems to believe that The Greatest Generation saved the world in WWII and The Baby Boomers ruined it with Vietnam.

[Bigmack]

14. It's not generational...

it's the final stage of Capitalism. The predatory kind.

The Greatest Generation were trying to get back to "normal" after the war years. They were trying to live the American Dream they thought they fought for. They worked hard, had kids, built suburbs....

The Boomers took all that and tried to build on it. They invented and perfected and used new technologies. They went to college and got advanced degrees. They lived the consumer-driven life that their parents wanted for them... to the hilt.

While the GGs and the Boomers were working their asses off to make their lives, the fucking Selfish Bastards were gaming them. Gaming the system. Becoming predators beyond anything we've known.

We can blame both groups for getting screwed - if we want to blame the victim here. I prefer to blame the greedheads.

[lunatica]

16. I didn't mean to come across as blaming any generation

I should probably have used the sarcasm gif. And you're right. Blame can be placed on the Capitalist gamers.

[SOS]

21. Exactly

The panic of 1907 and the crash of 1929.

Neither boomers or WW2 generation involved.

These things happen when capitalists are allowed to own and operate a nation for their private profit
at the expense of the people.

Usually happens when the memory of the last catastrophe has sufficiently faded.

[BeyondGeography]

22. Except Vietnam was not the boomers' decision...

I don't like to blame any generation for our problems, nor do I think they should be lionized, as the GG has been.

What bothers me about the so-called GG, is they were Reagan's biggest fans, and too many of their survivors are addicted to Fox.

[blm]

24. Exactly. Harriman, Dulles, GHWBush, Kissinger were NOT Boomers and it was they who set the nation's

course towards global fascism run BY the corporate elite FOR the benefit of the privileged elite.

[Ikonoklast]

32. The Greatest Generation sent Baby Boomers to die in SE Asia.

They were the ones in power at the time.

[madmax]

33. I agree with you

we boomer's, made a lot of positive changes to our society. ERA, Roe v. Wade, Civil Rights Act and more.
Brokow's promotion of the 'The Greatest Generation', helped fuel the geezer's in their wheelchairs to protest HCR and blather about Obama keeping his and the governments hands off 'their Medicare.'

I noticed a big change in those around me of the 'Greatest Generation'. I know I'm generalizing here and my opinion is based on a limited view within the prism of my life.

My apologies to the those here in DU who are members of 'The Greatest Generation', thanks for your sacrifice.

[RKP5637]

2. I've been thinking the same. It's very difficult to find just news without a

RW twist to it ... The notion of liberal media is a delusion thrown around by the RW.

[Lindsay]

3. Corporate media

does not present news, it presents propaganda.

[Stinky The Clown]

4. Worse than Fox . . . . because we expect them not to be

MSNBC has worked hard to promote itself as a left leaning outlet. In fact, they softly peddle right wing crap all the time. Fox is obvious. MSNBC is insidious.

[Monique1]

5. Sorry folks

I rather watch MSNBC than FOX and I won't compare them with FOX. At least at MSNBC we have some people on our side - none at FOX I won't cut off my nose to spite my face. Can we progressives ever be happy for what we have rather wanting more and more and not satisfied with anything we have?

[EV_Ares]

8. So you say, be happy with what you have, don't ask for more and accept the lesser.

Nobody is comparing MSNBC with Fox because there is no comparison, they are doing what their job is and they are doing it well.

Nobody is cutting their nose off to spite their face, simply saying can't we do better.

That said, it appears you end up saying don't try for anything more, just take what you have and be satisfied. I say that is why we are losing because we are not striving for more and better avenues to get our message out to the people.

If we had Fox, I bet the message bout what the health care bill had for so many people would have gotten out. I bet all the things that Obama has done in legislation during his two years would be better known by the general population.

What I am saying is if the right-wing is going to have their own propaganda outlet, to compete we need one as well.

[SargeUNN]

26. How about paying attention to someone who has been there?

I did liberal media for 3 1/2 years and I can tell you that the way we support our media with our little temper explosions if we don't hear exactly what we want ruins any hope of getting the financial support we need to make it work. I wouldn't go back into liberal broadcast again because it is a waste of time, effort and money because too many thinks they know more about doing it than we who do. That is why it is as it is and you are stating exactly why we are overwhelmed by right wing media.

[EV_Ares]

28. I would not call this a temper explosion at all. If you read what I and others are saying

it is simply we are not playing on an equal field. We do not have any political site, news or whatever and we will not win by acting as you suggest. There is nothing wrong with critiquing anything and MSNBC certainly deserves to be critiqued. It supports the right-wing agenda in many ways with their pundit shows and news such as Jansan Company.

Your just sitting back and saying we should appreciate what we have is ludicrous; the same as evidently your temper explosion and running away from what you say you did in liberal broadcasting because things did not go your way. I would have to say we liberals lost nothing there in that case.

[EV_Ares]

6. Exactly Stinky which is what pisses me off. With Fox, you know what you have. Granted

MSNBC has some shows and they are better than Fox but as we can all see, that is not enough if you are going to win in this world of Corporate Media. We are supposed to be happy with them assisting the right in some of their shows.

Remember what Santorum said about Fox; thank god for fox where we can get our message out.

Look at how many potential republican presidential candidates Fox has on their payroll right now and they have had the ability to get their message out for some time now.

Look at who was the big push behind the tea party.

Look how Fox started from day one when President Obama sit down in the Oval office and started trying to tear him down.

No, I don't have to be satisfied with MSNBC, I just feel that if we are going to win, we need to fight with everything we have or we are gone.

[OHdem10]

7. I believe Brokaw is talking about the Boomers screwing things

up. The Greatest Generation were World War II Gerneration
who gave us Prosperity never seen before and the Boomers
messed it up.

[EV_Ares]

10. Yeah, you are right, he wrote the book about The Greatest Generation who went

through WWII who then gave their children the best they could give in education and life so they would not have to go through what they did and they are the boomers born what in 44 & 45. Unfortunately, you could probably say they are the most spoiled generation, wanting it all.

[Traveling_Home]

19. Maybe if the greatest generation hadn't sent the Boomers...

to be slaughtered in 'Nam, torn apart in the Strife of the protest of the 60's and 70's,eaten alive by LBJ's little war and McNamara's insane vieew of US dominance, and then there was Nixon....

If the WWII generation were the greatest they were led by the previous generation to be the greatest.

Boomers were led by the Greatest generation.

The 'Greatest' genration grew of age during WWII. They were in CHARGE of the US as leaders by when the Boomers become of age in the mid-60's and 70's.

[EV_Ares]

29. All good points.

[grahamhgreen]

9. Let's hope she runs - she's one of the few ConservObama can beat.

Unless he unleashes his inne FDR

[EV_Ares]

13. Absolutely, I think what the republicans are so terrified about is the fact that the way

the primaries are set up, she really does have a great chance of capturing the republican nomination.

I just hope we are right there is no way she could win the general election. She is too negative and so hypocritical. Remember how she called President Obama a celebrity which is what she is now, nothing more or less. She has no knowledge and I really don't see how she could handle a presidential debate with Romney and the others who have knowledge of history, foreign affairs and politics.

[grahamhgreen]

15. The Obama/Palin debate would be her death nell, IMHO...

[rainlillie]

12. I love Ed, Keith, Rachel and Lawrence, but

I wish they would stop doing stories on Palin and the rest of the right-wing parrots on Faux.

[Kceres]

23. It seems like all MSNBC does is react to what Fox broadcasts.

In that way Fox is unfortunately setting the standard for MSNBC and CNN.

[rainlillie]

27. You're right. How about a Palin free week on MSNBC.

[EV_Ares]

31. You know, you have hit it. Hadn't thought of it that way but that is what MSNBC does.

[southern_belle]

17. it started with willie geist this morning

on "Way to Early". After about an hour into Morning Joe i couldnt stand it anymore. MSNBC won't be turned on again until The Ed Show this afternoon.

[Fleshdancer]

18. Any mention of Palin will make me turn the channel

Until she declares she's running, she's not news and I don't need to hear about it.

[AndrewP]

20. +1

[SargeUNN]

25. the liberal media is MSNBC

why you don't see that is you don't want to. Also having been in the real liberal media before let me tell you from first hand experience that too many liberals don't support their media and that is why we don't have more. Face it we are too pathetic in our support and why we only have a few.

[EV_Ares]

30. You have already said that and explained about your expertise. However, that is exactly

what we would like to see is some liberal media along with good non-biased coverage as there used to be. However, you need something to go up against the Fox coverage which we do not have.