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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:45 PM
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YOO cuts Shrub loose, Can somebody arrest these creeps now?!1
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http://gawker.com/5696632/torture-memo-author-compares-waterboarding-to-speed-limit

Torture Memo Author Compares Waterboarding to Speed Limit


John Yoo, the lawyer who drafted the Bush Justice Department's "torture memos," compares George W. Bush's decision to waterboard suspected terrorists (based on his legal advice) to a driver's decision to go the full speed limit.

Former Justice Department lawyer and "torture memo" author John Yoo used a speeding metaphor to explain that just because he gave George W. Bush the legal justification for the "unpopular" decision to waterboard Khalid Sheikh Muhammed didn't mean Bush had to go through with it.

"Just because a law says you can drive 65 miles per hour doesn't mean you have to drive 65 miles per hour," Yoo said. "There's still a lot of discretion and choice that the leaders of our government had to make."

"I know part of the job from being the lawyer is defending sometimes unpopular decisions that your clients make. I'm willing to do that part of the job. But I also think that there's no escaping responsibility if people who make the policy decision," Yoo said in an interview on CNN on Friday.

"And I'm prepared and confident in saying that I think my legal judgment then was right under the circumstances. But that doesn't mean that you had to — that President Bush had to choose the policy that they did either," Yoo said.

Bush said in a recent interview promoting his book that he personally gave the CIA the go ahead to use harsh interrogation techniques against KSM. Alberto Gonzales told TPM last week that he was "aware" of the government's policy towards so-called enhanced interrogation techniques, but wouldn't say whether he heard President Bush's statement that he told the CIA "damn right" when asked whether to waterboard the man behind the Sept. 11 attacks.

The American Civil Liberties Union and Amnesty International have called on Attorney General Eric Holder to investigate Bush for the decision, as has Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY).

A longtime DOJ official overruled the finding of DOJ's ethics office that Yoo had engaged in professional misconduct. Holder was said to have been disappointed with the decision.

Yoo, whose belief in executive power goes so far that he thinks the president could have ordered a village of people slaughtered, stood by his legal ruling in the CNN interview.

"Well, I think that torture as used by Congress and the criminal law was undefined. It's never been used in any court decision," Yoo said. "Never been in use by the Justice Department until that time. And so we have this hard job of trying to figure out, do the impressive interrogation methods that the CIA wanted to use at that time, right, a few months after 9/11 violate the criminal statute against torture. I didn't think then or now that the CIA's methods do." ....

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:50 PM
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1. An UNPOPULAR decision?!
Uh, it's a fucking crime against humanity. "Unpopular," my sweet Aunt Fannie.

Oh well, what's the big schmeal anyway? That's just lookin' backward to the past, not forward to the future. Off the table, all of it. Best to just leave it to history 50 or 60 years from now. Then it will be safe to take a look into all of this unpleasantness. So everybody just cool your jets.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:52 PM
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2. Stayng with the bad analogy
he realizes that he did not stay at 55MpH but raced to 140 or faster? More like warp speed.

Yes John you advised your client to BREAK the speed limit and ou know that.

No Water boarding is not legal...
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:08 PM
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3. Never Happen.
Do you remember Sam Donaldson??? Once he said, Presidents
do not go down in this country. It would be wise to
remember that and you do not waste energy.
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