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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:33 PM
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Rep Conyers: "That leaves one place where these answers reside: the White House."
Edited on Wed May-23-07 06:35 PM by understandinglife
Goodling Testimony Revealing (Except to Republicans)

by Congressman John Conyers


Wed May 23, 2007 at 04:01:37 PM PDT

After today’s testimony from Monica Goodling, I think Republicans need to come up with some new talking points on the United States Attorney matter. They keep saying that
"There’s nothing to this investigation... Democrats are on a fishing expedition... There’s no there there.

That has never been true, but today was a crystallizing moment. I thought Ms. Goodling was a good and loquacious witness who brought forward some critical information:

In the first five minutes of this hearing, we learned that in Ms. Goodling's view, Paul McNulty, the Deputy Attorney General, misled the Senate in his testimony about the limited role of the White House, when he personally knew otherwise. We also learned that Mr. McNulty withheld information from the Senate which had the effect of concealing Senator Domenici’s role in the termination of Mr. Iglesias. Ms. Goodling also admitted to taking inappropriate political considerations into account when hiring non-political DOJ employees.

Second, in what I believe may have been the bombshell revelation of the hearing, we learned the Attorney General made public statements that Ms. Goodling believed were inaccurate and that he appeared to be engaged in "coaching" witnesses after the fact, in direct contradiction to the Attorney General's testimony that he had gone out of his way not to speak to any of the fact witnesses. This coaching made Ms. Goodling feel, in her own words "uncomfortable." This raises the most serious questions to date about the conduct of the Attorney General.

Third, we learned the White House was intimately involved in the process of terminating the US Attorneys, from the beginning through final sign off, and Ms. Goodling believes Mr. Rove was involved in the process.

Fourth, Ms. Goodling admitted that laws were violated with regard to the consideration of the hiring of career employees at the Department of Justice. By her own terms, she admitted she "crossed the line" with regard to the hiring of Assistant US Attorneys and Immigration Judges.

Fifth, we learned that there indeed was a ninth US Attorney on the firing list, Mr. Graves from Missouri. Again, this contradicts the testimony of the Attorney General on this matter.


Based on today’s testimony, I believe it is more important than ever that the Judiciary Committee get to the bottom of this matter. It is important that we obtain the testimony of Mr. McNulty, given that Ms. Goodling essentially stated that he misled Congress, as well as Mr. Sampson. It is also imperative that we at long last obtain the cooperation of the White House. Today we learned that laws have been broken and trust has been violated, and the American people deserve to learn the truth.

This leads our investigation in two important directions. The first direction stays at the Department of Justice. That is where serious allegations of improper and potentially criminal activity have been made against senior Department officials. They must answer these allegations in an open and public hearing, under oath.

The second direction is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. If testimony received to date has been truthful, no one at the Justice Department knows who put the names of the United States Attorneys on the list and why. That leaves one place where these answers reside: the White House.

I have given the White House plenty of time to reach a resolution to allow us to obtain the testimony of Administration officials and the documents we need to get answers. My patience has run out and they have days, not weeks, to be forthcoming to the Committee.

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Link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/23/184541/682


Isn't it time to indict and prosecute ... ? let alone, impeach ??


Peace.


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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:39 PM
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1. Far past time...
let's get cracking. Time's a-wasting, and all the world hangs in the balance. Remove these law-breaking, treasonous dim-wits post-haste.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:40 PM
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2. Hey! Conyers!!!!! what about the fucking CAGING????!!!!!!?????
I don't get it....they suppressed THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of votes

didn't Goodling directly speak to that?

according to Thom Hartmann, she did.

or did I hear him incorrectly?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:44 PM
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5. where's the outrage?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:41 PM
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3. OK Rep Conyers, it is past time to chide Gonzo.
It is time to Impeach the AG.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:43 PM
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4. Well done, Mr. Conyers.
That statement more than makes up for the sometimes inept performance of the dems today.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:46 PM
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6. K&R
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:48 PM
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7. Good distillation of the day's entertainment!. . k&r. . (n/t)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:49 PM
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8. In_deed. Rep Conyers will prevail.
:hi:


Peace.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:58 PM
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9. Those Are Fightin Words Right THere. Next Week May Get Verrrrrry Interesting.
Interesting indeed.

Keep it up John!
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:02 PM
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10. Let's hope they back this up with something substantial this time..
my patience is DONE!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:19 PM
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11. Neat links on the House Judiciary site
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:32 PM
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12. Kick & Nominated - this sure takes a long time
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:55 PM
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13. Conyers: My patience has run out...

...and they have days, not weeks, to be forthcoming to the Committee.


So what does that mean, what is Conyers going to do in days?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:35 PM
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16. He sits in a crucial control point for the impeachment process ...
... and I suspect he's well aware of it.

As many of us know, they've got more than enough on Bush, Cheney, Gonzo and Rice to hammer all of them, simultaneously. And, anyone arguing that more important matters exist ought to stop what they are doing, fly to Iraq, put on a uniform and patrol the streets of Baghdad.

:hi: my friend.


Peace.
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G_Leo_Criley Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:31 PM
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17. in days, not weeks ...
Conyers will probably subpoena the people he'd like testifying to his committee - if he has to. Gonzales, Rove and McNulty for example, need to address issues brought up by Goodling's testimony.

glc
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:55 PM
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18. And what if Rove disregards the subpoena?
I seriously doubt Rove will testify.

I also don't think Conyers can issue a warrant and send the police to arrest Rove.

But for all the corruption in this administration, Rove, Cheney & Bush should all go to jail.



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G_Leo_Criley Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 10:01 PM
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19. What if?

Contempt of Congress, I believe.

glc
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:14 AM
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20. "Contempt of Congress, I believe." That's gotta nice ring to it ...
:thumbsup:

What Rep Conyers, and others, are clearly preparing is the day of reckoning with the full force that a vast number of Americans respect the rule of law ... something the serial criminals in the White House and their various minions and money changers think they've escaped ... splat ...


IT IS TRIBUNAL TIME IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ... COMING SOON
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:42 AM
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24. They will never admit to doing anything wrong
What's next, after they ignore the subpoenas, after Contempt of Congress?


:hi:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 08:34 AM
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27. Book'um and jail'um ...
Edited on Thu May-24-07 08:35 AM by understandinglife
:hi:
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:42 PM
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28. I've heard, vaguely, of something
called "inherent contempt" that might work but may not from the Daily Kos, but I believe the normal contempt charges are brought by...the U.S. attorney for D.C. And we're right back where we started.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:34 AM
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21. Serve supoeanas, baby
He already has them authorized, now all he's got to do is have a nice officer of the court deliver them to the proper parties. Namely, Karl Rove.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:12 PM
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14. Conyers wields a scalpel while maintaining his gentle demeanor.
Edited on Wed May-23-07 08:13 PM by bleever

I'm confident that he's proceeding with all possible dispatch, and will not let the committee be sandbagged or played against the clock.

Great day, especially despite the Republicans' inability to see fish.


:hi: UL!


ed: punc.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:31 PM
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15. "... and will not let the committee be sandbagged or played against the clock."
Concur.

:hi: bleever!!


Peace.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:35 AM
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22. CONTEXT: WH Refusal to answer subpoenas
This is the next confrontation. Goodling complied with the subpoenas, and we should see that doc drop soon. However, the WH is on notice from the Comm. and has not responded. Showdown time!
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:38 AM
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23. Shouldn't charges have been already filed for ignoring the subpeonas?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:46 AM
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25. They can impose contempt of Congress and imprison the offenders using
US Capitol officers. Likelier is going to a federal judge to seek an order.

Drip, drip, drip, step, step, step. A walk of a 1,000 miles......
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:53 AM
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26. And, I think we're at milepost 995 ....
:thumbsup:


Peace.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 02:11 PM
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29. Conyers, a bright light on a dark day
:toast:
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