*** Monica Goodling Thread #13 *** CLENIS!

[helderheid]

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[LSK]

1. war on Christians again

WTF is this lunatic talking about??? Violence against Christians??????????

[Daphne08]

3. I can't believe I just heard that insanity! n/t

[KoKo]

4. Why did Conyers leave and why is this religious bloviated being allowed at a Hearing!

These Repugs are acting like THEY are in charge and not the Dems. :shrug:

[underpants]

10. I'm confused-I thought the right was supposed to HATE Harvard

and Yale*

But now I hear that they are the bastions of Calvinistic righteous American tradition (insert blowing horns)

*except the part that makes W look smart for going to both

[ChairmanAgnostic]

12. that point is tattooed into their little brains

every day, until they recite it like the school kids in Brave New World. By that point, it is such a "truth" that it never occurs to them to question it.

We suffer through that even now, in the general public. "They hate us for our freedoms." "WE are fighting them over there to keep them from attacking us here."

[Hepburn]

13. WTF???

Suddenly....a hearing on the firing of the USAttys becomes a hearing on how Christians are being attacked?

GMAFB! :eyes:

[MADem]

2. I am listening--Sheila has taken the chairman's spot, I hear...

She'll run a tight ship!! No crap from the GOP whiners to her, I expect!!!

Man, Monica is talking FAST.....

[fooj]

5. Fuck you! We aren't the ones who showed up with a NAPALM bomb yesterday

at a funeral. A "Christian" did that. Fuck you...rat bastard from Texas.

[Gregorian]

6. GOP- the party that just can't remember stuff.

[LSK]

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[Gregorian]

15. Knock it off! You're a Democrat.

[LSK]

22. "Mr Gonzales, do you have children? I dont recall" - Mike Malloy

:rofl:

[meegbear]

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[Norquist Nemesis]

19. Unless it was during Bill Clinton's administration.

[Gregorian]

25. He was protecting himself. Not his party.

Something like that.

:)

[EarlG]

7. Did I hear that correctly?

Did Rep. Gohmert (R) just suggest that the Democrats on the Committee could possibly be prosecuted for hate crimes if they asked questions involving Monica Goodling's religion?

:rofl:

[LSK]

11. yes you did

[spanone]

14. yep. now it's christians against democrats.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

26. in reality it has been

Christians v. Democracy

is the actual line up, and the score has been 6-0 against us, as we are heading to the top of the seventh.

[RevCheesehead]

58. Bullshit.

If you want to modify that to "fundamentalists," I'll withdraw the flag.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

127. hmmm. let me see.

nope.
I don't discriminate, I have an active allergy to religions of all stripes.

[november3rd]

67. I went to Columbia

Not Harvard or Yale, and I am blessed to be a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. And from my vantage point, the American culture war seems more like a struggle of "Christians" attacking "Christianity."

[JHB]

121. That's "fundies vs. democracy", your noodlyness

They don't own Jesus. Abe Lincoln said they can't.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

129. I like abe.

these folks don't like anything or anyone that might adversely impact their faith-based unreality.

[dogday]

17. Does she even remember what religion she is

because she is not remembering much else.....

[ChairmanAgnostic]

31. it is a believe SYSTEM - remember that - a SYSTEM, like intel design.

and other nonsense they get crammed down their xtian throats.

[AllegroRondo]

23. Only Non-christians are allowed to be persecuted!

:sarcasm:

[underpants]

24. "The Hate crimes bill...

Yes he just did

[sinkingfeeling]

28. Who's asked any thing about religious beliefs? The Repubs just start proclaiming theirs the minute

they open their mouths!!

[Kali]

107. is that pronounced gomer?

as in a castrated male bovine used to test females for heat?

[krispos42]

118. But we can ask her her party affilliation

And her views on abortion

[spanone]

8. I just don' remember. I don't recall. I don't remember any.................

I guess the bible says nothing about lying?

[Catherine Vincent]

16. What's this about the Clenis?

Why are they talking about Big Dawg?

[VP505]

18. Do any of

the Repukes ask anything meaningful, jeez, it seem that they are there to pat her on the A** and parrot all the talking points. "serve at the pleasure of the Pres, etc.

[Botany]

20. Rep Gomer of Tex ASS

way to waste some time :grr:

man she has Gonzo Disease .... I don't remember itis

[sinkingfeeling]

21. So the entire DOJ thinks it's AOK to question respective employees about their

devotion to Christianity and political party, but if any of us, in the performance of our hiring jobs did that, we'd be sued?

[fooj]

27. I'm pissed. These fucking members KNOW that there is

MAJOR CORRUPTION involved here. There know about the money laundering. They KNOW this isn't JUST about voting fraud. FUCK.

[Hepburn]

29. Who the hell....

...does Monica think she is kidding with the BS about not wanting to hurt anyone???

[Mist]

39. Must be her famous "Christian values." nt

[november3rd]

88. You and me

Along with herself, primarily.

[MidwestTransplant]

32. She must have gone to Jesus Camp

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486358/

[spanone]

33. Jesus would have little to do with these people.

[MidwestTransplant]

130. I was making reference to a the movie Jesus Camp. You should see it.

[LSK]

34. half the Congress went with her

:banghead:

[Justitia]

35. I don't remember, I don't recall, I don't remember - repubs have dementia, brain damage -eom

[ChairmanAgnostic]

36. I have been utterly unimpressed by how she has handled herself

young, inexperienced, foolish incapable of complex thinking,

and these assholes honor her for appearing?

i wonder if they forgot the circumstances. like the 5th amendment. like a subpeona. like her quiting because she committed crimes.

[mod mom]

37. Her motive: making things better for other human beings. lol!!!!

[ChiciB1]

50. Yeah And This DOOFUS From Arizona Is Eating The Shit Right Out

of her hands! I swear.... "Beam ME UP Scotty!" What is WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY??? I'm not sure how much more I'm going to be able to take!

I have been so upset about so much that I got this AM and took my Dog to the beach, but came back here and feel like crap ALL OVER AGAIN!!

We need SERIOUS SERIOUS help! We need a REVOLUTION!!!

[november3rd]

104. I couldn't take any more

I had to turn it off at the lunch break. Fortunately, it was in time to miss GWB giving his speech at the Coast Guard Academy with the ship in the background.

Didn't hear a word of it.

I'm strictly reading the diaries now. I've had it with infecting my ears with that poison on CSPAN 3

[ChiciB1]

128. I Left Too... Gave My Dog A Bath! She's So Beee-You-TEE-Full

now!! Just finished brushing her and got back in in time to listen to John Edwards "calm & collected" sticking it to THE IDIOT about the Iraq War!!

[Hepburn]

54. Frank;ly, I have heard the contestants....

...in the Miss America pagent give better answers than Monica has.

[Sapere aude]

38. We don't have the emails thus we don't have any evidence.

The repukes can grandstand and grandstand. They have us beat.

[HeeBGBz]

40. Oh gee, more butt licking suckups

What a surprise. :sarcasm:

[Botany]

41. Help me out she has the same disease that Gonzo has .....

.... Kantrecallshit syndrome.

[ShortnFiery]

46. I suggest: Give Sampson FULL immunity and hammer the shit out of her testimony.

This gal is so disgustingly shameless I could hurl! Well, she's second to the sitting members of the Republican Party here at this questioning.

<squeaky> Thank you. :puke:

[underpants]

42. Article 6- "..but no religious test..."

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article6

[youthere]

43. I'm done folks..I can't take any more. Thanks for the threads...

Good luck. *walks away shaking head sadly*

[LSK]

yeah, Im switching to see if Randi is there today

[Hubert Flottz]

44. Poooor little thang...

Pooooor baby.....

[Bake]

45. Were I the Chairman, I'd tell her that unless her memory improves

she can kiss that immunity deal goodbye. I'm sure the immunity was in exchange for her cooperation as a witness, not for her to sit there and answer everything, "I don't recall."

I'd bet that perks her memory up.

Bake

[LSK]

48. If I were Chair, Id interrupt the next GOPer and ask what they are talking about

[Norquist Nemesis]

51. I'd ask them if they have a question, otherwise they're just wasting time

and can put their "remarks" in the record without full recitation of them.

[VP505]

47. STOP THE HEARING

another Repuke doesn't see any evidence of wrong doing, that settles it. LOL, I guess they haven't figured out they ain't in control anymore.

[ChiciB1]

53. I Sort Of Think THEY ARE IN CONTROL!! Sorry... But This SUCKS!! n/t

[AlCzervik]

49. well i'm calling a day, i am learning nothing from watching this but thank you

for the threads.

[Bake]

52. This hearing is a total waste of time.

Rove is laughing maniacally in his underground closet somewhere.

We've been f***ed. Again.

Bake

[ShortnFiery]

59. If our Democratic Representatives do NOT stand for something ...

almost ANY DAMN THING, well, I'm beginning to think that they are in cahoots with the republicans, i.e., Dems play "good cop" to the Rep's "bad cop."

I'm truly LOSING FAITH in my beloved Democratic Party. Perhaps we should vote for all their Democratic Primary Challengers, with rare exception?

GAWD SHE'S A WORLD CLASS BIMBO! :grr:

[azurnoir]

55. Does Goodling have

immunity from perjury and contempt of Congress too?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

131. Nope.

The immunity only applies to what occured before the hearing. If she perjures herself, she can be charged.

[Hubert Flottz]

56. He's nailing Gonzo now

[underpants]

61. She just gave him up-was his testimony inconsistent?

I do thing there was some inconsistency

[underpants]

62. "I don't know what my perception of that would be"

He was a good man and he tried hard. Can't express an opinion on that.

[Hubert Flottz]

84. Both of these guys have hit some major licks here.

[Norquist Nemesis]

71. Three "inaccurate" testimony statements and ... now Lundgren interrupting

She's in trouble.

[Norquist Nemesis]

57. uh-oh...She's stumped!

Not her call or she doesn't recall.

[JDPriestly]

60. Monica is very worried about being accused of

trying to silence the fired attorneys by threatening that bad things would be said about them if the attorneys questioned the grounds for their firing. She repeatedly interjects that she did not think it would be right to say bad things about ex-employees of the Justice Department. She keeps repeating that mantra. She also made very clear at the beginning that she never had the intention of committing any crime.

Threatening to embarrass the attorneys who were fired if they spoke up is one of the worst of the crimes that she and others in the Justice Department committed. They fired the attorneys to interfere with investigations of Republicans and to punish them for not pursuing claims against Democrats, never clearly articulated any other legitimate reason for firing the attorneys and then threatened the attorneys that their careers would be ruined if the attorneys questioned their firing.

It is rather interesting to see how the Republican representatives are trying to ignore all the incriminating information that Monica Goodling is providing.

Her admissions about the caging lists are very important. She clearly knew about the use of the lists. I wish the representatives could ask her more about how and when she learned of them and of Griffin's involvement with caging lists. Why was a person who used caging lists suggested for a U.S. attorney position.

[budkin]

63. Oh man this is good!

She is scared now.

[HeeBGBz]

65. Now we're getting somewhere!

Oopsy.

[spanone]

66. Best yet

[dogday]

64. She has nailed Gonzales

This is it... He has lied....

[malaise]

74. Got yah Gonzo

Goolding says you lied.

[dogday]

80. WTF????

[global1]

94. Uh-Oh - She Wants To Consult With Her Attorney - Tabling - Objections.....

recess - can't have unilateral recess - parlimentary inquiry - whoa - looks like we've touched a nerve here. Stay tuned.

[Botany]

68. Hot Damn real questions

She is cooking Gonzo

[helderheid]

I JUST got off my conference call - what was asked???

[fooj]

75. Finally. Watch these Republican's come UNGLUED!

[Hubert Flottz]

69. Miz Goodling's lawyer is looking green around the gills.

[budkin]

70. Ooh now we are getting somewhere!

Ownage!!!

[Adsos Letter]

72. ouch...INACCURACIES in Gonzales testimony...and her lawyer

has to get involved

[Adsos Letter]

78. Lundgren even looks like a dick

[Adsos Letter]

90. oooohhhhh...don't know how to deal with issues of truth...

help me...help meeeeee.....

[Norquist Nemesis]

83. And Lundgren picks up the baton--Chair rules

appropriate line of questioning. Chastises the lawyer.

[Norquist Nemesis]

97. Now she wants to consult with her attorney. Move to table. Ayes have it.

Hearing in recess.

DAMMIT!!! They were getting to the bottom of it; now bitching and moaning. Cons want it over with because Monica's is (supposedly) the last witness on the issue.

Just go punch Lundgren in the mouth!

[spanone]

73. Lungren, what a dick

[budkin]

76. LUNGREN AGAIN

Fuckface is flipping...

[fooj]

77. STFU Lundgren.

[L. Coyote]

79. "I'm not sure that I understand." That may have been a lie to Congress!

She just did not want to answer that question because of its implications.

[budkin]

81. Woo hoo!!!!

This is awesome!!!

[npincus]

82. it' GREAT to be the MAJORITY

[underpants]

85. "He was certainly at the November 27th meeting"

So you believe that to be another piece of inaccurate testimony?

Yes it was

[spanone]

86. She needs to consult with her attoney, on how to proceed with her lie.

[fooj]

How come she can do that?

[Gregorian]

87. Oops. The truth is so inconvenient. Please stop! Please stop!

[ShortnFiery]

Dumb ass Republicans are such BULLIES!!! n/t

[chimpymustgo]

108. Where is Conyers? Jackson-Lee seems a little unsure how to proceed.

Voting now. Lundgren being an ass again. Thanks to Arthur Davis for asking JL to keep things going.

[HeeBGBz]

Getting panicky aren't they?

What is move to table?

[budkin]

89. Fuck you REPUGS!!! Elections have consequences!!!

[helderheid]

91. 14 is UP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x950843

[rodeodance]

92. whow, whow In recess. monica consulting with attorney

[rodeodance]

96. They are trying to find the Clerk. Repugs are UPSET

[Sapere aude]

93. Well, we finally get down to the facts and the repukes complain

[Norquist Nemesis]

100. And the camermen come rushing back in! LOL!

[spanone]

95. Just when the questioning gets interesting the thugs intervene.

[rodeodance]

99. the repug did NOT like that line of questions from the dems

[rodeodance]

101. oh, they found the clerk

[Norquist Nemesis]

114. She just testified that Gonzo lied to Congress at least three times

Of course they didn't like it.

It won't surprise me if Lundgren or Sensenbrenner run over and try to unplug the microphones and turn off the lights!

[budkin]

98. Man this is getting ugly... Clerk back!

WOW!!!

[spanone]

Any semblance of truth gets the backs up of the republiks

[rodeodance]

105. what a bunch of whinners

[IChing]

119. What the hell happened I was outside for a while.

I couldn't find out in the thread what the stink was about?


looked like hell broke loose.

[budkin]

102. Where the hell is Conyers??

[budkin]

111. Did someone kidnap Conyers??

Why is he not here??

[dogday]

103. The truth shut the entire freaking room down

amazing....

[fooj]

110. This is HUGE! Look at 'em...

You can tell that damage has been done. The Republicans and the attorney are running around like cockroaches when the light is turned on.

[buzzard]

113. I had to go out for ten minutes what just happened??

[Norquist Nemesis]

120. She testified Gonzo LIED three times to Congress the Cons shut it down

First, her lawyer stood up and he got shut down then Lundgren stepped in. It was moved to table, they're trying to create as much chaos as possible to stop her from testifying further...as well as to interrupt the line of questioning from (first Schiff) then Davis.

[spanone]

106. WHERE IS CONYERS???? We Need Him Now!!!!

[rodeodance]

115. conyers seemed pretty tame today

[rodeodance]

109. needs one more Rec

[Straight Shooter]

124. Your wish is my command.

Done. :)

[L. Coyote]

112. THREAD 14 IS HERE ***** ****** ********* ******* *****THREAD 14 IS HERE

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x950843

[rodeodance]

123. these are the questions that Repugs did not want asked so a repug

objected

[budkin]

116. LOL LUNGREN.... PRICK!

[Botany]

117. Lungren

[dogday]

125. Just made a major ass out of himself...

uh, nevermind....

[MichaelHarris]

122. Has

Playboy offered her money yet?

[Adsos Letter]

126. I find it...quite revealing... that Gohmert and others like him

keep referring to "puritan" or other religious sentiments associated with universities founded PRIOR TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION AND IT'S STRICTURES REGARDING RELIGION AND POLITICS...these guys want to haul us back to the era of state-supported churches.

The whole issue of what a university's founding principles might be assume a radically different significance POST-1st AMENDMENT!!!


edit for spelling: my spelling sucks when I'm furious... :mad: