VIDEO Of Rosie and Hasselcrack Bickering and Yelling on The View - Again

[Matsubara]

...if anyone's interested in seeing it.

http://www.dailymotion.com/TheDlisted/video/x22501_rosie-and-hasselcrack-fight


Hey, it's only a few more weeks we can watch these two go at it....

[Captain Hilts]

1. Only women "bicker." Go all out and call it a "catfight." nt

[poverlay]

11. I use the term "bicker" in relation to men and especially my children all the time. I

love it. It rhymes with so many other things. Like: Snicker, sicker, kicker, wicker, flicker, picker, ... feel free to add your own "..icker" rhyming words.

I do so love a good rhyme.

[Beaverhausen]

14. Those are women, not cats. That is insulting. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

50. Maybe Rosie is a woman but Elizabeth is an immature ******

[Tara_NM]

59. Amen to that

EH comes across as a VERY immature woman on a regular basis which is one of the reasons that I have never liked her as the 20's-30's generation representative on "The View". Her Donald Trump comment to Rosie today forever sealed how indefensible her position is in regards to the war debate.

[snacker]

61. So true...

you could literally hear the audience's gasp when she threw out that Trump comment.

[treestar]

192. Why are you insulting cats?

[libnnc]

15. Rosie is 200% woman

She's more than I ever could be. As a lesbian, she's my hero.

What's your point?

[sheerjoy]

29. WWhat?????? n/t

[libnnc]

35. Which part did you not understand?

That Ro is a woman or that as a lesbian I have great respect and admire her very much.

....what???111!! don't you understand?

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[libnnc]

45. What, you don't like outspoken lesbians?

Interesting since being homophobic is something that lots of us on DU don't tolerate.

[LostinVA]

95. I thought it was an... interesting post, too

[ScreamingMeemie]

110. And timely, seeing as I'm thinking it proves Rosie's point about

being called a big fat, loud lesbian. Very interesting post.

[LostinVA]

131. Yup, my thoughts exactly

[greenbriar]

118. you meant to use hannitys "unbelieveable"

didn't you troll?

[donco6]

126. Exactly. n/t

[Madspirit]

68. I love Rosie

She is a hero to lots of us lesbians.

Some people just cannot handle large, outspoken, in-your-face lesbians or straight women, for that matter. Sexism always rearing it's ugly-assed head.
Lee

[Morgana LaFey]

104. I love Rosie too

and I'm not even lesbian. :D

:hi:

[Madspirit]

140. No but...

You're a Great Friend to the Sapphic among us...like me.

:hi:

I still want...WHEN you can and are UP to it...to look at that thread I sent you because it's Joss and feminist...

Lee

[supermodel]

168. rosie

I agree it seems that the more outspoken a woman is the more people want her to shut up. Im sorry but Rosie says things that most people think. Its time someone shut up that Elisabeth Hasselbeck. I love Rosie. Joy is okay too.. I LOVE LESBIANS!

[Madspirit]

241. Joy is Cool

...and I too love lesbians...<g>
Lee

[wicket]

183. Check your PM

:hi:

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[jgraz]

24. What English dialect do you speak?

In the language I learned, both men and women can, and do, bicker. Also, men and women can bicker at each other. Quit looking for offense where there is none.

[Captain Hilts]

33. Men are rarely described as 'bickering'. Not as bad as 'catfight', but bicker suggests triviality

or insignificance.

[jgraz]

38. sorry, but "rarely" does not imply gender specificity

Unless you are saying that it is sexist to describe an argument between Rosie O'Donnell and Elisabeth Hasselbeck as trivial.

I just finished reading Harry Potter to my niece, and the male characters are described as "bickering" all over the place. Of course, that could just be J.K. Rowling trying to break gender stereotypes... :eyes:

[Captain Hilts]

42. Actually, Rowley said she does like to go against the grain on things like that.

Also, the book is about kids.

Bickering is over trivial things, and men are rarely accused of bickering.

[jgraz]

46. It's "Rowling" and she's often criticized for *reinforcing* stereotypes.

Here's some more data:

Google search for "men" and "bickering"
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=men+bickering&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

1,200,000 hits



Google search for "women" and "bickering"
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=women+bickering&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

1,020,000 hits


That's less, right? Or is the use of "less" in this context sexist?

[Captain Hilts]

49. Rowling, yes! Sorry. Rowling said she doesn't give a **** about what people think...

and she likes to write to provoke at times.

Trivial arguments are described as 'bickering', otherwise, they be 'arguments' or 'disputes'.

[MistressOverdone]

91. I never thought of "bicker"

as gender-specific. It does imply a frivolous argument, but hey...it is daytime TV, not the presidential debates.

(hmmmm...maybe that's a BAD example!)

[Morgana LaFey]

105. Yeah, and what about "the Bickersons" -- that's a whole family,

with probably at least two genders involved -- isn't it?

[LostinVA]

96. Yup

[Matsubara]

130. Men bicker all the time. ESPECIALLY in the so-called "debate" shows.

This particular exchange is remarkable for being loud and long, but very little is actually said.

[Madspirit]

66. Nothing wrong with "bicker"...n/t

[Matsubara]

129. If you think these two are debating like adults, that's your opinion.

I think they both come off like asses, as usual.

Rosie, as usual makes a completely incoherent argument for "our" side.

Funny how when she was ripping on Bill Clinton a few years back, she was able to make sense.

If I remember right, Rosie was 100% behind dumbya after 9-11, too.


Bickering and yelling is what they are doing in this piece.

"You did this, but I geve tou a chance to do this, NO! NO! You did that!"

Hasselcrack is a twit. A real liberal woman would have made minced meat out of her.

Rosie's just about Rosie. She's only a liberal when she feels like it.

[Gato Moteado]

149. i agree with you.

well said.

[Blue-Jay]

170. Only on DU do folks bicker about the word "bickering".

It would funny were it not so stupid.


(OK. It's still funny!)

[AngryAmish]

177. Are you trying to start a catfight?

[treestar]

191. The first thing I think of in the use of that term is for a married couple

As in "Mr. and Mrs. Smith bicker a lot" or calling a couple that fights alot "The Bickertons." I thought bickering actually required a male participant.

Another term with deep dark implications. I hope they at least bickered articulately.

[Blue_Roses]

2. Say what you will about "the View" but Rosie

has brought more to this show in the last nine months, than anyone, ANYONE has in the last nine years. I've watched this show from day one and it finally has removed the "fluff" and gotten down to business with the facts of what this administration has done to our country and it is because Rosie has had the courage to put it out there...

Bottom line.

And as for Elizabeth Hasselbeck, she's a puppet for the GOP, always has been and is even more so now since she has been a guest a the WH dinner. Can't stand her..."views"

[LiberalFighter]

51. She probably trying to make it up married to a 3rd string quarterback

[Tara_NM]

60. re the WH dinner comment

It just floored me that she was invited to the dinner for the Queen. Imagine all that people with actual credentials (unlike EH whose top accomplishment prior to "The View" was being on a reality tv show) Certainly there must have been some better or more deserving rightwingers than EH that could have sat in her seat at that dinner.

[Gato Moteado]

106. actually, maybe it's fitting that she was there

let's face it, the idea of a queen is just so ridiculous. i'm always so baffled at the fact that so many european countries have retained their ceremonial monarchies. it just seems to be something you wouldn't be proud of. additionally, these fake monarchies are such a drain on the economies of these countries. think of what good they could do with all the money and real estate that the royal family sits on in england.

[MistressOverdone]

92. However, would you admit

that her RW positions are a good foil for Rosie? Without the other extreme, she wouldn't have the opportunities to state her positions as forcefully. Echo chambers are boring.

[Blue_Roses]

102. yes, I would.

well said.

[Morgana LaFey]

107. I couldnt, literally COULD NOT watch before Rosie joined and

I'm heartsick that she's leaving, but maybe she'll have her own show again. She has brought SO MUCH to this otherwise totally pointless show.

[Matsubara]

134. Yeah, she elevated it from meaningless fluff...

...to meaningless fluff with occasional political pontificating. Hopefully she did reach an audience that we doesn't often reach.

But it helps to be coherent. This was not coherent.

And have you ever read her blog posts?

[supermodel]

169. rosie

I agree. There will be no reason to watch after this. I heard Roseanne may replace her and Ive seen her on Bill Maher. She has some of the same political views as Rosie and she is also an "in your face" person.

[Matsubara]

133. Yes, there are times when she makes a good point.

There are other times, like this one, where she comes off almost as bad as Hasselcrack.

Hasselcrack is just an airhead - she sounds like some high school girl parroting the talking points she learned from her dad.

[DS1]

3. No thanks

[zbdent]

4. Rosie should have tossed in

"skinny, blonde" when she was saying "Here's how it's going to be spun - Fat lesbian disgusting Rosie attacked pure innocent Christian ..."

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[KamaAina]

58. You could just as easily be talking about Paris Hilton

come to think of it, I'd take Paris Hilton over the twit if it came to that. :scared: At least La Paris wouldn't be trying to annoy me! :P

[Madspirit]

80. Paris

Paris is just a spoiled rich childish person but not inherently evil. This women is Evil...big "E".
Lee

[Tara_NM]

62. stone fox ,eh ?

so attractive makes it ok that she supports the murder and torture of innocent men, women and children in Iraq?

Maybe it's just me but the fact that she has ZERO problem with people being innocent people being murdered to further of GW and Co. overtly evil and immoral agenda makes her monstrously ugly under that all that hair bleach and faux tanned exterior.

[libnnc]

63. faux tan--she does look kinda orange doesn't she?

:puke:

[scorpiogirl]

88. It's not just you.

What you mentioned is exactly why I despise that little snot!

[LostinVA]

99. Yup, interesting post

[Iris]

128. I thought so, too. n/t

[Madspirit]

70. Her NAME IS ROSIE

A LOT of us love her. You hate Mexicans, lesbians, Rosie... Why are you here?
Lee

[libnnc]

73. When my posts on Rosie show up on

"conservative" websites as an example of those crazy traitorous lesbo DUers...we'll know exactly why this "person" was here.

[Madspirit]

77. crazy traitorous lesbo here too

Yup... This one doesn't even hide it well. Check the immigration threads.
Lee

[Madspirit]

79. ...and

A disabled user profile. Another telling sign. Almost always.
Lee

[greenbriar]

120. they are there

I just saw it

[LostinVA]

100. Their profile says why they're here

[LostinVA]

98. She makes Rosie, who looks normal, look like what?

Your comments on this thread are sooo illuminating. Unlike your profile.

[TheWatcher]

111. For those who have been looking for Exhibit A of the type of person who is destroying this country

You need only look at Post #34.

[Matsubara]

135. Hot, blonde, and apparently incapable of thought.

All she does is spout GOP talking points like a Chatty Cathy doll.

At least Rosie says things she actually thought of herself.

[porque no]

136. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife.

Phony Christian proselytizer.

[NotGivingUp]

57. i was thinking the same thing. nt

[AlCzervik]

5. Elizabeth with the football analogies. Good on Rosie for talking about the media spin

about her attacking Elizabeth.

[AlCzervik]

6. omg "I'm all about facts" lol! sure you are Freeper girl.

[npincus]

7. unable to give a "yes" or "no" answer... she wants to remain viable

on "Hannity & Colmes", "O'Lielly", etc.

[mudesi]

30. No. It's because she can't think for herself

She can't give a yes or no answer because she is too afraid (cowardly, if you will!) to say "yes", which is the answer that has already been provided for her by others.

[Tara_NM]

65. yup she didn't expect it

It was quite clear that EH was caught off guard and didn't have a pre planned and pre approved GOP response to Rosie's question today.

Either that or she knew how intensely negative the studio audience would have been toward her if she had spit out what she wanted to say today. Maybe she was frightened to be boo-ed on live tv ???

[youthere]

39. either that or she actually believes the spin but doesn't have the guts to say it to Rosie's face.

[adarling]

8. awesome

I love Rosie, and you know what, as a man, i only started watching this show when she came on. I don't care if she is opinionated...she is a smart and talented woman and i respect her opinion. She does research and forms her own opinion and doesn't repeat mindless garbage like Hasselback does. I wish Rosie was staying but I get the feeling they pushed her out. Rosie and Joy need to leave the view and form their own show, that would be interesting. I like to see people debating and sometimes they do scream over each other but this is a time to be OUTRAGED and when that guest co-host said that is the reason she watches dancing with the stars, it wasn't something to be cheered, it was something to be jeered. Putting your head in the sand and trying to ignore it will not make it go away people. it is time to face the truth head on that we as a nation and a world are spiraling out of control.

Never thought this show would ever produce some of the most intense opinions on tv, its just awesome.

[Maat]

19. Well-said. I agree.

Furthermore, I'd like Rosie (and Joy, if she wishes) to have a political show a la Bill Maher's 'Real Time' on HBO. I would truly enjoy Rosie interviewing the guests that appear on FreeSpeechTV, for example.

I never watched a minute of The View before Rosie started articulating what I feel inside. Go, Rosie!

[LiberalFighter]

53. Best thing to happen would be for the View to fold up

And all because of Elisabeth Hasselbeck!!

[Tara_NM]

69. no... just get rid of that twit instead

EH never belonged on the show to begin with, imho. Even before things got all hot politically. That woman has the emotional and intellectual equivalent of a high school freshman student. She was fine for doing the fluff cooking and fashion stuff but otherwise she is not appropriate for the show content.

[LiberalFighter]

112. I would agree but the top brass need to be sent a message

And the message would be for the show to fold up because they screwed up having the twit on the show.

EH needs to be taken down hard so that she never again graces the inside of any type of tv media.

[greenbriar]

121. EH needs to be taken down hard so that she never again graces the inside of any type of tv media

I agree

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[zbdent]

162. Don't worry ... with all the Rosie fans tuning out, and the E. Hussyback

fans tuning in, the ratings will tank ... and the network will try to "fix" it by hiring more RW shills ... not understanding what they're doing wrong ...

Local RW radio DJ thinks HE'S the reason why the morning spot in Akron gets the good ratings ... but it's funny ... he gets the "women" ratings ... probably because of the female co-host ... not because of him ... station plays what's put up as latest mass-market "hits" ... Mrs. ZBDent has been tuning him out lately ... she's praying for music ...

[AlCzervik]

9. wow this gets better as it goes on.

[DURHAM D]

10. Rosie needs to pick her friends better.

Her feelings are hurt because she thought EH was her friend. Rosie has been too generous toward EH over the past year and now it has come back to bite her. Rosie doesn't understand how Rethugs work (don't work) emotionally.

Also, Rosie is totally being played by Barbara Walters, EH and the executive producer of the show for ratings in the final month. My guess is they are trying to elevate EH in the public view with the idea being to move EH into Rosie's chair.

BW and her producer are "wasting" Rosie for self promotion. EH is a willing tool. I hope that Rosie has figured it out this week. Her final weeks are going to be a living hell.

[Bluebear]

16. 'Rosie doesn't understand how Rethugs work (don't work) emotionally.'

You said it, DD.

[LiberalFighter]

54. I hope the pressure gets to be too much for Elisabeth Hasselbeck

[Tara_NM]

71. too true

I agree that Rosie has been fooled into thinking that EH was or is any sort of real friend. I think Rosie tried to be open minded and have a loving heart but EH is not a good person and so EH abused the situation.

I don't agree that EH will get the mod chair on the view. Think what you will of Barbra Walters but she is not a stupid woman and would never put EH in the mod chair for at least two basic reasons:

a) EH is simply not a very bright woman
b) the show would lose huge amounts of it's mostly liberal/progressive audience

[Bluerthanblue]

90. no- Rosie's fine- it is her friend that need's to do some

personal inventory and make some changes in how she treats others.

If Rosie changes who she is, in response to mz.Haselback's self-righteous hormone fueled sniping, then Rosie'd be allowing hasslebeck to control her- I think Rosie behaved just fine. I think her friend was shrill, rude, and overbearing.- not to mention w r o n g.

[DURHAM D]

116. I didn't say Rosie needs to change - I said she needs to pick

her friends better. I stand by that. Rosie and EH are no longer socializing outside of the show - which is as it should be. After today I doubt that Rosie will ever speak to her again other than during the show.

EH really hurt Rosie's feelings and Rosie (being an adult) today provided EH an opportunity to fix her mistake. It didn't happen and that was EH's last chance. EH is not capable of understanding what, or even that, she has done something wrong. EH and George Bush both suffer from NPD.

Rosie just needed to give EH that final opportunity and then she can walk away knowing that friendship has no meaning for EH.

We all make mistakes in picking our friends. Our task as upright Homo sapiens is to learn to recognize sooner when we have made a mistake and react accordingly. Rosie has reacted appropriately.

[Bluerthanblue]

188. not to nit-pick, but you actually did- if you meant

the statement "Rosie needs to pick her friends better".

My position on this is: Rosie extended the hand of friendship to hassleback- Something many people wouldn't do- hassleback's positions, narcissism (i agree NPD) and past- would be enough of an "excuse" not to 'be-friend' her.

But that ISN'T who Rosie is- and that reality is part of what endears Rosie (to me personally)- Her exuberance, spontaneity, willingness to be ..... rash? To take risks that sometimes end up hurting her in the end- (and can hurt others) is not 'bad'- It is part and parcel of who she is- and I wouldn't want her to change that part of herself because she got hurt- If she did, she would be more like hassleback demonstrates herself to be- one who cares only for those who meet her 'standards' of being 'worthy of notice'-- exclusive- conservative with her compassion and caring

and the world, - particularly this country, has far too many of that kind already.
(imo)
peace-
blu

[Matsubara]

138. I think you're right, but that's a private conversation for off set.

I wish Rosie had kept the focus on issues that relate to the rest of us instead of wasting precious air time chastizing Hasselcrack for her nasty behavior.

People on the right will still think Hasselcrack was right and that Rosie should have explained herself.

And obviously a lot of us on the left are lining up behind Rosie, no matter how little she did to avance understanding on the war in that exchange.

I like Rosie, but she's no Amy Goodman.

[scorpiogirl]

153. People on the right will always think EH was right

because they're living in the same deluded reality. I thought Rosie did great, considering what she was dealing with.

[DURHAM D]

164. I agree with everything you say.

Rosie can't really help herself when she becomes too emotional. She then hates herself (blogs/video blogs about it).

Like most people - Rosie's best asset is also her worst asset.

[Matsubara]

137. If so, they are fools. Hasselbeck is a bore.

For some reason she shows little sparks of life when played against someone as larger-than-life as Rosie, but on her own, who would want to listen to her at all?

[Blue Diadem]

12. WOW!

Thanks for the link.

[libnnc]

13. www.rosie.com

To those who criticize Rosie (and there are PLENTY here on DU) read her blog. She posts her feelings and really interacts with people who post questions. The videos are great too

I need JAHERO!! (Ja=Janette Ro's producer, He=Helene Ro's makeup and hair person, Ro=Rosie----JaHeRo)

They're taking their act on the road this summer (hopefully working out the details soon). Tell them to come to your town to blog!

JAHERO :yourock:

www.rosie.com

[ElizabethDC]

64. Thanks for the link, I love Rosie

and I also love Jen and Dawn in your avatar!

[Gato Moteado]

17. rosie has no game.....

she's been unable to shut down the little blond nazi from the beginning. the nazi just repeats the same old fox news talking points and rosie never has an answer. rosie's too emotional and never thinks about what she's saying. their exchanges look like two 3rd graders yelling at each other in the school yard. it's hard to watch.

wasn't it lisa loeb that made the little nazi boot licker cry without even trying?

i hope they replace rosie with a real ass kicker. a true intelligent, progressive would mop up the floor with the little nazi ann coulter wannabe.

[AwakeAtLast]

18. You said it in your post

Get Lisa Loeb! I love her!

Just a thought. :shrug:

[Lex]

20. Suggestions?

nt

[Gato Moteado]

21. what good could my suggestions possibly do?

the producers of the show don't care what i think. my guess is that they like rosie because she provides an even playing field for dimbulb elizabeth. rosie is so emotional that she speaks before she thinks and invariably sounds stupid. because of that, the ridiculous crap coming out of elizabeth's mouth goes unnoticed.

to be honest, as a comedian rosie is lame also. i'm really not sure how she became so successful. and how does a tard like elizabeth get successful? this show couldn't get real talent so they make do with the lame cast they have. i imagine the really talented people wouldn't waste their time being a part of the show.

the show sucks....it's four people that have no idea what they're talking about yelling at each other without listening to what anyone else has to say. how is it different from garbage like hannity and colmes?

[DURHAM D]

44. You have already admitted elsewhere that you don't watch the

show. Nevertheless you continue to comment about Rosie's poor political performance, even though I have explained to you that she is a comedian and not a politician or left wing talking head.

She is not in the world to please you or the DU.

My thought - you just don't like Rosie period so you come up with sideways crap in order to continue your unrelenting attack on her.

[Gato Moteado]

72. look, i don't dislike rosie.......

....i'm sure she's a very nice person in real life. and i think it's great that she's on the good side of the political fence.

but, she opens her mouth and tries her hand at political discussion and debate. it doesn't matter that she's not a pundit or political hack or whatever. she opens her mouth and represents the left and she does a poor job of it, and i have every right to express my feelings about that. if you can't bury a mental midget like elizabeth hasselbeck, then you've got no game at all. if rosie is a comedian, then she should stick to comedy, though, my guess is that well is dry. she's just not funny.

if she wants to be a talk show host then that's fine. be a talk show host. but when she opens up her uninformed mouth and tries to represent the left, it makes me shudder. and when she and elizabeth get into shouting matches it sounds like two little kids with their feelings hurt lashing out at each other. it's unwatchable. barbara walters should have her ass kicked for subjecting the viewers to that nonsense.

[libnnc]

74. She doesn't try to represent the left

She's speaking her mind. I have no problem with that.

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[DURHAM D]

85. So - You are not a viewer, however, you advise that the viewers

should not be subjected to that nonsense.

Are you even thinking about what you are posting.

Are you the censor God?

Thanks for trying to protect me and others from watching a non-political person do poor political work. Geez.

Note to GaMo - shift lock is provided on the lower corners of both the right and left hand side of your keyboard.

[Gato Moteado]

97. i can see it's become personal now.....

....with your shift lock comment. typing in all lower case is just my style and has been for years. if i were writing a business document or letter, then certainly i'd use mixed case letters. but i'm just typing messages on an internet forum. we don't need style police here. furthermore, why would i use the shift lock key unless i wanted to type in all caps to make it appear that i am yelling? i guess you mean the shift key....not the shift lock key.

as for your other points:

"So - You are not a viewer, however, you advise that the viewers should not be subjected to that nonsense."

yes, i think it's a fair statement to say that the viewers of "the view" are subjected to nonsense when they see rosie and elisabeth arguing like third graders. i got sick of hearing rosie keep asking elisabeth if she really thinks rosie thinks the troops are terrorists. rosie doesn't need elizabeth's approval for anything. if rosie doesn't think the troops are terrorists she should be able to state that on her own and turn the argument around and shove it down elizabeth's throat. if rosie is such a great comedian, you would think she'd know how to do this. i'd hate to see her doing a standup act when a heckler decides to give her some shit. the crybaby third grade routine won't get her very far in a comedy club. let elizabeth hasselbeck try that kind of garbage with bill maher, lewis black, jon stewart, stephen colbert, doug stanhope, whoopi goldberg, robin williams, sara silverman, george carlin or one of many other real comedians and see what happens. i guarantee there will be no "i know you are but what am i?" bickering going on.

"Are you even thinking about what you are posting."
well, first of all, since you were so concerned about my improper use of lower case letters and kind enough to correct me, let me remind you that the "?" key is near the lower right hand side of your keyboard and that a "?" should appear at the end of each question. a "." usually follows statements, not queries.
ok, now that we've got that out of the way...yes, of course i think about what i am posting. i think my opinion is just as valid as yours. i never attacked you, i just expressed how i felt about rosie and somehow you feel insulted by that and feel the need to attack me personally. i guess it's ok to post in a thread about rosie o'donnell as long as the poster agrees with you.

"Are you the censor God?"
i'm not sure what a censor god is. i'm not trying to be a censor. i do, however, think that if "the view" wants to be taken seriously then the producers should come up with some better ideas on how to use the limited time they have to entertain and inform viewers. four people yelling over each other is neither entertaining nor informative. it reminds me of the kind of crap you see on fox news. if you enjoy it, then that's great. you'll keep on watching it and that's fine. i won't watch it, and that's fine too. of course, i couldn't watch it even if i wanted to watch since i can't get the channel it's on where i live. i will watch the videos that people post from the show when i get a chance and if i feel like it i will even comment about it. i probably won't have the same opinion about it as you will, but everyone is different.

"Thanks for trying to protect me and others from watching a non-political person do poor political work. Geez."
i'm not trying to protect you from anything. i'm just pointing out that when rosie (who has positioned herself as a spokesperson for the left) opens her mouth on that show, she isn't doing the left a service. i think her heart is in the right place. i just think she makes herself an easy target for the right wing smear machine. you obviously feel differently, and that's cool. and, i have a hard time respecting a show that would have someone as empty headed and rude as elizabeth hasselbeck as a co-host. it's an insult to intelligent viewers. and, i think it's even worse that there's nobody on the show that is able to put the little nazi in her place once and for all. i'm glad that you're getting enjoyment out of the show and i hope you continue to get enjoyment from it. obviously people are watching the show....they have sponsors. so, don't worry, my opinion won't make or break the show.

one more thing: i watched the extended clip in the other thread. i saw joy's opening rant about bush and i think she expressed herself very well. unfortunately, the little nazi kept interrupting her and talking over her and eventually joy got a bit flustered from it. i really wanted to see joy take a sock and shove it in elizabeth's mouth. the chick sitting next to rosie was annoying too. i'm not sure who she was but she had nothing interesting to add to the conversation that joy was trying to strike up. i really think the show could be so much better.

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[Matsubara]

141. People worship Rosie merely *because* she's an out lesbian and come-lately liberal

But I still remember the Rosie that pretended to be in love with Tom Cruise and tore Bill Clinton a new one in public over Monica.

She's NOT above criticism.

[LostinVA]

184. A lesbian can be "in love" with a man

I think John Stamos is swoonworthy, but don;'t want to have sex with him.


The Bill Clinton thing was unfortunate, but she is a long-time liberal, and everyone has stuff they wish they hadn't said or did.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

227. Uncle Jesse?

:rofl: :hide:

[LostinVA]

238. STFU, Olive Oil Boy

He is way cuter than:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

239. Being a straight guy, I disagree.

:rofl: :hi:

[LostinVA]

240. I'm very surprised by your answer

NOT!!!

[sheerjoy]

190. Here, here! n/t

[Steven_S]

27. Laura Flanders might do a nice job.....

That would be watchable.

[Gato Moteado]

101. how about jeanine garafaolo?

nt

[Maddy McCall]

103. Ummm....NO.

I watched her stumble through the 2004 DNC, and was quite appalled at her lack of knowledge, and her inability to stand up to Republican pundits because her lack of knowledge.

I'm not really impressed with Garafolo at all.

[Gato Moteado]

108. well then, strike that suggestion.

how about whoopi goldberg?

[Maddy McCall]

113. I could dig that. I wish Susan Sarandon would stoop to doing The View.

:D

[Morgana LaFey]

117. whoopi said no way. no how

Someone asked her.

[Gato Moteado]

150. who could blame her, i guess?

why would someone as intelligent as she is want to have equal billing with a dimbulb like EH?

[Matsubara]

142. Not everyone likes Garofalo...

...but I love her, and I think she does know a lot.

But I will admit she's better at comedy than punditry.

[DURHAM D]

31. Rosie is a comedian. EH is a political operative. Duh.

Rosie is not playing the same game that EH, BW and the network is.

Barbara W. is not going to get a progressive - BW is a right wing shill. How do you think BW has gotten all of the interviews with domestic biggies and permission (I assume from both the WH and State Department) for all of her interviews with foreign big shots? She plays it anyway her Masters want it.

[LynneSin]

56. EH is nothing more than a dumb non-celebrity blonde who OD on the grape kool-aid

I'd hardly put her in the same category as Coulter, Malkin, Ingram, etc.

If it wasn't for Survivor, Ms. Hasselbeck would be nothing more than a wife to a seat warmer in the NFL. (worse yet, a seat warmer whose brother is actually very talented)

[Tara_NM]

76. the kool aid comment

LMFAO....the kool aid comment couldn't be more perfect for her and all those like her!

[DURHAM D]

87. Did you know she has done appearances on Fox ?

I think being put in a category with those awful women you mentioned is truly her ambition.

[Tara_NM]

145. well Fox is where she belongs

I am all for free speech and fair consumer marketplace and thus I think FoxNews is the place for EH. There she can be with her own kind (scum, imo) say what she pleases and be employed by a company that is supported by a like minded consumer base.

"The View" is in my book just simply the wrong venue for someone like EH.

[Gato Moteado]

156. exactly, lynne! EH isn't smart enough to be a political operative....

...i think some people here are way over the top.

[joeunderdog]

197. Like, totally, but she has feelings, too, you know.

She looks and sounds like an angry teeny-bopper.

[Matsubara]

143. Didn't she used to date Henry Kissinger?

:puke:

[DURHAM D]

159. Yes.

She also dated Senator John Warner. Most importantly, she "dated" and was a life long friend of Roy Cohn.

[PassingFair]

175. Guess that shoots down my dream candidate, Rachel Maddow.

She could rule that show.

[earth mom]

36. Are you frickin kidding me?!

:wtf:

Rosie makes Elisabi*ch look like the TOTAL asinine fool she is! Rosie has no doubt made millions of people in this country sit up and question what's happening and look deeper for answers than the Faux bullshit that Elisabi*ch spews out! Have you even listened to the audience reaction to what Rosies says? They are behind her close to 100% Very few support Elisabi*ch!

I credit Rosie with making a HUGE difference in this country politically. The tide has turned and she is a major reason why! We are losing big time with her leaving the show!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

37. There are rumors that Roseanne Barr will be taking Rosie's place. Barr is as informed

as any DUer and she can kick some serious ass!

Rosie's heart and soul are in the right place but she often has a hard time articulating what she means. She also gets too defensive.

[DURHAM D]

41. BW would never hire Roseanne Barr - she knows she can't

control her.

From day one BW has controlled Rosie because she knows (l) that Rosie grew up without a mother and BW could pretend to fill that void (2) Rosie has a big soft heart (3) Rosie wants to be liked and to do the right thing.

BW is evil and Rosie was very easy for her to manipulate. Rosie respected BW because of her public image - she had no idea what kind of a private shit storm she was walking into.

In short, Roseanne is not good victim material for BW.

[LiberalFighter]

55. BaaWaa should just retire and go into an old folks home

[Matsubara]

146. Good point. Roseanne would be awesome, though.

She doesn't take shit from anyone. I and I see that sensitive side of Rosie too. I wouldn't be surprised if she cries after the show sometimes.

You can't take this crap too personally. It's about ending the war, not Rosie's and Lizardbreath's personal feelings toward each other.

[scorpiogirl]

155. This instance was completely personal.

That's why it was so heated.

[DURHAM D]

163. Rosie does blog about crying after the show.

She is also tough on herself about being loud and getting caught up in the emotion. Rosie suffers from depression and has recently blogged about needing a time out. She is really miserable and knows she has short-timers disease.

The pundits can't be nearly as tough on Rosie as she will be on herself today and this evening. She really hates it when she is that emotional on the show.

[greenbriar]

93. no, Rosie is just trying to consider others feelings and it bit her

just like all our politicians. They believe others will play fair and they never do

[Lex]

22. Rosie's got more spine for speaking out than just about any Dem I know of.

She may not be polished or get every point just so, but she doesn't allow the right-wing spin to go on and on without objection!

Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes. — Maggie Kuhn

[Bluebear]

23. You said it. nt

[Morgana LaFey]

122. Boy, that's the truth!

She ain't afraid of NUTHIN' ! Yet another reason I love her.

[Matsubara]

148. True that. I hope her replacement is not someone inane.

But honestly I think Joy Behar often gets the left's side across better than Rosie. She expresses it in a way that a lot of middle-class working women 30-55 can relate to.

I think she's smarter than people give her credit for, even if she doesn't always let it out.

[babylonsister]

25. Was this from today? nt

[snacker]

26. Yes. n/t

[babylonsister]

32. Thanks; I had read Joy went off, too, but didn't see that in the

video. :shrug:

[DURHAM D]

47. Joy started out the show by trying to talk about impeachment.

She read a long list of impeachable offenses - including the statement that Bush stole the 2000 election. She lead into her bit by talking about Al Gore's appearance on Larry King last night. Joy said she was angry at Al because he won't run.

EH kept trying to interrupt Joy while she was reading the two page list and Joy kept telling her to be quiet. Then Rosie and EH got into it about what Rosie DID NOT said about our troops being terrorists - this is a continuation of a discussion over at least three shows and also involves BW (who also owes Rosie and apology) but BW has been hiding by not being back on the show. Rosie was seeking an apology from EH for not standing up for her because Rosie has stood up for EH in the past. The argument went on and on and on between Rosie and EH and Joy kept trying to regain control of the show.

Joy knew before today's show started that tensions are running really, really high; hurt feelings are overriding rational thought; and the situation is toxic both back stage and on stage. She was trying to take control and avoid exactly what happened today. And yes, Joy did get mad - after all she is staying on the show and will be surrounded by BW, EH and an executive producer and all have an agenda. I think Joy's days are numbered.

In my mind, the really bad actor here is BW - a lying piece of shit.

[babylonsister]

48. Thanks. I just saw the full version and I have to tell you, that

EH is a full-on bore. Her actions are the equivalent of sticking her fingers in her ears and going her merry way, not responding to anything but her own agenda.
I did enjoy Joy though.

[DURHAM D]

52. EH is a properly brainwashed right wing talking head.

For that reason BW will keep her on the show.

[MistressOverdone]

94. Seems to me that the show

is a pretty valid microcosm of the polarity in our country today. Emotional, not always smooth...each side sure they are right.

[Morgana LaFey]

125. Boy, you sure have a lot of opinions about what goes on behind

the scenes for someone with zero support for those sometimes wild accusations and insinuations.

[DURHAM D]

132. What ? eom

[StrictlyRockers]

28. Hasslefeckless, oh bruddah.

Easy on the eyes, but dumb as a post. Sheesh, where do they grow these mold-brains?

[chemenger]

67. SLC, UTAH???

n/t

[mudesi]

40. FULL VERSION VIDEO HERE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x30628

[WiseButAngrySara]

75. Thanks! I saw almost the entire thing, but SO wanted to hear

Joy Praise Gore and IMPEACH F*Face!

[Matsubara]

157. Thank you for posting that.

I wish I had had that version before the edit deadline - yours is better with Joy's list at the beginning (which barely scratches the surface!)

[laylah]

78. We just watched

the "exchange" (my bf and I) and he said they should drug test EH on a daily basis :rofl: Rosie ROCKS. Yes, she certainly IS opinionated (mainly because she checks her facts...duh! what an idea) and can be abrasive; however, The View was NOTHING, imvho, until she went on board. And it will be nothing when she leaves.

[Madspirit]

82. "drug test EH"

:rofl: That just strikes me as particularly funny. Hilarious actually. I do wonder what kind of drugs.
What kind of drugs do RWers use?


Lee the Pothead

[laylah]

83. Same kinds as

"left-wingers" but they will never admit it :rofl:

[Madspirit]

84. ...and they self-flagellate afterwards...hee...n/t

[Tara_NM]

89. is that supposed to be a dig

I guess that was supposed to be a dig on Dems and progressives :eyes:

[Madspirit]

154. I don't think so

WE were talking about drugs and this person would not put down Dems or Progressives. It does help to follow a thread.
Lee

[Tara_NM]

158. ouch!

I am following the thread ,thanks. However I'm kinda new around here and don't know alot of folks or what they are about, their kind of humor or sarcasm etc. yet so.... I was just asking rather than assume something, sorry.... geez.

[Madspirit]

165. I'm Sorry Too

I really am. Yeah, she was just joking. ...and welcome to DU.
Lee

[Tara_NM]

166. very kind

Hi Lee,

thanks for the kind reply :)

[BlooInBloo]

86. lol! People watching The View.

[otohara]

193. There's More Iraq Debat on The View

than most of so called news channels. So what's your point?

[ScreamingMeemie]

109. ****But what's more important...JOY BEHAR TOTALLY INDICTED BUSHCO****

That's the best part. Amazing. She brought up everything from choking on a pretzel to Haliburton.

[Maddy McCall]

114. Thanks for being the first person to really drive that point home.

Yeah, that was the BEST PART of the whole thing. And Elizabeth was trying to read over Joy's shoulder while Joy was rattling off the list...gotta get those Republican talking points in line. She wouldn't shut up and let Joy read.

Elizabeth's an offensive little twit. And, as a woman, I find it disgusting that she allows her pregnancy to be used as a form of defense, as in, "Don't disagree with what I might say, because I'm gravid, and I might pop an umbilical vein if I have to throw a tantrum in response."

I really don't like her.

[ScreamingMeemie]

115. God, thank you so much.

And it kind of irritates me that MSM will run with the Rosie/betty booboo thing when the important points that Joy made will fade. Like her telling Elizabeth that she had just presented her with facts when Elizabeth said that she prefers facts over emotion.

Here's the thing, Elizabeth has no flipping idea that she's being used by the WH. Used (going to those dinners) because stay at home moms, grandparents, retirees and others watch that show, it has great ratings and it's another way to get their spinning across. I think she should go on maternity leave now. It's obviously too much for her.

[Maddy McCall]

124. Well, the way I see it...

The media enjoy playing up Rosie's "hotheadedness," so they're going to spin this as "That mean ol' Rosie once again goes on the warpath, and this time it's against the sweet lil' pregnant woman."

Forget the Rosie/Elizabeth fight...the most substantial part of the whole thing was Joy advocating IMPEACHMENT AND Gore entering the race...let's hope that the show's audience listened to Joy and ignored all of the other static. I find Joy to be the most likeable person on the show...always have. I hope that people heard what she was saying.

[ScreamingMeemie]

127. I'm totally agreed on that.

Hence my post. And Elizabeth's attempts to not let Joy speak and then spin the facts blew my mind.

[Matsubara]

151. I dodn't know Hasslcrack was preggers, but she is not sweet.

She has absolutely ZERO grasp of the facts and should really refrain from spouting talking points about the war, because she hasn't the faintest idea of what she's talking about.

The fact that she twists it around to make it all about whether or not ROSIE called our guys terrorists, shows that she thinks the lives of the 650,000 (I think the real number is 65,000) innocent Iraqis dead because of our illegal invasion.

On all the issues, Rosie is right, and she's basically right in this argument, too, but that doesn't make this shoutfest a good use of airtime, IMO.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

160. You don't believe the British medical journal The Lancet?

More than 650,000 people have died in Iraq since the U.S. led invasion of the country began in March of 2003. This is according to a new study published in the scientific journal, The Lancet. The study was conducted by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad. Researchers based their findings on interviews with a random sampling of households taken in clusters across Iraq. The study is an update to a prior one compiled by many of the same researchers. That study estimated that around 100,000 Iraqis died in the first 18 months after the invasion.

The number really IS 650,000.

Rosie is RIGHT on the number.

[Matsubara]

161. That's not what I read - 650,000 since Gulf War 1 maybe.

Including those we starved during the sanctions, but last I heard the Lancet was saying that the civilian casualties IN THIS war were 100,000.

The official numbers of dead civilians are around 65,000.

Not disputing what you're saying, but I haven't seen links with those numbers.


(not that is has any bearing on R & EH's argument)

[Manifestor_of_Light]

167. I found a lot of links. Here are some of them.

The one I quoted was from the Democracy Now! website.

Some links:

NPR:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6248509&ft=1&f=2


CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.deaths/

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health:
http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2006/burnham_iraq_2006.html

USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-10-10-iraq-dead_x.htm

The Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/12/AR2006101201670.html

The Center For Media and Democracy:
http://www.prwatch.org/node/5289


Is this enough respectable journalism to get your attention? :grr:

[Matsubara]

171. Thank you for the links.

They did get my attention. I knew that Bush & co. were lowballing the casualty figures, but that's amazing.

Thanks again.

[Nunyabiz]

180. Then you need to keep reading

Because the last figure and this was almost a year ago now was 655,000 innocent civilians dead because of THIS "occupation"

http://www.juancole.com/2006/10/655000-dead-in-iraq-since-bush.html

Now 8 months after this study and since Iraqi deaths if anything have gone UP considerably that number should be well lover 700,000 and that being conservative.

[LostinVA]

189. Wow. Unreal.

[Matsubara]

194. Sorry for not being a statistical storehouse.

I read the links and acknowledged the likely accuracy of the figures.

What else do you want?

I have been as amphatically against this war as anyone, and honestly, 100 innocent civilians and 100,000 innocent civilians killed in an unnecessary and immoral war are the same thing to me. Kill one person and you kill the universe.

The 35,000 figure was the most recent I had read. Excuse the hell out of me.


I also got several items wrong on the political quiz, so I guess that means I'm an idiot not worthy of posting here....

[Gato Moteado]

152. absolutely.....joy is the only one with a functioning brain on the show....

....unfortunately, EH talks over her and rosie continually tells her to stop talking.

[Nunyabiz]

182. I totally agree Joy Behar was great

She fully indicted Bush to be a treasonous war criminal and all anyone is talking about is the shout fest between Rosie (whom is 100% correct in what she is saying) and that brain dead freeper EH which has no clue about what she is frothing at the mouth about.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

119. I finally had the time to View this today

~And I'm crying here. The Angst out there and whats held within~It's a horrid thing for this Nation to go thru. Rosie and Elizabeth surely are both sweet and loving souls. They are both so earnest in their speech, both wanting to help....... In any other Administration, they would have been happier, maybe even the closest of friends... I pray the * WH will be looked at as an Aberration for the next thousand years.

[greenbriar]

139. EH is a hannity sucking RW WHORE who needs to be taken down

an notch or two she is nothing but a parrot for bushbots

[AuntPatsy]

144. It sickens me the way the media will tear her down when it is more than

obvious after watching the tape that Rosie was in the right to continue her questioning of that female, the outright ignoring of such a simple question should make it easy to put the blame where it should and does lie but I have no doubt once again Rosie will be made fun of by the media, sickens me honestly....

She has more heart and fire than most people that I know and I applaud her efforts to question what is going on in today's Amerika and though her and say John Stewart are comedians they are not always looking for a laugh though laughter seems to be the only thing one can do these days in order to remain someone sane when attempting to make sense out of all that is going on in our nations capital.

It really is sickening that far too many Americans continue to ignore the truth because of not only laziness but selfishness since it is more than obvious most people don't care about a certain issue unless it someday touches them personaly, I have no sympathy for those people, none at all.

[Beausoir]

172. Completely reinforces why I NEVER watch that show. What a pant-load of non-speak.

Given all the DU buzz today, I finally caved and watched the YouTube.

What a pathetic display on both sides. Screaming, inarticulate people, all revved up and wrapped up in their own egos.
Why is this gettin so much play here on DU? It's amateur hour.

This....is what TV has devolved to.

[Bluebear]

174. Rosie is inarticulate to you? Funny, she seems to be more articulate than most of our congresspeople

Especially on the Iraq issue.

[Beausoir]

181. Well, that's a given.

[sheerjoy]

176. Amen.

3 more weeks and we can return to less foolishness.

[magnolia]

179. Yeah... right.....

In three more weeks when Rosie is gone....we won't hear ANYONE use the word IMPEACHMENT on network TV! NOBODY will ask questions about 9/11. We'll get back to sanity: we are good they are evil we are good they are evil we are good they are evil.......

[LostinVA]

186. Look upthread

See all the deleted messages? They were nasty things written about Rosie by one poster on this thread.

[Name removed]

187. Deleted sub-thread

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[LostinVA]

185. Oh brother

[otohara]

195. Non Speak Would Be Latest Weight Loss or Women Who Cheat

or some other Dr. Phil type gibber. Everyday on The View there is discussion about Bush, Iraq Occupation or other important matters. There's more debate on this one hour all women's show than on most so-called news channels.

Sometimes when discussing on-going occupation and Bush, voices get loud and louder. Especially when you're dealing with a Hannity type female and one completely ill informed guest host who pooh, poohs the importance of what's going on in our country.

[Beausoir]

201. All I saw was two people screaming over each other, nearly driven to tears and personally insulting

each other.

The topic matters not. Could have been a Springer show. I just don't have time for it. And I certainly won't get into a flame war over a silly television show.

[Colobo]

203. Bingo!

[Colobo]

196. Two losers fighting on TV... great...

[Bluebear]

198. Ah, so Rosie is a "loser"? Why is that? nt

[Colobo]

199. Both Rosie and Elizabeth are losers

That can't hold a rational conversation on national TV. They are two hacks that look for controversy by reinforcing the worst stereotypes people have about people in both sides of the aisle.

[Bluebear]

200. I so disagree. Rosie is not LOOKING for controversy.

She is about the only one out there that will speak to an issue.

[Colobo]

202. We obviously disagree

Both Elizabeth and Rosie are detrimental to their causes, because they trivialize the issues they discuss by making them some sort of spectacle. It's the same thing Jon Stewart criticized Begala and Tucker for doing on Crossfire.

[LostinVA]

204. Oh boy

[Bluebear]

205. You know, those mouthy "lezzies". nt

[Colobo]

206. That's a cheap shot, very dishonest from you

You are bringing something to this argument that has NOTHING to do with my opinion or what I have said. You are bringing Rosie's sexual orientation for no reason at all, because it doesn't have anything to do with my take on her and Elizabeth.

Is Elizabeth a mouthy "lezzie" too? Or maybe she is just a mouthy Republican hack?

[Bluebear]

207. I was not addressing you, rather making an upthread reference to the poster. nt

[LostinVA]

211. What the heck are you talking about?

Bluebear is referring to a homophobic troll up thread.

[Colobo]

212. So why post that as an answer to my response?

[LostinVA]

215. Ask Bluebear n/t

[LostinVA]

208. I love being a mouthy lez

I may get a cafepress shirt saying that, actually.

[Colobo]

209. So what? I didn't bring that to the argument!

Did I? Show me where I did!

[LostinVA]

216. I would tell you, but I don't want to be a mouthy lez

I'm turning over a new leaf, boyo!

[Colobo]

231. LOL!

[LostinVA]

234. hehehehe

[Bluebear]

210. I did love what Rosie said in the clip

"I'm just not doing it anymore, because it will be 'here comes Rosie, the big, fat, mouth lesbian attacking poor little Christian Elizabeth." :rofl:

[LostinVA]

214. I know -- and she's right!

Just look at some of the reserpines on this thread.

She cracks me up. Even when she's pissed, she can be a card.

[RevCheesehead]

217. I'm having an identity crisis here.

I want a T-shirt, but it would have to read "The Rev; the big, fat, mouthy, poor Christian." Talk about confusing. :P

[Bluebear]

218. LOLOL

Oh Rev, you truly are one of a kind :)

[LostinVA]

219. Hmmm... you could spell it "Xian," just to be a renegade

[RevCheesehead]

222. It would save not only space, but also $.

BTW: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=203897

[LostinVA]

224. Hmmmmm.....

That took a long time, but was also tres fun. The obvious ones make me giggle.

But then, I'm a mouthy lez.

[RevCheesehead]

226. I'm a mouthy hetero, and I Bwahahaha!

It's been a pleasure working with ya. ;)

[LostinVA]

228. You too, Cheesekins

[Name removed]

213. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Madspirit]

221. Now Things Have Been Set Right

A tombstone is now in place for the "lezzie" caller.
Lee

[Bluebear]

223. Adios, troll.

:)

[scorpiogirl]

225. Freakin' finally!

[LostinVA]

229. I already miss being called

a mouthy lezzie.

:sigh:

[Madspirit]

230. Just For You

You MOUTHY LEZZIE! :hug:

That's what's bad. I sometimes use that affectionately. Didn't she even know she was supposed to call us "big honkin' lesbos"...not "mouthy lezzies"... The quality of trolls has really gone downhill.

Lee

[LostinVA]

233. I know, I agree

I think it's college students coming home, although Rev, Cheesehead disagrees with me.

[Madspirit]

236. Rev Cheesehead

"I wear the cheese; it does not wear me."

The Cheeseman "Restless" Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Lee *always ready with the Buffy quotes*

[otohara]

220. At Least The Fight Was About Something Worthwhile

and any public TV debate where "dissent" is allowed is great. Consider if this happened in 02/03/04/05, this debate wouldn't exist.

Tell me, why Rosie is a loser?

[Colobo]

232. Read posts 199 and 202

[Madspirit]

237. Why Read Them

You just demonize Rosie...a gutsy woman and put her in the same boat with that Pig Woman.

I like large, loud, gutsy women.

Lee *proud to be a mouthy lezzie*

[Tara_NM]

235. the guest Silverstone then snubbed EH- LMFAO

I didn't notice this yesterday but I saw a youtube clip this morning that pointed out that vegan Alicia Silverstone refused to shake EH's hand when Alicia came out on the stage for her segment.

Here is the clip link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoFH-BAHqN4

[cynatnite]

242. Honestly, I got tired of their bickering...

I think Rosie does it mostly for attention even though she's right on target with the little freeping blonde. The last time I watched them go at it, I got a headache and turned off the TV. Haven't watched them since.