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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:44 PM
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I Know That I Will Get A Lot Of Flack From This: Charlie Crist
I am not a "Lurker" I found you guys after the 2000 debacle in the Palm Beach County Gore/Bush Selection. I protested in our local streets. I felt so betrayed and started logging on to DU every morning. I Thank you in advance for your information and information that I read daily. I feel I DO belong to this group even though I haven't hit the 1000 mark. I get my news from you guys every day.
However:
There are some of us, as you call them, Flor-idiots who supported Crist in this election. I can say that this man gave me the opportunity to get a $5000.00 credit for "My Safe Florida". I can say that I was a teacher and he stuck up for us. I can say that he was better than all those previous Governors who we felt was a refreshing alternative to Jeb Bush. Wouldn't it be nice not to promote sticking to party lines for the benefit of my fair state. Ask the people, not the politics. We liked him as our governor. Now we are doomed. Please remember, as I do, that local politics are important to our local consequences.

Thank You DU
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:45 PM
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1. I don't call you guys Flor-idiots. I certainly understand your support of him. nt
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:46 PM
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2. I'm a Californian, but I supported Crist
Sent him money even - a First for me


I have never donated to anyone who was an ex-Republican before
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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:09 PM
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15. So Did A Lot Of Us Donate. All For Naught
But Thank You From Floridians who chose to support someone, who in this economy, actually got something personally($)back!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:07 PM
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19. I want the sane people running the states in the US
Is that so wrong?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:47 PM
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3. As an outsider I felt it wasn't my place to comment. It was a touch situation for you
Floridians to be in though. Thanks for posting your side.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:48 PM
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4. He lost the primary, then with no care for that vote.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 06:51 PM by RandomThoughts
Ran in the election as an independent to make sure a pro corporate Senator from the right won.

He is a stooge same as Lieberman.

I have no respect for him.



Nirvana and the Meat Puppets - Lake Of Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O2OHozqgqE
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:49 PM
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5. After all party choices are destiny and should control all of life!
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:03 PM
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11. I have to agree.
Not worthy of much respect.
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:12 PM
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12. Do you live in Florida?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:12 PM
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17. Interesting question.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 08:14 PM by RandomThoughts
Can you explain why you would ask. I assume you are saying that the 'Senators' from Florida would not be my concern if I do not live there.

However, I am not saying who should be Senator, only commenting on the process chosen by some to try and control who gets into office, and for why.

And expressing an opinion on two people that I don't like.

Do you live where I do?

And it is not third party candidates that I comment on, it the use of third party run after loosing a primary, or to not try and win but to gerrymander a vote.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:50 PM
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6. i don't live in florida, but
when crist decided to run as an independent and promised to caucus with the democrats, i MIGHT have voted for him.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:11 PM
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16. He NEVER promised to caucus with the Dems!
Get over that shit already, he never ever said it and purposefully deflected those questions time and time again.

And yes, I live here in FL.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:08 AM
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20. i only know what i read.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:16 AM
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21. Right, if HuffPo says it then it must be true.
:eyes:

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:56 PM
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7. Welcome.
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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:40 PM
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13. Thank You
I Know I won't get a K & R as you guys promote, but I wanted you to know there are many of us "out there" who watch, listen, and follow your lead. In the case of Meek being a Dem and the only way to remain a true DU, I disagreed with your forum. We did have a good governor, which we liked in our own sense of Florida. The result of your guidance was truly horrible!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:56 PM
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8. There seemed to be quite a split on the whole Crist issue on DU
I, for one, can understand both sides of the Meek v Crist support debate. I judge neither side for the choices they made.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:56 PM
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9. I'm glad he's gone.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 07:20 PM by The Backlash Cometh
I bet he was a nice guy too. But, he had a habit of giving crooked people government jobs for all the wrong reasons. I'm not into good ole boy bullshit. My American dream was destroyed because of their machinations and I'll never get that time back. There are no do-overs for us mortals.

I'll tell you one thing Crist didn't do. He didn't help clean up the dirt in local politics along the I-4 Corridor. That was his meal ticket and he kept them safe. It's like a deal made with the devil. The Counties remain red as long as no one looks too deeply into their business. And in return, they send campaign donations to keep it that way.

I don't think there's anyone in this State who has the integrity to expose them. And whether you want to believe it or not, they affect our lives from cradle to grave.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:58 PM
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10. I agree with you about Crist.
As much as I liked Meek, I didn't vote for him because he was so far down in the polls and I so didn't want Rubio to be a FL Senator. I voted for Crist because I felt it was our only chance. Even though Crist was a Repug Governor, I wasn't unhappy with him as I was with Jeb. Having said that, I truly believe that Meek will go far in the Democratic Party. He is smart, articulate, and honest. He has much to offer.

Today I'm hearing that perhaps the 2012 Presidential election repuke nominees could be Jeb and Marco. What a disgusting thought!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:41 PM
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14. Thanks for the reality check, remember. n/t
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:19 PM
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18. Crist was a moderate republican who made some moderate decisions
which benefited our state. While he did veto that horrific SB6 bill as well as the bill forcing women about to get abortions to get ultrasounds (at their expense), nonetheless he is a republican and didn't leave the party until he saw the writing on the wall with Rubio.

So you like moderates compared to Jeb, that's nice. Now our state sucks beyond compare and we've been sent back to the stone age and all those nasty bills are up for ramming through again:

Veto Override Alert http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20101026/OPINION/101025021/Our-views-Veto-override-alert-Oct-26-

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But we’re more concerned Haridopolos and fellow GOP state lawmakers — if they come away from the Nov. 2 elections with a veto-proof majority — may try to bring back several hugely flawed bills Crist rightly shot down this year.

Those include:

Senate Bill 6, the unfair performance pay bill that stripped future teachers of job security and would have forced even more grueling rounds of standardized tests on students. The measure was pushed through without adequate input from educators and, as crafted, would harm education.
A bill that forced women seeking a first-trimester abortion to have a medically unnecessary ultrasound at their expense and doctors to review it with them. The mean-spirited bill would have penalized poor women the hardest and represents the worst kind of government intrusion on wrenching medical decisions that should remain private.
A campaign financing bill that would have let more special-
interest cash pour into Florida campaigns. Championed by Haridopolos, the bill would have recreated leadership funds banned 20 years ago that give the Senate president or House speaker power to raise unlimited soft-
money donations to aid campaigns. It also raised to $50,000 the amount party leaders could give to candidates, a tenfold increase over current limits, and gave them free rein to raise cash from lobbyists during the legislative session, now prohibited.
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