So this has made me physically ill...

[PCIntern]

all the hope squandered...trying to play games with these people. The Republicans are like the Terminator: they just keep on coming until we lose. They don't have a conscience, they don't have ethics or morals, they just stay on the offensive all the time and for as long as it takes, dating back as far as anyone alive can remember. The O'Donnell's, the Angles, the McMahons, the Paladinos, are all distractions whilst the real folk - the clever, cunning folk, just go out and win.

Over the last few weeks, I spoke with many of my patients, particularly my minority community which is large, and asked them if they were going to vote. Generally I received a lackluster response - many said "No".

So there you are...I awakened at 3 AM from a deep sleep with a start, saw that Toomey had beaten Sestak here, that Corbett beat the crap out of that ridiculous candidate Onorato who did not run anything like a campaign (these people from Allegheny County can't come East successfully in PA and I just can't figure out who's running the show - this happens every damned time), and Gerlach won as my Rep, and this guy I wouldn't recognize if I stepped on his foot.

I told my kid last night that this was a real lesson in politics and in life, and that one should not make the same mistakes which the Dems have made for generations, but to learn to have courage of conviction and come out swinging against opponents, and not allow their punches to go unchallenged. A valuable lesson, but a very sad one.

[Skittles]

1. two years pissed away

[PCIntern]

2. right you are...

sad, just sad. Imagine if the Republicans had had the kind of victory which Obama had had...there'd be 5000 miles of fences in the north and south, end of SS and Medicare as we know it, etc.

[Skittles]

3. just thinking about

how bad ya have to be to let clowns like them get even MORE power - gawd, we should have, and COULD have, done SO much fucking better - heck, if they had focused on JOBS instead of that piece of SHIT "healthcare reform" - aw, it is DISGUSTING

[PCIntern]

4. all they had to do

was make the HC reform part of a huge jobs bill...a WPA type bill.

[JCMach1]

5. I am sick too Skittles... two wasted years trying to triangulate

when we should have been leading with bold actions.

[Zax2me]

21. No one would listen...

The people screamed jobs while we rode the health care train month. After month. After month.

The votes just kept adding up against us.

[Raine]

6. Two years plus all the years before

of hard work to get a majority. A majority that was used for nothing, it was just pissed away. :mad:

[NYC Liberal]

8. You think the majority was "used for nothing"?

I'd highly disagree with that.

[apocalypsehow]

7. Yeah, cuz it suuuure was a shame we didn't McCain on inauguration day 2009, wuuzn't it?

:eyes:

[Bluebear]

9. Yes, obviously her post reveals she wanted President McCain!!! Or Palin~!!!1

:cry:

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[Crunchy Frog]

20. Pissed away the best chance in a generation

to actually make practical improvements in this country and in people's lives.

Now we can watch our national life expectancy slip behind Albania's.

[Hekate]

10. What did you think of Rachel Maddow's election eve assessment? Links in case you missed it.

It was very interesting, I thought. Long though -- at 15 minutes it takes 2 YouTube clips. I'm interested in knowing what you (and others in this thread) think of what she said.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnoPpWdlG3A 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBHK7zsz7xU 



[Bluebear]

12. How many threads will get this post?

[Hissyspit]

13. I'm the one who posted those here in the Political Videos forum.

I thought Rachel was trying to put the best face on it.

[Hekate]

15. and I liked it

I also like Rachel. She's remarkably bright and well-informed.

So thank you Hissyspit for your original posting, and I will quit now.

g'nite

[LooseWilly]

14. I thought that segment was remarkably kind to the Democrats

It was full of one-sided (supportive) interpretations of the implications of the legislative accomplishments of the 111th Congress. Sure, stripped of the overreaching context of the extant majorities in the legislature at the time, and the promises of the campaign, and the electoral momentum that led to the majorities alluded to previously... the accomplishments of the Congress have been monumental... but only when compared with "shared-power" Congresses... which had to contend with one or the other house, or the White House, hindering any real progress.

With control of the Congress and the White House, and a super-majority for a time in the Congress... and with that majority resulting from two consecutive elections in which the (D)s swept more and more seats... in that context these legislative accomplishments become considerably less impressive.

I can only imagine that Rachel, at the last minute, couldn't bear the pressure and fear that her reporting of the position of the left, with regards to this outlined perception of the achievements of the Democrats... and she decided to do a story focussing solely on accomplishments as viewed in a sterile historical context, rather than a contemporary control of both involved branches of government context.

The facts I don't dispute... and if it weren't for the combination of the context of the legislative victories and the catalog of legislative inaction... then Rachel's story might've appeared to be more relevant and consonant with the reality I see/understand. But, as it isn't, it isn't... though the stripping of the context of the story did present an interesting "perspective" of the very recent history...

[madmax]

16. I saw your last post last night

I honestly felt the pain in your written word. I went to sleep shortly thereafter feeling pretty much the same.

You're a good Dad. I have talks like that with my Grandson, he's 15, but they always sound better coming from his Dad and his G'pa.

[PCIntern]

18. Thanks...much appreciated...

at work now and as my Dad said to me in 1980 after Reagan won, "Just get up and go to work."

[Catherina]

17. Rec'd n/t

[clyrc]

19. I hit the tranquillizers

but I still feel pretty crappy, just not dangerously crappy.