The Silence of Progressive Sources on WikiLeaks Iraq Release is Shocking!!

[Bullet1987]

FireDogLake, The Young Turks, Huffington Post...am I missing something? Where is the Progressive news outlet coverage of this? Once again, it seems only Democracy Now will touch certain topics. Have Progressives become too cozy with the mainstream media? I know Olbermann talked about it a couple times if I recall...but we should be hammering this story day in and day out. This is not a one-day story as the media wants it to be. But of course let's be real, the media has every intention to carry the water of the military-industrial complex that is being strongly and rightfully challenged overseas. Americans are being kept out of the loop and shut off. You have to go to certain sources of information to get information on this it seems because the progressive media has lost its edge and does nothing more than follow the soap opera distraction stories of the MSM.

[midnight]

1. I was not aware of this......

[dkf]

2. We already know Bush lied...

We just want out.

[Radical Activist]

3. Kind of like when Obama does something progressive.

The progressive media largely ignores it. The problem is that the netroots and most progressive media are still reacting to the corporate press instead of actively pushing it.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

4. Maybe it's the election?

[elleng]

5. EXACTLY! ElectionS!

[Bullet1987]

6. That's the problem...the midterms should not be the #1 story

It's not going to change anything in America whether you get an enabling Democrat or a corporatist Rethug. It's trivial compared to the importance of the Iraq War. But progressive media parrots corporate media's stories. What are they trying to compete with them or get a job?

[Hissyspit]

13. It is in part.

But that's not an excuse.

Olbermann touched on it a little. Young Turks, too. Don't think Rachel did anything on it.

[Bullet1987]

14. Yea...I caught Olbermann on Youtube

I was looking for TYT, but can't seem to find it. Maybe I just overlooked it idk. But a one-shot story is laughable anyway.

[depakid]

7. There's been coverage on those sites

Perhaps you've missed it.

Bottom line though is that the "no accountability for anyone" administration isn't going to do a damn thing, so really, this stuff is elementary.

Be prepared next go around for a LOT more of it.

[Bullet1987]

9. So the American people should be kept in the dark because the government won't be pressed about it

Because that's what the real issue is. The media is not going to press them about it, so nothing will be done.

[depakid]

19. Didn't say that at all

Just said progressive sites (and papers like the Guardian, Independent and Sydney Morning Herald have been covering the contents of the material.

There's a lot of it to go over, and my guess is that there will be more coverage from progressive sources over the next several weeks, particularly after the election post mortems are done.

[Bullet1987]

20. I can only hope

[depakid]

23. Well, imagine this

If the Obama administration and Democratic "leadership" especially in the Senate had actually gone after or prosecuted the torturers, war criminals, corrupt public officials, banksters, fraudsters and corporate criminals like those who willfully violate health and safety laws- these would all be in the headlines in the run up to the elections and Republicans would have run like moths to the flame to protect them from accountability.

Instead, the administration cozied up and gave them all get out of jail free (often with tens of millions of ill gotten gains personal wealth intact).

None too bright a set of political moves. Indeed- it's the mark of ideologues- just of a different sort.

[EconomicsIsGod]

8. The less exposure, the better.

As far as I'm concerned, much of the WikiLeaks Iraq issue is just plain wrong. Every bit as much so as the wars. We have two pointless wars that have cost many lives. These leaks have the potential to cause many more.

The solution to a government doing things they shouldn't isn't to endanger the lives of the soldiers and contractors involved. I personally know a couple that were involved in classified events and while I don't think they should have happened, releasing the info directly endangers their lives and compromises the PERSEC.

[Bullet1987]

10. The leaks expose the war for what it was...riddled with torture and bullshit

It's no longer a liberal theory.

[Hissyspit]

11. Bullshit.

NO names in the Iraq leaks. What IS in them is truth about CORRUPTION, LIES, INCOMPETENCE, INHUMANITY, HYPOCRISY and BAD POLICY. Truth that makes a difference to those affected by that corruption, lies, and incompetence, which in the long run will PROTECT our soldiers from abuse.

AND the fact that there was so little exposure is evidence of the corruption of American society, its media and government. NOTHING to be happy about.

AND, as has been posted here many times, there is NO evidence of negative consequences based on these links. None. If you have some, bring it.

Your multi-debunked Pentagon talking-points are useless.

[EconomicsIsGod]

15. Go ahead and talk to anyone

who was involved in the classified things it talks about and ask them how they feel about it. I guarantee they will tell you that they will tell you the feel it has threatened their security.

It wasn't needed to expose the war as bad. Anyone with half a brain knew that already and anyone who didn't won't have their minds changed by this report.

[Bullet1987]

16. The nature of what has gone on is still largely unknown

Unless you've read books like Jeremy Scahill's Blackwater and a couple notable others. People need to acknowledge the sick nature of our government's torture program that looks like something out of a Latin American dictatorial regime from the 70s. Why don't TYT bring on Naomi Klein? She's written extensively about the similar use of torture in other countries enabled by our government. Something we still don't acknowledge to this day, even though intellectual people know the truth. You can't put your head in the sand and hope your problems will go away because you chose not to see them.

[EconomicsIsGod]

21. I have read that book

it was tough to read something that was so obviously biased but I read it in the interest of being informed. However that doesn't apply in the least to how these leaks put the lives of those involved in danger.

[Hissyspit]

17. It wasn't about exposing the war as bad. It was about revealing new and MORE of the truth.

So they feel bad about it? Then our government needs to quit doing this shit.

[EconomicsIsGod]

22. What are you even talking about?

We aren't discussing the people involved feeling bad. I'm taking about their lives being put in danger just so someone can feel important by releasing some information that will have little to no effect on anyone other than those they are endangering.

[Hissyspit]

24. "Just so someone can feel important..."

See? As I said, B.S .If that's all you see, you have NOT been reading the documents or paying much attention. This info will have affect for the rest of history. And I wasn't talking about their "feeling bad." I was talking about their attitude toward what they do and who they do it for.

[EconomicsIsGod]

25. What good exactly will it do? n/t

[Hissyspit]

27. I don't know...

Knowledge?

Truth?

Justice?

[mike_c]

28. sunlight is the ONLY real disinfectant any more....

eom

[Bullet1987]

12. Wow...unreccers having their way with this thread

Does the truth hurt?

[Luminous Animal]

18. FDL?

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/10/25/wikileaks-documents-complicate-iraqi-prime-minister-selection/
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/10/26/us-denies-wikileaks-abuses-iraqis-yawn-at-unsurprising-revelations/
http://firedoglake.com/2010/10/25/the-wikileaks-effect-uk-guardian-reveals-british-interrogation-manuals-authorize-torture/

[Ramulux]

26. Have you tried actually going to any of those sites?

I know the Young Turks have been talking about it and I know I have seen people at FireDogLake saying stuff, as well as Glenn Greenwald. I also have seen a bunch about it on the Huffington Post. So yeah, everyone you just called out has been covering this since the beginning, maybe you just aren't paying attention.