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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:06 AM
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I love my job, but I hate the people here
For example, I caught a small part of a conversation yesterday where someone mentioned "those commie Dixie Chicks." :banghead: Plus, I have the joy of being located next to a fundie who plays fundie radio all the time, even though we're not supposed to have radios going. Believe it or not, last week someone was talking next to my cubicle (everyone does!) about how they had run a revival the weekend before and saved 6 people.

Oy.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:07 AM
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1. Bummer. The workplace stress would run me right outta there!
:hug:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:08 AM
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2. What kind of place to you work? (I don't expect you to name the place
of course, but just what kind of an environment is it?)
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:23 AM
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15. Army contractors
The most self-absorbed people on Earth.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:26 AM
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17. Oh my.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:34 AM
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23. I was in a nice quiet place until February
then I got moved to right next to the copy room. Right where everyone likes to come and have discussions about everything. Loudly. Somehow, even though I am trying to get work done, it never occurs to anyone that they could have a discussion anywhere but inside my cubicle.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:37 AM
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26. Haven't you always been surrounded by bush**niks and fundies tho?
Or was the 'department' pretty much a combo of anti-bush** dems and republican ass-kissers?

Maybe I read too much into things and picture all government jobs and employees like the freedom hating anti-Consitutionalist in the White House.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:39 AM
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27. Actually, yes.
But in the desk I was in before they didn't walk into my cubicle to have conversations with other people, or play their radios either.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:43 AM
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30. Oh. Well, as long as you don't rely on the people in your workplace
for any type of social interaction, I guess it would be okay.

Hell, I work with a guy who listens to Bill O'Falaffel and believes every word he says. We had one 'discussion' about it. And another tried the old 'it's more violent in Washington D.C. than it is in Iraq' shit line on me once. He never did that again. Not after he couldn't justify why we were in Iraq killing innocent civilians.

I wouldn't last a day where you are.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:09 AM
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3. My husband is an Air Force officer--the ultimate bastion of the
thirty-percenters. We feel your pain.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:11 AM
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4. Of course, if you complain about the radio...
...it'll be because you're a godless liberal who hates religion, not because this guy is breaking the rules.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:25 AM
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16. You got it!
I don't dare say a word, because I would just be bitching - after all, how could Christian radio be offensive, unless I am Unsaved?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:29 AM
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21. Bring a radio and start playing hard-core, heavy metal rock.
Be sure and bring out some Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden's "666." If the fundie nut complains, you can tell the boss and/or HR that fundie nut ALSO has a radio and is listening to it.

You both get told not to do such a no-no. Problem solved.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:36 AM
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24. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed
Official policy statements just came out the other day, and radios are prohibited. Also, I am not on the same level as the people around me, because I work for a subcontractor and not the official contractor.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:52 AM
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31. So? Neither's he.
Edited on Tue May-22-07 11:53 AM by kiki
Stick on some early Faith No More or something, and if anyone complains, you put on your best "who, me?" face and say, "Oh, I'm terribly sorry - I assumed that, as Fundie McShit-For-Brains (or whatever his name is) always has his radio on, the rules must have been relaxed."

Your co-worker has obviously mastered the number one Fundie/RWer principle - that rules apply only to other people. Don't let him get away with it.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:05 PM
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32. Actually, the rules really do only apply to other people sometimes
See, she works for the main contractor and is the secretary to one of the bigwigs. I however, work for a subcontractor. I'm lower on the totem pole around the office where I'm at. We just got a policy directive specifically denying ANY radio use - including headphones - and apparently the main contractor people didn't.

I've tried complaining about the whole situation, but there's been no success yet. I have to try a different approach. I'd like to get away from this spot anyway, since it seems to attract loud jerks who literally stand at the entrance to my cubicle and yell at people on the other side of the room to get their attention. I don't have any recourse either, because it's site managers that do things like that. I swear to god it's like these people were raised by sledgehammers.
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:37 AM
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25. instead play
the village people, george michael, pet shop boys, erasure, communards, melissa ethridge etc

their heads will explode:evilgrin:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:41 AM
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28. LOL
Edited on Tue May-22-07 11:41 AM by EstimatedProphet
I'd love to see what this one would do if I played "Hit Me With Your Rythym Stick!"
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:12 AM
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5. Fundie Radio?
Good God, that would drive me over the edge.

Your best option may be to import your own "radio" consisting of Marilyn Manson and any form of Gangsta Rap you can find. Even if you can't stand the shit you may be able to get all of it banned.

Also, if they start trying to "convert" you do what I do when my old neighbor tried it and extol the virtues of an "open marriage"(his wife was pretty hot), I never saw that nutcase again.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:21 AM
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13. That's my suggestion as well. Get your own radio and play
AAR, or some other left leaning station. If there are none of them within range, you may have to resort to what the poster above me suggested. Play some deliberately obnoxious music...better yet, how about a tape player that plays nothing but the Dixie Chicks? I'm sure it won't last long before EVERYONE is told "NO RADIOS, NO RECORDED MUSIC ALLOWED". At least you won't have to listen to LInpballs etc. anymore!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:27 AM
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18. Ah, if only...
the word is already out that there should be no radios. I am a lowly subcontractor, so I don't have the same rights as my betters in the office.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:33 AM
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22. Oh, sorry. That was my suggestion, too.
I would first E-MAIL fundie nut and ask that they lower the volume - it's disrupting your work (I say email so you'll have a record of the request).

If you can still hear it - even just bits and pieces - then go to a supervisor you trust and say, "I really don't want to start trouble, but I simply can't concetrate on my work because of so-and-so's radio. I don't want so-and-so to get in trouble, though." The supervisor might just step in and speak to the offender without causing an uproar.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:42 AM
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29. OK, so could you request an OK for a radio from the employer?
If the answer is no, then explain that the radio programs the others are playing are disturbing, and distract you from doing your best job for them. That's why you requested to play your own, so it would perhapse prevent you from hearing the others.

I would suspect the employer would simply eliminate all radios to stop all the distractions.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:19 PM
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34. Once, Rush was being played in the secretary's office...
Which is adjacent to my office.

There are 2 folks working there whom I have worked with for a long time. I could only stand about 5 minutes of Rush's inane ramblings before I politely shared with my co-workers --- "I'm sorry, but I find Rush Limbaugh deeply offensive, would you mind changing the channel?"

Well, they did --- they went straight to Christmas music but at least I did not have to listen to neo-con blowhards spewing their bullshit.

And thankfully, my co-workers have honored my request since. It sometimes saddens me that I don't work with more liberal and insightful folks (I'd enjoy to have actual friends I work with), but they honor my beliefs and have never pitched me any grief for being an unabashed liberal and environmentalist --- here in the heart of a red county but in a beautiful part of the world.

Rural Washington State - I can see all the stars from here! :)

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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:14 AM
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6. Too bad you can't wear ear plugs......
I would be going crazy if I had to listen to that. I'm not sure I could keep my mouth shut if I heard those comments.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:17 AM
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10. no, but a complaint might get the fundy neighbor
to use a damn earpiece for that shit.

Don't complain about what's on his radio. Just complain that it's distracting and affecting your productivity.

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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:06 PM
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33. Nope, no earplugs, earphones, etc.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:14 AM
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7. "those commie Dixie Chicks."
"Commies?" Are we still worried about "commies?" That's oh-so pre-post-Berlin Wall!

I can't believe Americans are still worried about communism!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:14 AM
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8. human fundies and rethug cons are tough to stomach.........
love your job and try to tune them out. Stay sane.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:16 AM
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9. Does your town get AirAmerica radio?....
If so play that at the same loudness level as the fundie station.

I don't know your office politics but equality in the workplace is a good standard.

Can you ask someone in authority to put you in a different cubicle away from the fundie noise pollution that disrupts your concentration and adversely affects your job performance?? :evilgrin:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:28 AM
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20. Unfortunately not. I just was moved here
I have complained a few times already, with no success.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:18 AM
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11. If someone publicly stated that she/he had
saved six people, that would be my perfect entry to start a discussion.

I would ask her - saved from what - a decent education, college, health care, clean air, clean food, a fair salary for a job, mortgage, poverty, racism, sexism, gay-bashing, robber-barons, MSMs propaganda, criminal politicians, their civil rights, etc.

I would then wait for her to say that she/he saved them for Jesus - for some ridiculous afterlife bliss and I would jump down all their throats demanding answers about who going to facilitate all those saved people's personal goals while they're living on this fucking planet and why the fuck should they focus on dreams and illusions rather than the here and now.


"Now is not the time to sleep or turn the other cheek..." Junior X
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:19 AM
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12. What a horrible environment.
:(

I'm very sorry that anyone sane and rational has to work there. I'm glad you have DU as an outlet.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:23 AM
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14. Commie is SO 1980's
And really, what sort of insult is that these days when Wal-Mart's no. 1 partner is communist China? Do they realize they sound this stupid?
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:27 AM
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19. Yes it is.....
the latest insult these days is 'you support the terrorists'
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:24 PM
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35. I use to work in a place like that but I still liked the people
and the work. I would just try to separate politics from work altogether. Try to find like minded people to go out to lunch with. Where I work now there are still lots of freeper types but I've learned to eat out with friends outside of work. Try to stay away from political or religious discussions at work and bring head phones and an IPOD, it does wonders.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 10:53 AM
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36. Well, I avoid political discussions at work
and all of that. It's not that I get involved in them, it's that people involve me in them by not respecting my space at all. They literally will walk into my cubicle and have a discussion with someone else. Rude asses. It goes on like that all day. Also, there's nothing around the facility for 15 miles, so lunch away with other people is out of the question. And as I said in other posts, I can't bring a set of headphones.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:45 PM
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37. You can try putting up a sign outside your cube
Edited on Wed May-23-07 04:45 PM by Geek_Girl
Saying something like "Please do not disturb I am busy with work." I've seen some of my co-workers put up similar signs. Or you could just ask your co-workers to leave your cubicle because your swamped with work. Ask your supervisor to move you because the noise level is too high and it's distracting you from your work.

And if all else fails don't take a shower for awhile. That'll keep them away.

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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:50 PM
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38. Mine was like that for a while
Then, my shrewish supervisor left on maternity leave and will come back to a new group, and, her supervisor was demoted due to micromanagement / ineffectiveness. (Serious possible OCD case.) Anyway, my new supervisor is sane and normal, and just wants to get the job done. Total 180 in environment. I am having a decent time and am going home with dignity somewhat intact for the first time in nearly a year. Woot! I hope things improve for you too!!!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:47 PM
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39. Eventually they will
I'm going to have to force the issue, but in a different way than what I have been trying.

In the meantime, I'm going on some well-deserved leave until next Wednesday!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:49 PM
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40. Sing along with the music on the fundie radio station. Loudly.
Just say, I LOVE that ol' time religious music, please play it louder so I can sing along even better. Praise the Lord! Maybe you could speak in tongues now and then, too.

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