Why The War On Terror Will Fail

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

Why The War On Terror Will Fail
posted with permission from http://sane-ramblings.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-war-on-terror-will-fail.html

The War on Terror will fail because it is based on terror, intimidation and ultimately murder. It is based on depriving others of their freedoms and destroying their sense of self-respect and demolishing their economies.

The War on Terror is an attempt to possess the unpossessable. We are all in this life for such a brief time and when it ends, we leave with no possessions, no empire.

The War on Terror is an attempt to control the uncontrollable. In the 21st Century, whether in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan or in any other nation, the people refuse to be colonized. Despite having state of the art weapons and vast sums of money and power, the U.S. was defeated and driven out of Vietnam.

The War on Terror destroyed Iraq and keeps Baghdad, Mosul and other major cities in lock down under a puppet government, as insurgents continue to strike. Afghanistan is a disaster. Meanwhile, the U.S., by far the world's biggest debtor nation is rapidly depleting its financial resources in these lost causes, driven largely by ego and by the military industrial complex.

But there is an answer and it is as old as biblical times. "Do unto others as you would have done unto you." It is long past time for America to admit its horrific mistakes, call cease fires, negotiate peace treaties and leave. And then use what is left of its financial resources to rebuild its schools, its medical care, its infrastructure and its social security and invest in tomorrow's technologies that will benefit all mankind.

[HopeHoops]

1. It FAILED the moment the shrub used the term.

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

2. OK, and what do you think of the author's solution? nt

[DFab420]

6. It's a nice idea and all..

But there is an answer and it is as old as biblical times. "Do unto others as you would have done unto you." It is long past time for America to admit its horrific mistakes, call cease fires, negotiate peace treaties and leave. And then use what is left of its financial resources to rebuild its schools, its medical care, its infrastructure and its social security and invest in tomorrow's technologies that will benefit all mankind.

However, it's a bit to altruistic to believe that if WE leave everything that is wrong with the region will right itself. While I totally agree that our treasure and blood are better spent focusing on rebuilding our own infrastructure. We also owe a bit of the freedoms we promised to the Afghan people. WE could call a cease fire, and are actually in the midst of high level peace talks, although through a NATO proxy, with Al-Qaeda.

But does that mean that they will stop cutting the noses off the faces of women? Or training young men to attack us with promises of paradise and money for their family?

I'm not sure. Which is why I ask.

I just think this situation is a bit more complicated then saying we are sorry and then "doing unto others"

[HopeHoops]

7. Idealistic at best.

There is no "win" in that region and you can't compare it to Viet Nam in the historical context and outcome. It CAN be compared with respect to being a quagmire, but not in the outcome area. Keep in mind that Reagan called the Taliban "freedom fighters" when he hosted them at the White House.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. The "War On Terror" is pure P.R. As are the wars fought in it.

We lost. Get out. Get over it.

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[DFab420]

8. That's a bit out of line...

False god?

Meat Puppet Goat Herders?

Those are very inflammatory remarks.

There is nothing "false" about their beliefs, and just because some bastardized version is being peddled by the cultist (taliban, al-qaeda) does nothing to de-legitimize Islam as a religion.

[Pavulon]

9. Its all voodoo, not just theirs..

and yes killing people who are dying because "god" wills it is pretty stupid. There is an endless supply of them.

Has nothing to do with islam and can be applied to the Japanese of ww2, zealots of any kind are not defeated by killing the hordes. See the burning of tokyo.

Again its all false, you live you die, you rot, no virgins, no heaven, no nothing. Voodoo.

[DFab420]

10. That's how you see it

and I respect that.

But there are literally BILLIONS of people out there who would disagree with you, including practitioners of Voodoo, (which is a religious form in its own right).

Calling religion "voodoo" or "hocus pocus" or anything other then a religion that someone holds as a tenet to their existence is regressive and shouldn't hold a place in discussion on this board, nor anywhere else.

Just because you don't believe in what someone else does, doesn't make you anymore right then them.

*side note, I'm not a religious person by any means I just find that ridiculing those who believe in something different is just as ineffective as "killing the hordes" when trying to get a point across.

[Blue Owl]

5. It's more like the War on Terra

You and I are 25 times more likely to be struck by lightning than be involved in a terrorist attack.

So where's the War on Lightning?

[walldude]

11. It was never meant to be successful... just endless.

This was the biggie they were looking for. With the cold war over they needed something to justify the insane Defense budget that no one ever talks about reducing. They needed a reason to keep building weapons. Eisenhower warned us about this.

[Greyhound]

12. Because you can't fight a war against a tactic? n/t

[WinkyDink]

13. It HAS failed, Kimosabe. One cannot eradicate murder, either. It is ALL for PROFITEERING.

Can we get real for ONCE?

[yurbud]

15. if it succeded, all Iraqis, Afghans, Iranians, Syrians, Venezuelans...

and anyone else who doesn't jump when the oil companies say to would be dead.

[jmowreader]

14. The War on Terror will fail because they're fighting it wrong

The military is NOT equipped to handle terrorists, because you don't fight terrorists like you fight regular soldiers.

The US is fighting terrorists as a war with soldiers, and we've still got terrorists.

In the 1980s, England, Germany and France fought terrorists with police work, and they ran out of terrorists long ago.

[snot]

16. Depends how you define its goal.

If the goal was to loot the middle classes and despoil our fundamental rights, it was a blazing success.

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17. The author of the OP follows-up...

It is only with mutual respect and understanding, the U.S. has a chance to persuade anyone to do anything. Beating them into submission doesn't work as we see in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Anti-American hatred is very strong and is to be expected against a foreign occupier that has killed, injured, tortured and destroyed everything in its path to exert its will

Isn't this how Americans would feel if Russia or China declared a "War on Terror" and crushed our soldiers, committed shock and awe on our people, killing them by the thousands including children, set up a Green Zone in Washington, DC from which its puppet government ruled, added a beehive of complex military checkpoints in our major cities, and destroyed our culture, our schools and our economy. And shut off our electricity all but 2 to 4 hours a day, meaning no clean water, no sewage treatment, often no lights, no TV, no computers, no air conditioning. In these conditions, disease is rampant which is unfortunate because many of their medical professionals have fled and medicines are in short supply and traded on the black market.

The "War on Terror" has actually already failed and the longer these wars go, the worse it will be for America.