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Panaconda (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:13 AM Original message |
Wall Street's attack on public education |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. When the only tool you have |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. These guys always claim to be innovative. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Is that damning or what? |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. It is totally damning. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. More: "And this isn't just some long-term project to privatize public education." |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Some adults just harbor a hatred of their old school teachers and find some kind of "vengeance" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. I think that's true, as well. nt |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. So we don't try to fix failing schools because we don't like some of the guys who fund some of the |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. No, the point is that we don't try to kill teacher unions and public schools |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I think a salary should be negotiated but once that is done teachers need to |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. "Oodles of free time"? Have you ever spoken to a teacher? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Chicago Public School teachers make an average of $69,900 per year |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. That's Chicago - not downstate IL or many Southern/rural areas. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Is it your assertion that teachers in Chicago make enough money? |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. As one of them, and a member of CTU, I'd say some people do and some don't. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. That is Chicago - wages are different in the major cities. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. The teachers in Hawaii do get paid professional salaries. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. I admit I don't know much about salaries in Hawaii - |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Are you under some delusion that "the job gets done" when every young human masters a |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. I think everyone should be capable of graduating from high school. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Everybody is. I once begged a student not to quit; he quit. There are reasons beyond "teacher |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Students should not be allowed to quit under the normal age of graduation. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. How would you stop them? |
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HelenWheels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Wake up! |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. No. We terminate *all* of these failing and cheating charter schools. (nt) |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Yes failing and cheating charter schools should be shut down. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. I certainly wouldn't trust any solution they think is wise. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. How about Obama's plans? Do you trust him? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Obama's plans for public ed? Hell no! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. The man was a college professor... Why is he not qualified to make suggestions on education? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Qualified? Maybe. Wrongheaded on his direction? Absolutely! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. What I see is people trying to improve a school system that has baked in inflexibility. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. That's the problem with making national policy based on limited experience. |
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Panaconda (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Doesn't it bother you |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. As far as I'm concerned Duncan is qualified for the job - |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. By-choice college is nothing like mandatory-until-age-16 public education. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. But he does understand teaching and grading and motivation. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. Welcome to the century of privitization ... nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I think you mean: Welcome to the Dickensian Past. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yes, isn't it funny how the more things "change" the more they stay the same - |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. We're seeing wealthy people who consider the term "Robber Baron" an accolade. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
23. Look, the wealthy come from REAL private schools. What THESE new for-profit entities are planned for |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Sounds like the KIPP charters to me. n/t |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I think they are all on that track. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. P.S. Mixed my numbers: "curriculum/it" or "curricula/they." :-) |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
46. kick |
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Reader Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R - n/t |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-23-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
49. kick |
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