The ACLU is a Great Organization!

[BrentWil]

Here is a quick test for you. Go to Google News . Type ACLU. Then find one case where they are not fighting for freedom and justice. They are truly a great organization and I am thankful everyday that they are around.

[FirstLight]

1. I just got involved today...

went there looking for help in setting up a non profit...and also signed up to help my regional chapter. ;)

thank god for these orgs, truly...and thank goodness they are big enough to make some differences.

[county worker]

2. Join them, it doesn't cost much and you get some pretty good stuff in the mail.

[Puregonzo1188]

3. The one group I will always give money to as long as I have something to give

is the ACLU. Amazing group.

Of course, I'm partially biased--I got a scholarship from them once.

[Hello_Kitty]

4. Here's one: They supported the plaintiffs in Citizens United.

They agreed with them that corporations are people and money is speech. That's not gonna do much for freedom and justice.

[BrentWil]

6. It is for freedom of speech...

They are very steadfast in their support of freedom of speech.

[Hello_Kitty]

7. And when they call me for donations I tell them to go get them from corporations.

[BrentWil]

8. And you are taking one thing you disagree with...

And using it against an organization that has fought for justice for 90 years.

[Gabi Hayes]

10. hey! genius! you might want to try reading your own OP before you take someone to ask for, uh....

answering it directly!

[BrentWil]

13. I have no problem with their direct answer...

I just don't have to agree with it.

[Hello_Kitty]

20. Yet you didn't explain how Citizens United, which the ACLU supported

Leads to the advancement of freedom and justice for living, breathing people.

[Hello_Kitty]

11. Citizens United is the Dred Scott of our time. The ACLU majorly fucked up on that one.

They accepted the premise that corporations are people and not the nonliving legal constructs that they are.

[Gabi Hayes]

12. and that'll be the difference if the pugs take either house this year. if/when it happens,

you can kiss whatever small sliver is left of our fragile democracy goodbye.

[BrentWil]

15. People form corporations. They are a means that people come together.

There are other kinds of corporations then Walmart, you know. Some don't sell things at all.

[Hello_Kitty]

19. GMAFB. The Walmarts and other big behemoths benefited the most from Citizens United

Millions of Walmart employees (who pretty much have no choice but to work there) are having the company "speak" for them in the form of now unchecked contributions to politicians who oppose unions, minimum wages, safety and environmental standards, etc.

[Gabi Hayes]

9. what a surprise. more right wing talking points. I was wondering how you

would be twisting this one

GOOD ONE!

please help our good friends, the corporations

they don't have enough access to free speech, do they?

they won't be happy until they drown out all other voices, so that their own are the only ones heard

[BrentWil]

14. The ACLU is a poster child for the right wing. NT

[Hello_Kitty]

21. The ACLU is not a poster child for the right or the left.

They advocate for free speech. In the case of Citizens United I feel they made a HUGE mistake because they bought the RW fiction that corporations are people and that money is speech. And I'm letting them know with my "speech" (money) that they fucked up.

[Radical Activist]

5. Yes, they are.

[mudplanet]

16. Seconded

Even when they defend the rights of cowardly assholes like Ollie North.

[BrentWil]

22. That is their point. THey defend anyone because they are standing on legal principles and not the

person. They are looking long term to a freer society.

[demmiblue]

17. Although I agree... you are still pretty transparent. n/t

[BrentWil]

18. In what way? NT

[Statistical]

23. How about anything involving the second amendment?

They should be called the American Civil Liberties (except that yucky one about guns) Union but I guess ACLETYOAGU doesn't have quite the same ring.

Wake me up when they respect the Bill of Rights .... the WHOLE Bill of Rights.

[BrentWil]

24. Here you go

At least one chapter does.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jul/11/only-nevada-aclu-opposes-gun-control/

“The Nevada ACLU respects the individual’s right to bear arms subject to constitutionally permissible regulations,” a statement on the organization’s Web site said. “The ACLU of Nevada will defend this right as it defends other constitutional rights.”

“This was the consensus,” said Allen Lichtenstein, general counsel for ACLU of Nevada. “There really wasn’t a lot of dissent.”

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25. The ACLU, the Lord ACLU has given unto you these ten amendments...

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Oy! Nine! Nine amendments for all to obey!



(Video reference for the uninitiated.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YX-gqRdK_8)...

(Reveling in the irony of placing the Hollywood Moses character as an anti-RKBA stooge).B-)