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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:47 AM
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Life is unfair if we choose to let it be so
I choose to fight for fairness....so you bet your ass I will be voting DEM in the upcoming election!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:50 AM
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1. "Life isn't fair." ...
I fucking hate that expression. It is a defeatist license for abdication of our responsibilities as citizens.

What it really means:
"Life isn't fair, so let's just give up and not do anything to fix that."
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:51 AM
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2. Exactly...
That statement was what prompted me to post this.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:26 AM
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10. Life isn't fair
But we can be just.

Peace is not the absence of violence, but the presence of justice.

We need not wage, war. We need to wage some justice.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:12 AM
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12. Except life really ISN'T fair.
Little kid dying of cancer while person who abused their body for 6 decades is still alive.
Someone who helps other people everyday killed by a drunk driver who was so selfish he couldn't care enough to find another way home.

The reality is life isn't fair.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:17 AM
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13. Yeah some things are out of our control....obviously...
so in that respect yes you may be correct....but that little kid may have never gotten cancer in the first place if we funded more cancer research than we did WARS!!!
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:23 PM
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21. There are different circumstances. 1. If you're in an unpleasant
situation, and you find that you could do something to change the situation,
by all means, do it. 2. If you're driving alone late at night far out in the
country-side where there is nobody around, and you get a flat tire, and it's
cold and raining to boot. Most people would throw a fit first. But whether
you throw a fit or remain calm and in a good mood, the tire still has to be
changed under unpleasant conditions.

It would be wiser to remain calm. The fit one throws consumes a great deal
of emotional energy, but it doesn't change anything. It certainly won't change
the tire. Could we learn to ACCEPT the situation and change the tire with calm
and grace? The tire still has to be changed, and we'd spare ourselves a good
deal of emotional unpleasantness and wasted energy. It's also common sense
to learn to accept WHAT IS (something that has already happened and can no
longer be changed)-- and with good grace.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:52 AM
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3. I choose to fight for fairness too -
but I agree with Emma Goldman on voting - "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal"

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:08 AM
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7. Emma Goldman was wrong.
Voting put the people in office who:

Created Child Labor Laws
Ended Slavery
Established Universal Suffrage
Created The Civil Rights Act
Created Social Security
Created Medicare

And many, many more things we now take for granted. Voting is still our most powerful tool in this representative republic. Emma Goldman was simply wrong about this.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:10 AM
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8. +1000000
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:21 AM
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15. +infinity
I can't believe any DUer would suggest that people not vote. I suppose Republicans would want that - but what purpose would it serve for progressive socialist to have Republicans in power?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:48 PM
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16. Emma Goldman isn't a deity. Just because she said something
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 12:51 PM by MineralMan
does not make what she said true. No doubt, she said some things that were true. This wasn't one of them. Every statement needs confirmation before being tossed around as if it's gospel. Anarchy is not much of a model for government, anyhow.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 03:53 PM
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17. Gotta admit I have never heard of her....and I don't think what she said is true.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:49 PM
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20. Emma was an anarchist and I don't agree with everything she said,
but I do agree on this quote. I wish it were not so.
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:56 AM
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4. Life and society
I think of it this way: Life is unfair enough, so society shouldn't have to be.

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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:57 AM
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5. Very nice.....
I may have to steal that thought!
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:02 AM
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11. Steal away, my friend
I'd be pleased!

:toast:
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:01 AM
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6. Wow I can't believe that this statement would get an unrec!!
Well....I guess I shouldn't be too surprised...Dems seem to have a hard time fighting.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:13 AM
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9. And another unrec....Christ I am an Independent trying to light a fire under the dems ass....
Where is the love?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:19 AM
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14. Unabashedly supporting Democrats here makes certain people angry for some reason
Not sure why, but some can't stand the idea that a poster would say something positive supporting Democrats without also including a sharp criticism as well. :shrug:
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 04:00 PM
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18. So
who gets to define this "fairness" you are willing to fight for?
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 04:16 PM
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19. I'll leave that up to reason and justice
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:43 AM
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22. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way
especially in a free country who's founders did not believe the desires of one should trump the individual rights of another. What is fair for one, is unfair to another and our intentional failure to acknowledge that simple fact has created this divide we now face as a country.

In order to fight for fairness, you must define what it is to you AND respect what it is to another. Otherwise, you are just pissing into the wind.
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