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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:50 PM
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I cannot believe this response to bullying;
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 09:53 PM by HEyHEY
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/10/13/ns-school-bullied-boy.html

"For now, the school is going to allow Connor to leave five minutes early, Eisenhauer said. This will give him a head start so he can get home before bullies reach him."

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?

I agree with one of those posters, give the kid pepper spray, if he has to use it and the school makes a fuss, tell them it's their fault, fuckers.

You know, I recall when I was a kid it wasn't uncommon for a parent with a bullied child in my school to ask a fellow parent and friend with an older child to ask the older kid to give the bullies a bit of a kickin' and a warning to not touch their victim again. I did it once for my mom's friend. Her son was being bullied so my mom asked me to find the two kids that did it and smack em around. I did and that kid was never bullied again. To this day that Mom will bring it up and thank me.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:52 PM
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1. I hope you smacked them hard.
I'm not nice and I am vengeful.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:54 PM
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3. Hard enough, threw one into the bushes.
Before people get upset I was only ten and they were eight.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:54 PM
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2. That poor kid.
I wish more kids would learn how to stand up on behalf of someone else. That's a skill that really needs to be taught. But yes, sometimes a bully smackdown helps, too.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:56 PM
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5. My brother in law was a bully beater
He grew up with a Mom constantly dating men who would beat him up. Instead of becoming a bully he went the other way. He HATED to see anyone being victimized and in high school gave numerous bullies a public ass-kicking for beating on some smaller type guy. As he grew up being beat on he was tough as nails.

I'm not kidding, eventually word got out and bullying at Port Moody High stopped until he graduated.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:02 PM
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7. Mr. Brickbat was bullied by a kid in sixth grade...
...Mr. Brickbat organized his friends and ambushed the bully after school one day. That was the end of that.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:03 PM
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9. It's all some of them understand.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:05 PM
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11. Yup. The funny thing is,
Mr. Brickbat grew up to be a union organizer. The bully? An NHL star.
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bbdad Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:17 AM
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20. I wonder if that NHL star now regrets (morally speaking)
that he ever was a bully. Knowing the bias of the sports media, if a sportswriter ever wrote a biography about this player, I doubt there would be any mention of the bullying.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:57 AM
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25. From what Mr. Brickbat has said,
it sounds like it was a very isolated incident...the way sixth-grade boys just suddenly and inexplicably hate each other. From what I know, the player grew up to be a pretty nice guy.
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bbdad Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:49 AM
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28. That's good news.
:)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:06 PM
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12. That's how we handled it in our school.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:54 PM
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4. Because predators are really turned off by the chase...
Damn
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:04 PM
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10. Right! Was this not a 'duh-stupid' choice or what!?
I wonder if they tied a steak to his back and made him wear a helmet with a huge bulleye in the center as well? I'm...shockfubeweber-gasted.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:02 PM
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6. My method for dealing with kids who bullied me in school was attempted strangulation
You know, once word got around, the bullying stopped happening to me.

It was then when I realized that bullies were actually cowards who have difficulty maintaining their bullying ways, pretty much, when faced with blind rage.

Although it would have been nice to have some other kids stand up for me, I have to say that the look on the bullies' faces, when other kids were pulling me away from their throats, was priceless indeed.



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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:02 PM
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8. The rest of the kids need to be taught that passively
standing by and watching the bully makes them guilty as well. They have a responsibility to stop it.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:20 PM
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13. The bullies need a taste
of their own medicine. Sic 'em!
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:21 PM
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14. And people wonder why shit like Columbine happens. [nt]
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 11:12 PM
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15. What the fuck?
I remember having to run home every day in 6th grade. I got tired of that routine and I happened to notice my teacher nearby as I was peeking out the door. She asked what was up and I pointed to the 2 waiting for me. She stormed out there and read them the riot act. Never had to run home again - what's so difficult about confronting the fucking bullies?
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 11:26 PM
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16. All of the media coverage on bullying is making me nervous
And it's bringing back alot of memories I hadn't even thought about in 20 years.
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bbdad Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 12:20 AM
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17. With their eyes on the clock: "On your mark ... get set ...
GO!" How pathetic!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:17 AM
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18. yeah, nice of them to make it more sporting.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:24 AM
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19. Schools seem to have abdicated responsibility for this and I know of some cases
where the schools - and teachers - were doing some of the bullying themselves. Don't want any kids who are outside of the mainstream, ya know...


mark
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:23 AM
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21. here comes the next teevee reality show
they'll probly name it, "Watch Johnny run" .

All these years I was under the impression our grandparents wanted better for us and look what happened. The world is fucking nutz.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:35 AM
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22. What else will they be doing?
Setting up cameras so everyone else can watch and laugh as the kid tries to run home and get inside the house and lock the doors within that 5 minutes?

If anything, that sounds like they are making a sick sort of game out of it so the bully can get even more sick thrills.

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:47 AM
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23. And they're off!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:06 AM
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24. I can.
SOP, especially for American adults and administrators. The less they have to deal with it, the better. If I had a nickel for every adult who told me "It was MY fault", "You ALLOW it to happen", or the ineffective and positively stupid "Stand up for yourself", I'd have gas money for a year.

See, here's a hint, kids. All the self-defense in the world isn't going to matter if you're 5'8", weigh 135, and your bully is the size of Brian Urlacher, faster than you and has even a hint of fighting skills. Bullies can see kicks to the nuts coming. They can see punches coming. They're fans of MMA and take martial arts just like you do. Senseis don't screen their students to see if they're teaching an asshole who just wants to use it offensively. They also rarely run alone. Sociopaths don't bully without having the backup or the fighting skills to do it.

Here's another hint. In the real world, you get in trouble for using a weapon. You get in trouble for defending yourself. The reason I let it continue is not because I was frightened of them. I was frightened of getting expelled from school for using bats, knives, bike chains or limb fractures on the fuckers like I wanted to . . . and I would have been expelled and my life would have been REALLY ruined.

I was bullied by teacher's kids and I still have PTSD from it. It doesn't go away, even now. When I go back to my shithole town I grew up in, my peripheral vision will go haywire. I get tense and the fists and muscles clench. I feel like running people over with the car. I go into stores with blunt objects; short of those, I clench car keys into all knuckles. That city should just be plowed and forgotten about. I can't forget what happened.

With all of these unfortunate incidents that are happening now, it's like I'm living this nightmare all over again. I stayed alive, but how many more will take their lives before police start treating this crap as assault and administrators put their foot down on perps ONLY?

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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:20 AM
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26. I am sorry you went through that, and I'm sorry you still have to go back and deal with it.
The focus on the victims, including the "It Gets Better" campaign, is good but not enough -- there needs to be a push on bystanders to call it the way they see it, and a spotlight on the bullies themselves, making it clear that THEY CANNOT ACT THAT WAY.

If we called it what it was -- assault, threats, intimidation -- maybe people would be more willing to act, instead of just figuring it's kids being kids.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:59 AM
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32. We need a "Let's Make It Better NOW" campaign
it gets better = you'll grow out of it. bfd.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 04:28 AM
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33. Can we say "epidemic" yet?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4576025#4576143

Problem is, as we all well know, it was ALWAYS an "epidemic" . . . a war on "weaker" kids, in an attempt to cull them from the herd.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:22 AM
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27. So he is being bullied because he is "different" so singling him out to leave early is going to help
I am sorry schools are clueless on this issue.

How about put the Bully in AFTER school detention.

30 minutes first time, hour the next time, two hours the time after that, then 4 hours. As long as the kid gets home by 8PM he can still eat and get to sleep.

Eventually bullies will find the consequences for their actions undesirable.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:51 AM
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29. Ridiculous. If they know the kid is being bullied, they know who
the bullies are.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:55 AM
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30. I was a victim of bullying only once
Throughout my school years I was never a target of bullying though my brother was and I administered more than one ass-beating because of that. Once though, in high school, some kid gave me some shit and I gave back and then he got in my face. Just about to attack me physically and a brother of one of my friends was going by. Big football player. He stepped right in and towered over my would be attacker and asked him why not take on a guy instead of a girl? The bully disappeared quicker than you can say "whatanasshole!" and I never had a problem again.

It's a shame more good kids don't stand up to bullies on behalf of the bullied. I'd also like to see some severe punishments for bullies.

Julie
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:59 AM
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31. Somebody needs a smack upside the head with a clue-by-four.
:mad:
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