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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:11 PM
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Idiot's club appealing to idiots, defending the indefensible, using Palin's made-up words
Remember the way Bush insisted on saying nooklear' to appeal to his party's idiots . . .?

from Think Progress: http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/10/gillespie-refudiated-chamber/

Gillespie Claims NY Times And Wash. Post Have ‘Refudiated’ ThinkProgress On Secret Corporate Spending

On Face the Nation this morning, host Bob Schieffer grilled both White House advisor David Axelrod and GOP strategist Ed Gillespie on the millions of dollars being secretly funneled by Wall Street and the oil industry to defeat Democratic candidates this November, and particularly the role of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Gillespie, along with Karl Rove, is the mastermind behind American Crossroads, a group tied to the Chamber which also funnels corporate money into attack ads. As first revealed by a ThinkProgress report, the Chamber solicits funds from foreign corporations — including state-owned oil companies — that go into the same general account that funds their $75 million electioneering campaign. Using a neologism coined by Sarah Palin, Gillespie argued that the Washington Post and the New York Times had “completely refudiated” the report:

GILLESPIE: The Washington Post and The New York Times both completely refudiated this charge of foreign money being funneled through the Chamber of Commerce into American campaigns. The charge of illegal criminal activity, that was based on a blog posting that the President of the United States repeated, that was put on a website that’s affiliated with Center for American Progress, a liberal nonprofit advocacy group that does not disclose its donors.

In fact, neither the Post nor the Times “refudiated” the ThinkProgress report. Both merely quoted Chamber of Commerce officials who only discussed the limited “AmCham” funds, only one of several avenues for foreign funding of the Chamber. Both articles recognized that there is no outside oversight of the Chamber’s money flow. “Money, however, is fungible,” the New York Times editorial board explained, “and it is impossible for an outsider to know whether the group is following its rules.” As the Washington Post’s Greg Sargent writes, “The Chamber still hasn’t addressed in any detail the core allegation against it.”


read more: http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/10/gillespie-refudiated-chamber/
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:36 PM
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1. the first rule of idiot's club is
don't talk stupid.

Refudiated is at least as good a word as fungible, which sounds like "able to produce a fungus".

So refudiated is a new word, one coined by mistake, by somebody caught between saying 'refuted' and 'repudiated' but as a combination word it is clearly stronger. When something is refutiated it is both refuted and repudiated.

And money is not that fungible when there are multiple spin-off organizations and multiple accounts. While the Chamber has not addressed the issue in detail, neither has the charge really be substantiated.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:45 PM
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2. you give Palin too much credit
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 01:46 PM by bigtree
. . . although, it's true that her pattern has been to say anything that sounds good . . . to her idiot followers.

As for 'substantiating' the White House charges . . . the issue here is unaccountable money being funneled into republican (and other) campaigns. The White House is correct in putting the onus on republicans - who have blocked campaign finance accountability and limits at every opportunity - to account for their funding which is mostly coming from several large sources this election season.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 02:28 PM
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4. Telling Palin not to talk stupid is like telling Limbaugh not to be fat.
Some things simply are what they are.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 02:19 PM
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3. If you isn't never hearn the word "refudiate," maybe you might should ought to get some edufication
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