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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:13 AM Original message |
3 years ago, an 8 yr old girl was raped |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. Just curious... what gender (and age group) were the three hold outs? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. He didn't say, and we didn't press him on it |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. That's terrible! |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. draw his penis ? the judge allowed that? wtf? |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
5. These trials are unfortunate. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Did you read this sentence in the OP? |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. That doesn't necessarily mean anything. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. or it could be they had forefront in mind... to many kids are coached to accuse raped |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I Thought |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Maybe because she's now 11, it made a difference |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. No words. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. I'm about ready to give up on humanity. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
12. after seeing a false accusation first hand to cover up parental abuse |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
13. You have to wonder how much evidence it would ever take |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The thing that gets me is this |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. In the meantime, what cost is she paying for all of this? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. most rapes are not reported. the ones reported, most are not prosecuted. those prosecuted, |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. yep.. if there's no video, people often do not believe little girls & women |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. yup. nt |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
15. no physical evidence? just her word against his? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I was not at the trial.. Don't know the details |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. damn, she didnt have video of it. he must be innocent. nt |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
18. If there is no physical evidence |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. there must have been evidence, or a DA would not have carried this forward for 3 years |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
25. Incorrect. The defendant was not proven guilty. So the presumption of his innocence remains. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. never said they found him guilty..the next trial will proceed..probably after the case |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I don't think presumption of innocence means an accused is not guilty. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. true that. he doesnt get to be innocent until the court says guilt.... in that sense. nt |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Not guilty is a verdict after trial. We are all presumed to be innocent. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. And yet, he can still be guilty but not proven so. nt |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Only if you consider guilt a matter of opinion or morals. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. A person who robs a store or commits a murder is guilty of robbery |
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CraftyGal (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. These cases are so difficult.... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. I could not be on that jury, I would emotionally snap. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. He said that 2 days into deliberations, one woman did quit |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. That's horrible. nt |
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