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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:02 PM
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Lanny Davis Trashes Rachel Maddow
Former Clinton Aide Lanny Davis Calls Rachel Maddow “Sanctimonious And Intolerant”

Apparently the Clinton claws are out for Rachel Maddow. Yesterday, on the syndicated radio show ‘America’s Morning News’ Lanny Davis, longtime supporter, and former White House counsel to President Bill Clinton, called Maddow “sanctimonious and intolerant” and part of the Dem’s “Tea Party side.” This in response to Clinton’s remarks the other day pushing back at Maddow’s criticism from last March when she called Clinton the “best Republican president the country has ever produced.” From Davis:

“But she’s sanctimonious and intolerant of anyone who disagrees with her. So, if it’s Bill Clinton, she calls him a Republican because he doesn’t meet Rachel Maddow’s test. So, the worst element of our party are people who call themselves liberal who are actually illiberal because they are intolerant of anyone who disagrees with them.”

Yes! This is exactly how I would describe Rachel Maddow, one of the few cable news hosts who has people of differing parties and views on her show for actually meaningful in-depth interviews that rarely, if ever, include raised voices. I think the accurate translation here might be, we are angry at Rachel Maddow for not toeing the Liberal line and being nice to Bill Clinton. Also, of all the cable hosts out there Rachel Maddow is the one you want to pick a fight with? Either Davis doesn’t actually watch TV or this is the latest evidence Maddow is becoming the top media voice on the left. You can listen to his remarks below.

http://www.mediaitehttp//www.mediaite.com/online/former-clinton-aide-lanny-davis-calls-rachel-maddow-sanctimonious-and-intolerant/.com/online/former-clinton-aide-lanny-davis-calls-rachel-maddow-sanctimonious-and-intolerant/

Oh boy...they really don't like liberals do they?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:04 PM
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1. hey Lanny, who's paying you?
Jane Hamsher asks him the question everyone should always ask Lanny Davis:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x414434
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:43 PM
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16. You got it. It's all about $ with Lanny Davis. Remember this Clinton ass kiss:
Lanny Davis
Posted: April 23, 2008 04:15 PM

The Top Ten List of Undisputed Facts Showing Barack Obama's Weakness in the General Election Against John McCain

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lanny-davis/the-top-ten-list-of-undis_b_98280.html

How'd that sage wisdom work out for Lanny?
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:04 PM
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2. Lanny Freaking Davis is accusing someone of being sanctimonious?
:rofl:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:05 PM
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3. i don't think she is sanctimonious. she is respectful of people's ideas
but doesn't just let people say things without backing them up. she does her homework and expects her guests to come prepared. it's called journalism. maybe lanny davis doesn't recognize it because it is so hard to come by these days.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:28 PM
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10. Exactly!!!!!!!!!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:06 PM
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4. He's really going to hate Robert Scheer then.......
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:31 PM
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11. Sadly, much of what happened during and after Bush was thanks to changes that Clinton ok'd
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 01:34 PM by BrklynLiberal
The elimination of Equal time-I think that was under Clinton-, the enhancement of media conglomeration, the weakening of banking restrictions, NAFTA.

It just took some time for the effects to be felt..like a slow acting time-bomb... a "mole" so-to-speak. Bush was the perfect successor to the changes that were made. He ensured that they would have the worst possible effect on the middle class.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:09 PM
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5. wish that dirtbag would shut his little rodent yap
yes, I dislike him that much.

*spit
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:13 PM
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6. Wait a sec. Lanny Davis is relevant in today's climate in *what* way?
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:18 PM
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7. So Clinton who thinks Rachel should not have equal rights
because of her minority status calls her, of all things, intolerant? I'm sorry Lanny, and all of you right wing pro-discrimination atavists, you are fundamentally intolerant and you carry that bigotry forward into law and policy that enshrines discrimination.
The bigots always like to play this shit. "They are the real bigots, because they will not tolerate our discrimination against them."
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:35 PM
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13. WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:25 PM
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8. Rachel should just ignore Lanny. Most people do.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:27 PM
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9. my my my...How sad and sanctimoniously intolerant of Mr Davis.
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 01:28 PM by BrklynLiberal
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:39 PM
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14. I like her....don't always agree with her...but her show is adult
no screaming....she always knows the topic and asks questions we want answered....

Lanny....go away....I like/liked Bill but NAFTA and deregulation of financial rules have tarnished my opinion of him.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:11 PM
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24. The after effects of the Clinton years do tinge the "color" of the memories...
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 02:11 PM by BrklynLiberal
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:32 PM
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12. Well it's a good thing I have never watched that show.
I would never waste my time watching someone who calls President Clinton a Republican.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:40 PM
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15. So you don't listen to Thom Hartmann, either, then?
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 01:40 PM by Kalyke
Considering he says the same thing and has the facts on his side to prove how very Republican Clinton could be.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:51 PM
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17. Nope.
I stopped watching cable news around 2004. Forget the talking heads, I get my information and commentary on the internet.

It wasn't Republican policies that ushered in the greatest economic boom in US history, brought unemployment to historic lows, balanced the federal budget et al. Unless that is the absurd argument?
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:54 PM
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18. Thom Hartmann is on the radio - not cable "news."
He is a progressive talk show host - but with more facts and less hyperbole than what comes out of the right side of the dial.

And Rachel wasn't saying that everything Clinton did was to the right - just that many things he did were.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:22 PM
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27. Thom is now on two cable channels -- FreeSpeechTV and Link.
Which is great for us non-radio types. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:25 PM
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28. It was absolutely Republican policies that created the bubble
whose bursting we're dealing with now, not to mention, the state of utter impunity with which the financial sector is shifting wealth upward on all our backs. But don't watch Thom Hartmann. You'd be in terrible danger of learning something.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:41 AM
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31. I don't recall her calling him a republican but there are
many policies he put forth that any republican would have been proud to. At the time he may not have foreseen the consequences and they seemed like good ideas to him. Repealing the Glass-Steagall Act was something he seemed to think would be very good for banks and the economy in general. His financial team really pushed it, along with Dodd and Schumer, not just republicans.
But those who wrote and passed the act back in 33 look a lot wiser than those who repealed it some 66 years later.

NAFTA might have seemed like it would expand trade. Ooops.
They seemed to think that the Telecommunications Act of 1996 would benefit consumers... instead it led to extreme consolidation with all of those consequences of few certain groups owning much of the media...

Those bills are all ones republican presidents would have been proud to sign, in fact had attempted themselves. There were more he got through that republicans had not been able to. For instance republicans hated the Delaney Clause, a 1958 amendment to an older food bill. It barred the use in food of any chemical additive found to induce cancer in man or found in testing to cause cancer to animals.
Pesticides were removed from the Delaney Clause by an amendment in the Food Quality Protection Act of 1996. Pesticide residue has since been allowed in food. (Actually the ERA decided to allow some in 1988 but that was overturned by the court)

Saying all of this, I like Bill Clinton. That doesn't mean I don't regret a lot of the bills he passed. They were only a part of things that came before and after that were part of the problem but they were certainly a part.

I talk a lot about the good Clinton economy too, especially when talking to republicans. If a republican had been in office during Internet bubble their economy would have looked pretty good too... except they'd probably have given bigger tax cuts to the rich and so on.

I like Obama too but could come up with a list of republican pleasing things about his administration too (such as his economic team...)
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:57 PM
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20. DADT. DOMA. NAFTA.
Welfare "reform".
And that's just off the top of my head.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:12 PM
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25. Lots of time bombs in there....
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 09:38 AM
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33. NAFTA and welfare "reform" are legit criticisms
DADT and DOMA are not, especially DADT.

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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 09:18 AM
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32. Yes, just dismiss the argument
before hearing it. I thought liberals were open-minded. Amazing how some will just reflexively defend politicians no matter what they do.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:55 PM
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19. The Vice President Seemed to Like Her
a lot!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:03 PM
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23. Let's see how he reacts to her follow-up.
She has positioned herself as a voice for the boots on the ground. She amplifies THEIR issues well.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:59 PM
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21. I like Lanny
Nobody can unite DU like Lanny!!

:rofl:
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:59 PM
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22. Rachel is Sanctimonious And Intolerant?
Lanny Davis is an ass and should get out of the public eye(sore).
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:18 PM
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26. There's A Rachel-Trashing Thread In The DU Guns Forum Right Now.

228 posts, currently. It seems that Ms. Maddow is insufficiently worshipful of the Second Amendment, in the eyes of our resident Gun Enthusiasts.......
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 03:18 PM
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29. That is OLD.
Bill Clinton...."Best Republican President EVER!"
I 1st heard that sometime in the mid-90s.
I'm sure Lanny & Bill have heard it often.
But the Old Dog doesn't have to worry.
If Obama's Deficit Reduction Committee is successful, he will soon be the 2nd Best Republican President ever.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 03:58 PM
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30. "we are angry at Rachel Maddow for not toeing the Liberal line and being nice to Bill Clinton"
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 04:01 PM by dflprincess
:wtf:

The more accurate translation is "We (we being Lanny Davis, etal) are angry at Rachel Maddow for not kissing Clinton ass."

The Democratic wing of the party has never been especially impressed with Clinton's DLC/Republican side of the party - which is why they're trying to marginalize those on the left (whose positions were once main stream Democratic thought).

Rachel is not the one who is "intolerant of anyone who disagrees".





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