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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:41 AM
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If Senate Dems fall below 55, wouldn't it be a good time to
kick lieberman to the curb? Do they really need him that much?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:43 AM
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1. I'd agree on that point.
Tactically, we'd be better off with him as a Republican so we can get a Democrat to run against him next time around. And we'd be little worse the wear for his vote. Still, there are going to be issues where we're one vote short, and not having Lieberman to at least whip a little bit would hurt. I can understand why we'd keep him in this situation, but I'd personally go the other way.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:44 AM
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2. Don't you think Joe would switch caucuses?
I don't think he'd be around to kick out.
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:45 AM
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3. I think Joe would prefer to stay in the majority
I don't think that should be his choice.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:46 AM
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4. The Horror Number Would Be 50...
I'm sure hoping no matter how things turn out there will be a strong challenge to Harry Reid...the man who took the Democratic majority and squandered it more than any other person. He rolled over not only to keeping Lieberman around but also agreed to the draconian 60-vote rule that has helped water down any legislation this administration has tried to move and given the GOOP more power they they either earned or deserve.

A lot will depend on what the Democratic caucus looks like after the election. If the party takes big hits you could see a lot of changes but I still see them sticking with "he votes with us more than against us" bullshit still being used to placate Droopy's ego.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:49 AM
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5. #1. Yes and # 2. No nt
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:50 AM
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6. Does it matter?
If the Senate Democrats (assuming they keep the majority) don't institute filibuster reform, well ... the next two years will make the last two years look like a picnic.

Frankly, after all we've witnessed in the U.S. Senate, if the Democrats cannot change the current anti-democratic, tyranny-of-the-minority filibuster rule at the beginning of the new Congress, then to heck with them ... and Mr. Lieberman, no matter where he caucuses.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:54 AM
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7. If they haven't done it by now, they won't do it. Our hope to get rid of him is
to raise money when it's his time and kick him out of office.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:04 AM
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8. Why not boot out Nelson, McCaskill, and other moderates so that Republicans can have a majority?
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:11 AM
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9. They aren't as annoying as lieberman
Being Democrats from Nebraska and Missouri respectively, Nelson and McCaskill have some excuse for their "moderation." Lieberman has none. And he'll be defeated in '12 anyway.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:14 AM
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10. oh no we might get stuck with race to the top in that case & Arne duncan! nt
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