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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:21 AM
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Scientists In Missouri Determine When Life Begins
BWAAAAHAHAHAHHA!


Life Begins At Conception, Says New Mo. Law
First Posted: 09-15-10 01:00 AM | Updated: 09-15-10 01:00 AM
By Tim Townsend
Religion News Service

(RNS) It's a question that has perplexed philosophers, theologians and scientists for thousands of years.

Pythagorean Greeks, early Christian church fathers, Talmudic rabbis, Sunni and Shia scholars, Hindu Brahmin and modern bioethicists have grappled with the fundamental, ultimately unknowable, mystery: At what point in our biological development are we infused with a soul?

At what point do we become human?

Missouri lawmakers have declared their answer. By withholding both his signature and his veto, Democratic Gov. Jay Nixon signaled that he agreed and recently allowed the legislative answer to become state law.

"The life of each human being begins at conception," according to Senate Bill 793, which adds new regulations to the state's 24-hour informed consent law for abortions. "Abortion will terminate the life of a separate, unique, living
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:27 AM
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1. At conception, you don't even have a nervous system
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 05:28 AM by ck4829
How could a fetus possibly be unique or even sentient at conception?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:29 AM
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2. here is the most troubling statement in that article - to me
"State Sen. Jim Lembke, a Republican and one of the bill's sponsors, said the language on the new brochures "is not a religious statement. It's a scientific statement.""

they (Mo legislators) believe this is science.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:31 AM
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3. Lord have mercy!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:35 AM
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4. this ruling could make a bunch of fertility clinics into a slew of murderers ...
too bad the Repugs/Conservatives aren't too concerned about those "fetuses" ...
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:56 AM
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5. So all those women with IUDs are (were) murderers?
My understanding is that IUDs don't prevent fertilization, just implantation.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:58 AM
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7. And most women have several spontaneous "abortions" during their lives
before they even knew they were pregnant..
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:57 AM
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6. Thank Goodness for the Missouri Legislature
Look at all the time they have saved the members of the scientific community by their action.

No more worrying about this issue, the Missouri Legislature has done the job for you, now move on to some other subject. :sarcasm:
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:11 AM
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8. I'll humor the argument (for a moment)... that this is the determination
of a human life, got it. Problem? The inherent assumption that such human life is good, useful, innocent and sacred at all costs...

So.... that is measured (and determined - how, exactly?). Those on death row (who are happily executed by pro-life -but- pro-death penalty advocates... forgive me but this gives me a brain cramp akin to an icepick going through my sense of logic and reason)...

Therefore, "life", in and of itself - is valuable ONLY if it is good, right? If it is despicable - pshaw - get rid of it. Since there is no way to determine whether this sacred few cells multiplying after unprotected sex, intentional, artificial, by rape, in a drunken black out, for financial gain or just opportunity/proximity/horniness and seemed like a good idea at the time..... will develop into decency or serial cannibalism,

I have to ask these lawmakers: How can you square this regulation with your state's having the death penalty? So life is valuable based on moral measure? Or - it is universally valuable (in which case a few cells are more valuable than a living breathing human - because you think he/she is "bad") Is life sacred, or isn't it? If it's sacred/valued based on a moral, ethical set of rules, laws and values, then please describe your determination of this measurement at the moment of conception.

If such determination is irrelevant, then stop terminating the lives of separate, unique, living humans - good, bad or other.

Hello? Sheesh... I don't understand.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:28 AM
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9. Civil rights for zygotes nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:24 AM
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10. "Scentists"...
Missouri lawmakers have declared their answer.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:32 AM
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11. So does that mean their god hates humans since over 60% of all fertilized
human eggs lead to a fetus?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:50 AM
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12. Yeah? Well John Lennon said "Life begins at 40". Who are ya gonna believe?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:53 AM
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13. And ends when you are born.
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