Here's to the Tea Party for Taking Over Their Party.

[David Zephyr]

The inmates have taken over their asylum.

And I'd rather have our candidates run against tea-baggers than mainstream, button-down, country club, corporate Republicans. It enhances our candidates chances.

And even if our Democrats lose some seats to tea-baggers, well I see good in even that defeat because...

Whether it is zealous nationalism, neo-nazism, rabid homophobia, blatant racism, inflammatory xenophobia and anti-environmentalism, the tea-baggers make no pretense of who they are which is the true core of the Republican Party. The Tea-Baggers have been played like violins for years by the country-club Republicans and now they will, even if they win some elections, make mainstream Republicans squirm.

And more importantly, even big corporations will be uncomfortable working with these crazies. I expect to see more corporate cash moving to the Democrats because business likes stability and they hate radicalism and unpredictability and ideologues.

The bags of tea that wound up being tossed out of the ship in this Tea Party won't be incumbent Democrats, but incumbent Republicans.

Tonight I love them. They are the final elixir condensed down to the ultimate reduction of what the Republican Party is.

As someone said a few years back, the Republican River is running low and when it does people can see how ugly it is down on the river bottom.

Tonight the Republican River got even lower.

I think our chances in November, in spite of the polls, in spite of some mis-steps by Obama and the Democrats, are really surged.

If the Democratic Party was a stock, I'd buy now because the expectations are lower than what the reality will be in November.

The Tea Party will be a good thing for Democrats in the end.

[kentuck]

1. Buy !

1000 shares!

Agree. :-)

[David Zephyr]

3. +1

1,000 shares!

[babylonsister]

2. Thanks. You are a gem, and

I agree with you. I'd buy now, too, because the gop is batshit crazy, and who can negotiate the baggers vs. the rethugs? Such a mess!

:loveya:

[David Zephyr]

4. That means a lot to me coming from you, babylonsister.

We are united now all against the common enemy: the Republican Party. A gem? Shucks. :)

[peace frog]

5. Good news for Dems

The Great Teabag Takeover has mainstream GOPers shitting bricks. And hopefully, losing elections for their party.

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[David Zephyr]

7. Well, welcome to the DU regardless of the fact that we disagree.

I was being kind to the Tea Baggers. Sweeping generalization and sweeping indictment. I stand guilty as charged.

[Skittles]

9. WTF

do not encourage trolls

[David Zephyr]

13. Well, it was his very first post here.

I was honored a troll chose my thread to un-lurk, if only for a brief moment. :)

I almost made a snide remark, but it was his Post #1 and, well, I just didn't pull out the shotgun. But you are right. They should not be encouraged, Skittles.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

15. Reached a grand total of 4.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=262628

[Skittles]

8. LOLOL

"unhappy with Washington"? Why is that those fucking teabaggers were silent when bush was wiping his ass with the Constitution and sending America off an economic cliff???? Teabaggers simply took over the job of embarrassing America when their hero bush left office - they suck beyond BELIEF. And who do you think you're kidding with this "WE" shit????

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

12. You're right.

"Tea Party participants shouldn't be labeled zealous nationalists, neo-nazism, rabid homophobes, blatant racists, inflammatory xenophobes and anti-environmentalists as a group."

Correct. Each Tea Party participant Teabagger should be labeled a zealous nationalist, neo-nazi, rabid homophobe, blatant racist, inflammatory xenophobe and anti-environmentalist individually.

[David Zephyr]

14. LOL.

How true. Truth in labeling and truth in advertising.

[tavalon]

21. And a sexual deviant

Though many find teabagging a fun part of their repertoire, I'm fairly sure it isn't in The Vanilla Guide to Sex.

[Lugnut]

10. It's their monster.

I say, tough shit. :shrug:

[pezDispenser]

11. be careful what you wish for

I agree, there are going to be some dem losses turned wins with some tea-bagger wins. And there will be some tea-baggers that the GOP has to govern with when all is said an done.

This may cause the center right money/votes move to the democratic party. People who label themselves 'socially liberal / fiscally conservative' and typically pull the R lever. What we need now is leadership. Leadership that will fold the new dems into the mix with the moderates and progressives peacefully. Leadership that the GOP lacked.

[grantcart]

16. And if you know Republican Party history like I know it you will give credit to where it is due

George Bush and John McCain.


When there is no clear leader in the Republican Party the economic/defense conservatives and the social/religious conservatives fight for control.

This goes back a long time but the fight with Rockfeller/Goldwater was the clearest example.

Democrats fight all of the time but we make up.

Republicans truely hate each other (in my teens I worked in Republican politics.)

As long as there is a clear leader then everyone will be quiet. If the leadership is open then they will fight like hell because they see it as control over the next few decades.

When George Bush picked Cheney he ensured that 2008 would be a bloody fight for the nomination, and many wounds still existed. Because Cheney could not run for President the ambiguity meant that from 2004 the divisions would harden. Romney/Huckelbee hatred is the reflection of the Rockfeller/Goldwater fight. Huckelbee stayed in the race after it was lost simply to get more delegates than Romney and to be able to undermine Romney's ability to claim party leadership.

When McCain picked Palin, who obviously couldn't be the leader of the party, he compounded Bush's error and guaranteed another 8 years of infighting. The religious/social right has repackaged themselves as a grass roots Tea Party but no one is fooled. They are going around and taking out the last remnants of the Rockfeller wing of the Republican Party and even conservatives who are not completely batshit crazy.

The fight for the Republican Party Presidential nomination in 2012 will be the most bloody yet. They will be willing to lose the election in order to get control for 2016 when they have a reasonable chance to win the Presidency. The strategists behind this know that the electoral college makes it almost impossible for a popular Democratic incumbant President to be defeated. They are unlikely to improve on any of the big states that they lost in 2008 and the President always has a tremendous media advantage.


So once again thanks again George Bush and John McCain for this latest Republican civil war.

[anAustralianobserver]

19. Very interesting analysis.

It fits in with Glenn Beck's televangelist tack. I wonder if Pawlenty could be supported by both sides.

[David Zephyr]

25. Fascinating perspective.

It's the country club Republicans vs their crazy minions now. 2012 will be a circus with even John Bolton now chiming in.

I enjoyed reading your perspective. Democrats might learn from this ourselves and ask would Biden be the best choice for Obama in 2012 to run with or would Hillary be better as to preventing a food fight in 2016? Just wondering.

McCain's picking Palin, as you said, really tore this thing apart. But I'd never considered Huckabee being a stalker against Romney for McCain long after he couldn't win anymore. It certainly is plausible. McCain owes everything to Charlie Crist who he used and then tossed to the wolves. McCain is all about McCain.

[grantcart]

29. I believe that Democrats are different

We don't like our leaders appointed. When they take over a franchise they don't really rally the country.

Humphrey - fail

Mondale - fail

and I believe that if Gore had fought for the nomination he would have been a much better candidate.


We have to fight it out but IMHO there is more genuine affection between the different groups so that after a good fight we can get back together.

The real story of Obama/Clinton was that after a brutal fight an upstart was able to take on the Democratic heirarchy win and then 95% were able to get together and make up.

Last night CNN reported that 44% of Castle supporters will not vote for O'Donnell.

There is less bad blood between Nader and Democrat supporters than there are between factions of the Republican Party. They can only function with a leader in place.

If the Republicans do not resolve the leadership crises in the party by 2012 it is very possible that you will see formations of another conservative party in rural areas to start 'taking back America'.


I would be happy to see SOS Clinton run for President. She should be viewed as a seperate entity from her husband.

It will be interesting to see if there is another generation of Democratic leaders tat would fight it out for leadership.

We fight, we make up, we continue on.

Republicans keep track and get even.

In my teenage years I worked for Dan Evans, Slade Gorton, Lud Kramer (Wn State Governor, Attny General and SOS). In Wn State they were more liberal than the 'Scoop' Jackson machine.

The only one that is still around from that group is Sam Reed. His parents lived a few blocks from my house and I practically lived over there during the election season.

Sam is now SOS and during the last Gubenatorial election that was decided by a couple dozen votes he refused to break the rules for the Republicans and certified the Democrat the winner.

[HEyHEY]

17. Yeah, they've basically exposed the "base" of the party to the moderates now

Thanks guys!

[Hannah Bell]

18. I don't welcome it. Because it means if the democrats don't deliver, the country gets

taken over by the far-right, theocratic, nazi-like crazies.

[tavalon]

20. I hope we gain seats in the House and even in the Senate

Especially in the Senate. Wanna know why? They've spent the last two years telling us that they didn't have enough of a majority to get much of anything done when the Republicans were quite capable of getting heinous things accomplished with smaller majorities. Hell, they're still managing to be pretty damn strong as a minority party.

If we get supermajorities, it's going to be like watching the contortionists from Cirque Du Soleil. "Our side" has no intention of doing anything for anyone but the moneyed elite and the corporations, who really run this country, but "our side" has this compulsion to try to get us to believe they really intend to, if only........

I'm voting straight Democratic ticket just to spite them. Hell, I might even canvass independents (undecideds) on just that idea.

Pass the fucking popcorn!

[southmost]

22. +1!

Most Dems are already master triangulating contortionists.

Destroying the current establishment media and conventional wisdom beltway meme (of lack of liberal enthusiasm) has become my main motivation for volunteering and voting straight Dem this election cycle.

Plus, I just loath repukes.

[tavalon]

32. I certainly hate what they've become

But I actually remember a time when, while I disagreed with their point of view, I could see that many of them had convictions, that while different from my own, were honorable enough. These days, those ones have run screaming from the party. The lunatics are running that asylum, now.

[Erose999]

23. More "corporate cash" going to the Dems is not a good thing though... it implies patronage.

Just look at BP and all the scummy GOOP politicians who defended them. Do WE really want to be a part of that?

[FirstTimeVoterAt37]

24. We MUST keep cameras in their faces

If we do, I really think November is going to be sweeeeeeeet.

[lapislzi]

26. Take. Nothing. For. Granted.

Just because the Crazy is strong in them, it's no reason to rest on our laurels. In fact, that's exactly the reason why we mustn't. If we don't mobilize the Disgusted wing of our own party, they (the douche baggers) will surf their momentum right to Capitol Hill.

Every one of us must vote, and make sure all of our Dem/Indy friends vote, too. We have to treat this election as if we're in deep trouble, because we will be if we don't.

[peace frog]

28. We have no laurels to rest on, but you're right anyway

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

[Ignis]

27. K&R

[Jack Rabbit]

30. Let's hear it for the Tea Partiers and their vision of America's future

Follow the Leader.

Please click here.

[Initech]

31. It's like we're living the ending of T2.

The GOP has been frozen, pushed down, shattered, and has now re-emerged as the scarier tea party.